SketchUp 2018
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@panixia said:
So do you think that writing some decent mapping tools instead of the useless rectangle was impossible.
I did neither said nor meant this but have referenced to comparing the effort for developing a small improvement of an exiting tool with a complete new functionality by 'derei':
@derei said:
Another questionable improvement would be rectangle draw... which whilst "it may" have its usefulness, the impact of having a fancy modifier when drawing a rectangle is rather small, compared with a better uv-mapping, to say so.
@panixia said:
Meanwhile there are tons of plugs free or very inexpensive (Trupaint, SketchUV,Wraper..) which sorted the problem.. Same goes for other ESSENTIALS modeling features sorted by plugins (SubD, Artisan, Vertex Tools, Curviloft, Flowify, Profile Builder, Skatter..).
because they are free/inexpensive they do not have required a lot of effort to develop?
sure, ESSENTIALS for you but surely not for the standard non-power user... which are btw often commercial users in comparison to forum regulars demanding to develop a Revit/Rhino/Blender clone, for free of course...
But we still have to read the same story "easy peasy development" "why no multi-threading" "long overdue" "I will leave the ship" over and over again.
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Will not accept my license code. How do I get the new one? My maintenance fee was paid in June.
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@sketch3d.de said:
because they are free/inexpensive they do not have required a lot of effort to develop?
Of course they had.
Given this i can't figure why Trimble don't buy at least some of them. I suspect it would be more time/cost effective and would allow a better integration and better performances (being able to access to the core instead of rely on the API).
3dsmax sort of follows this concept, they buy the best plugins and integrate them over the years..
I don't mean that sketchup should have al the feature max has (i love Sketchup and I'm not a fan of Autodesk actually), but.. you know, we are in 2017 (well actually trimble is in 2018) and "Freecad" has a native loft function. Sketchup doesn't, but it does have the rotated rectangle. -
@ntxdave said:
How do I get the new one? My maintenance fee was paid in June.
depends where you have bought, i.e. directly from Trimbel or from a local reseller, in the first case Trimble will email you the new license data soon if not already done, in the latter the local reseller... which may need some hours resp. until tomorrow... they do have a lot of work today
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You could also click on the renew option, enter your serial and a new one for SU2018 will be generated.
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@ntxdave said:
Will not accept my license code. How do I get the new one? My maintenance fee was paid in June.
I received my new serial direct from my reseller this afternoon. I suspect you will get the same email at some point over the next 24hrs.
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@panixia said:
Given this i can't figure why Trimble don't buy at least some of them.
what makes you think they SU aren't open to this?
how many plugin authors do you know who have approached SU with an offer to sell their IP?
as far as I'm aware, 3D text was a plugin that was purchased and incorporated...
Rotated Rectangle was a plugin which is now incorporated...
STL was a plugin which is now incorporated...
the new API also has a major change for working with textures...
https://forums.sketchup.com/t/sketchup-pro-2018/55225?u=john_drivenupthewall
your UV editing may not be too far off [even if it's a bit niche]...
in my opinion, the demise of Make shows SU's commitment to it's paying customers...
the development of Free shows SU's commitment to it's non-paying customers...
An API for Free is on the agenda, so there will be possibilities for extension developers...
john
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Anti-aliasing works on Mac again!
And the improved tape measure is purely AWESOME!
Cheers.
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@juju said:
You could also click on the renew option, enter your serial and a new one for SU2018 will be generated.
OK - I will show my stupidity - what renew option?
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@ntxdave said:
@juju said:
You could also click on the renew option, enter your serial and a new one for SU2018 will be generated.
OK - I will show my stupidity - what renew option?
Sorry, I should have been clearer, on the SketchUp website.
https://www.sketchup.com/license/renew
Insert your licence, the system will check their database and report on your maintenance status together with a new serial for SUpro2018 if maintenance is current (which it should be from your feedback on when you bought / renewed / upgraded earlier in the year).
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My 3DConnexion SpaceNavigator doesn't work with 2018. Seems like this happened with 2017, too. I currently can't connect to 3DConnexion.com to check for updated drivers.
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@juju said:
@ntxdave said:
@juju said:
You could also click on the renew option, enter your serial and a new one for SU2018 will be generated.
OK - I will show my stupidity - what renew option?
Sorry, I should have been clearer, on the SketchUp website.
https://www.sketchup.com/license/renew
Insert your licence, the system will check their database and report on your maintenance status together with a new serial for SUpro2018 if maintenance is current (which it should be from your feedback on when you bought / renewed / upgraded earlier in the year).
Thanks juju........
Jos so others know, getting the new serial number is not enough (which is all that shows on the web site when you renew). Click on the Send Email link so you will also get the new authorization key.
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Hi Dave!
Gotta admit, this is freaking me out! No new versions of SketchUp Make??!!
Say it can't be true!
I opted for a 2017 Macbook Pro by the way! For anyone reading this, I'm still a Windows gal but I had to invest in a Mac for my business!
Anita
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@charlie__v said:
@david. said:
My 3DConnexion SpaceNavigator doesn't work with 2018. Seems like this happened with 2017, too. I currently can't connect to 3DConnexion.com to check for updated drivers.
David,
I updated my 3DXware to latest and it did not make my SpaceNaivagtor kick on in SU 2018. (& yes this happened w/SU 2017 as well....a later update from 3DX ware did support 2017)So: I copied over the Folder: 3DxSketchUp & 3DxSketchUp.rb from my 2017 SU Plugins folder.
