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  • M Offline
    medeek
    last edited by 21 Feb 2018, 14:12

    I like the idea of saved config files or templates, I will give this some more thought.

    Nathaniel P. Wilkerson PE
    Medeek Engineering Inc
    design.medeek.com

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      medeek
      last edited by 26 Feb 2018, 16:47

      Making some good progress on the "edit" function. I will initially start with the common trusses and then once I am satisfied that those trusses are running stable I will begin to make this feature available for all other truss, rafter and floor assemblies.

      I'm a little bogged down with the advanced options (there are too many) but it is just a matter of putting in the time and slogging through all of the data entry and HTML and javascript. Probably by the end of the week I should have something ready to go and I will roll a release so everyone can begin testing it.

      Nathaniel P. Wilkerson PE
      Medeek Engineering Inc
      design.medeek.com

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        medeek
        last edited by 26 Feb 2018, 20:07

        Has anyone had much experience with SIP walls? I've been looking at the product offering of Eco Panel:

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        Building a new home? Eco-Panels offers modular building panels that are stronger & safer than stud frame construction for about the same price.

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        and I am fairly curious about this product.

        Nathaniel P. Wilkerson PE
        Medeek Engineering Inc
        design.medeek.com

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          KrisM
          last edited by 27 Feb 2018, 01:22

          I'm quite familiar with SIPs. They definitely have their pluses and minuses. They certainly aren't cheap but can be quite effective if installed properly. The key here is that contrary to the suggestion from Eco Panels that low priced labour can erect their product, there better be someone on site who really knows what they are doing. I have seen some bad installs (not Eco Panel's products) and the long term implications are quite serious. While I have been a promoter of SIPs in the past, I think there are easier and cheaper ways to get good R values.

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            medeek
            last edited by 2 Mar 2018, 14:32

            Version 2.1.6 - 03.02.2018

            • Added Soffit Cut within Advanced Options for Hip Rafter Roofs.

            http://design.medeek.com/resources/images/truss_su348_800.jpg

            Nathaniel P. Wilkerson PE
            Medeek Engineering Inc
            design.medeek.com

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              medeek
              last edited by 3 Mar 2018, 22:55

              Version 2.1.6b - 03.02.2018

              • Added Soffit Cut within Advanced Options for all Shed type Rafter Roofs.
              • Added gutters for all Shed type Rafter Roofs.

              http://design.medeek.com/resources/images/truss_su349_800.jpg

              Nathaniel P. Wilkerson PE
              Medeek Engineering Inc
              design.medeek.com

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                medeek
                last edited by 5 Mar 2018, 16:21

                The edit feature is slowly coming to fruition. I've added so many advanced options to the common truss type that it is quite an ordeal to even put together the HTML form that fully encompasses all of this information and does it in an organized and neat manner. There is a possibility of 72 unique (user entered) parameters for a common truss assembly. Some of these are dependent on others, its an interesting web of dependencies (spaghetti) that must be taken into account for the edit feature to work properly. I've probably got another week just in debugging before I am ready to release the first version of this feature.

                Nathaniel P. Wilkerson PE
                Medeek Engineering Inc
                design.medeek.com

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                  pbacot
                  last edited by 5 Mar 2018, 17:36

                  Models look high quality. I hope you have ability for multiple Presets so that a type of roof that users use all the time can be saved.

                  MacOSX MojaveSketchUp Pro v19 Twilight v2 Thea v3 PowerCADD

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                    medeek
                    last edited by 5 Mar 2018, 18:14

                    A number of presets can be set by the user in the global settings however I have not fully implemented a "store" function that will take an entire roof configuration and store it as a preset roof assembly. This may be another feature that I add.

                    Nathaniel P. Wilkerson PE
                    Medeek Engineering Inc
                    design.medeek.com

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                      facer
                      last edited by 6 Mar 2018, 16:56

                      Medeek,
                      ..."take an entire roof configuration and store it as a preset roof assembly."

                      I think this will be very popular, looking forward to this function! 👍

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                        medeek
                        last edited by 7 Mar 2018, 07:00

                        Version 2.1.7 - 03.06.2018

                        • Enabled the "Edit Truss Assembly" function for all common roof trusses (imperial units only).

                        To edit a roof truss assembly just right click on the assembly and select the "Edit Truss Assembly" option.

                        Note, that this function is only available for common trusses with imperial units (template). Metric will be next.

                        It seems to be working fairly robustly but I'm sure there will be some minor bugs that pop up considering the complexity of the code and the sheer numbers of variables that I am working with.

                        Please report any errors by using the ruby console to record the error and email it to me.