File path for 2017: C:\ProgramData\SketchUp\SketchUp 2017\SketchUp\Plugins
**SU 2018 did not have a Plugin folder in the following location so you will have to create one.
File path for 2018: C:\ProgramData\SketchUp\SketchUp 2017\SketchUp\Plugins
C
Charlie,
That worked for me. Thanks!
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@panixia said:
@dave r said:
@function said:
Sketchup Make gone... hard to believe
@panixia said:
Moreover is clear enough that they are developing the software in a direction which only makes sense for architects (maybe).
Well actually "maybe not" is the answer for me as an architect. I have been using the software since 'Sketchup 7' for architectural work and these days I am using both Sketchup and Layout to equal parts for modelling and design documentation.
Here are my five pennies worth from an architectural workflow perspective...
SECTION FILLS
This has been overdue since for an entire decade, and is now (thanks to the Skalp team)too little too late and because of this for me the biggest disappointment of this version.ADVANCED ATTRIBUTES
I could not care less about this feature. I know BIM is all the hype but in reality I don't see myself using this for reporting such as window schedules on small domestic projects. Window schedules require a lot more individual information which can not easily be pulled from a model i.e. solar direction, action type, glazing options etc. To set up a template for all the options, check and maintain the data pulls trough in a comprehensive way, and then quiet likely still having to tweak and add more specific data would take significantly more time then it could ever safe thereafter.LAYOUT IMPROVEMENTS
The ability to draw to scale in Layout may prove to useful(INSTRUCTION VIDEO PLEASE). However Layout still needs a lot more pressing improvements in particular the handling of layer visibility setting when adding new layers which is currently counter productive and very time consuming to put it nicely. Also as JuJU suggested synchronization of layers directly with Sketchup would be a no-brainer and is long overdue.DWG TO LAYOUT
Very nice! But does I am not sure how often I will really use it as I try to stay away from Autocad where I can, and importing dwg files i assume means I have to prepare and fine tune the in Autocad first...(INSTRUCTION VIDEO PLEASE)All in all I am quiet unimpressed by the new features and for the first time I am considering of skipping a version...
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@david. said:
@charlie__v said:
@david. said:
My 3DConnexion SpaceNavigator doesn't work with 2018. Seems like this happened with 2017, too. I currently can't connect to 3DConnexion.com to check for updated drivers.
David,
I updated my 3DXware to latest and it did not make my SpaceNaivagtor kick on in SU 2018. (& yes this happened w/SU 2017 as well....a later update from 3DX ware did support 2017)So: I copied over the Folder: 3DxSketchUp & 3DxSketchUp.rb from my 2017 SU Plugins folder.
File path for 2017: C:\ProgramData\SketchUp\SketchUp 2017\SketchUp\Plugins
**SU 2018 did not have a Plugin folder in the following location so you will have to create one.
File path for 2018: C:\ProgramData\SketchUp\SketchUp 2018\SketchUp\Plugins
C
Charlie,
That worked for me. Thanks!
Oh good......because I just now noticed small typo on the file path to 2018......fixed now via forum edit.
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@david. said:
My 3DConnexion SpaceNavigator doesn't work with 2018. Seems like this happened with 2017, too. I currently can't connect to 3DConnexion.com to check for updated drivers.
David,
I updated my 3DXware to latest and it did not make my SpaceNaivagtor kick on in SU 2018. (& yes this happened w/SU 2017 as well....a later update from 3DX ware did support 2017)So: I copied over the Folder: 3DxSketchUp & 3DxSketchUp.rb from my 2017 SU Plugins folder.
File path for 2017: C:\ProgramData\SketchUp\SketchUp 2017\SketchUp\Plugins
**SU 2018 did not have a Plugin folder in the following location so you will have to create one.
File path for 2018: C:\ProgramData\SketchUp\SketchUp 2018\SketchUp\Plugins
C
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They are trying to force people to eventually buy the pro version. Sketchup Make will eventually become obsolete and inefficient compared to the newer versions. Eventually, newer plugins will become incompatible with the old SketchUp make.
Let's not kid ourselfs. Sketchup free is NOT a replacement for make (at least in its current state). They completely misunderstood what made SketchUp so attractive in the first place; it was its ease of use and how powerful it was thanks to its plugins. Without these extensions, sketchup would have been forgotten in obscurity and it would have never achieved the acceptance it has today. Only simple models would have been possible and it would have been too inefficient for anything more complex. These extensions were easy to use and fit into SketchUp's philosophy well.
Sketchup free is a purely business move. It has been completely gimped in order to force people into pro subscriptions. They took away features under the excuse of making it easier and more accessible to use. While truthfully they made complex models even harder to create. Even an advert supported Sketchup make 2018 (advert on startup) would have been a better idea then the online free version.
The current trajectory will most likely lead to a reduction of hobby users which would eventually reduce the number of extensions in development. Which will lead to a decline in pro users. Even kids will move on from FREE as they eventually will want to create more complex creations (when I was 14, it was only a week before I downloaded my first plugin).
And even if someday they add extensions to SketchUp Free, it's online only.
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As a business, I suppose they don't have any other reason to make moves other than business moves. I think the free version was good for business, but I suppose they've done more homework than simply "I think...."
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@chrisjk said:
SU 2018 appears to be available in Oz.
http://www.sketchupaustralia.com.au/sketchup-pro-2018/
Dunno if this is spoof or real...
Is that really all that is new in 2018? Just new types of sections? Seriously? There's gotta be something I'm missing here. If that's the only change, why bother upgrading? There were so many things requested in the 2018 wish list forum post on the Sketchup forums. Did they even look at it?
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