                        Once this feature has been out for a while and I know it is running fairly stable I will then work on updating all rafter and truss assemblies so that the user can edit them. I can already see that this will be a very useful upgrade to the plugin.

                        Nathaniel P. Wilkerson PE
                        Medeek Engineering Inc
                        design.medeek.com

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                          medeek
                          last edited by 7 Mar 2018, 23:21

                          Realize that the entire roof assembly is being redrawn from scratch so any manual customization will disappear. It is actually quite a bit faster than I thought it might be so I’m fairly happy with that.

                          I did notice that when you initially create a truss assembly without any advanced options and then enable advanced options in the edit panel it does not auto populate the various advanced option fields, I think this could use some attention.

                          Below is a screenshot of the edit panel:

                          http://design.medeek.com/resources/images/truss_su350_800.jpg

                          Nathaniel P. Wilkerson PE
                          Medeek Engineering Inc
                          design.medeek.com

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                            medeek
                            last edited by 11 Mar 2018, 04:15

                            Version 2.1.7b - 03.10.2018

                            • Enabled the "Edit Truss Assembly" function for all common roof trusses (metric units).

                            Nathaniel P. Wilkerson PE
                            Medeek Engineering Inc
                            design.medeek.com

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                              medeek
                              last edited by 11 Mar 2018, 05:24

                              Tutorial 7, Edit Function and some changes to the global settings:

                              Nathaniel P. Wilkerson PE
                              Medeek Engineering Inc
                              design.medeek.com

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                                medeek
                                last edited by 11 Mar 2018, 18:10

                                Version 2.1.7c - 03.11.2018

                                • Added ceiling gypsum and ceiling battens to cathedral trusses.

                                http://design.medeek.com/resources/images/truss_su351_800.jpg

                                http://design.medeek.com/resources/images/truss_su352_800.jpg

                                View model here:

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                                3D Warehouse is a website of searchable, pre-made 3D models that works seamlessly with SketchUp.

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                                Nathaniel P. Wilkerson PE
                                Medeek Engineering Inc
                                design.medeek.com

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                                  juju
                                  last edited by 11 Mar 2018, 18:58

                                  @medeek said:

                                  Version 2.1.7c - 03.11.2018

                                  Not on your home website yet?

                                  Save the Earth, it's the only planet with chocolate.

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                                    medeek
                                    last edited by 11 Mar 2018, 19:31

                                    Should be up now.

                                    Nathaniel P. Wilkerson PE
                                    Medeek Engineering Inc
                                    design.medeek.com

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                                      medeek
                                      last edited by 12 Mar 2018, 03:57

                                      I've been giving some thought to framed openings in floors, see image below:

                                      http://design.medeek.com/resources/images/truss_su353_800.jpg

                                      Generally, at least from what I've seen most holes in floors are either rectangular, L-shaped or U-shaped, but I guess any outline is possible.

                                      What I've shown in the image above is LSL or LVL framing out the opening however the actual framing might be significantly different depending on what is supporting the floor below.

                                      In some cases the rectangular opening might not be supported by bearing walls from below, in that case the two LSL boards running parallel to the joists would probably be larger beams and the headers would be hangered from these beams and would also probably be more substantial.

                                      The point is how to make this feature flexible enough to accommodate most framed openings but at the same time keeping it as simple as possible so the user is not overwhelmed with parameters.

                                      View model here:

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                                      3D Warehouse

                                      3D Warehouse is a website of searchable, pre-made 3D models that works seamlessly with SketchUp.

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                                      Any ideas would be greatly appreciated.

                                      P.S. I am also going to make this feature editable so that the actual hole can be altered after the fact. This should be an interesting programming challenge.

                                      Nathaniel P. Wilkerson PE
                                      Medeek Engineering Inc
                                      design.medeek.com

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                                        medeek
                                        last edited by 12 Mar 2018, 15:25

                                        Alternatively that same opening could be framed as below:

                                        framed_opening2.jpg

                                        For the size of the opening one would probably use some PSL Beams rather than a couple of I-Joists but the concept is the same, compare with the previous example where the opening would probably be supported from below by bearing walls.

                                        Nathaniel P. Wilkerson PE
                                        Medeek Engineering Inc
                                        design.medeek.com

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                                          medeek
                                          last edited by 12 Mar 2018, 18:09

                                          Here is an example of a L-shaped opening in a floor to allow for a stairway.

                                          https://cdn.instructables.com/FXK/LIS1/ITXTNPWV/FXKLIS1ITXTNPWV.LARGE.jpg

                                          Probably not the best example but I think it helps get the idea across.

                                          Note the bearing walls supporting perimeter of the opening.

                                          Nathaniel P. Wilkerson PE
                                          Medeek Engineering Inc
                                          design.medeek.com

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