Schemas

Laggingbehind · 16 Oct 2016, 18:20

Does anybody know of anyone who writes Schemas for people.. I need a simple 6 line schema for my project work. Obviously I don't mind paying someone if it gets the job done.

slbaumgartner · 17 Oct 2016, 12:57

Could you expand on what you mean by "schemas"? I'm not familiar with that as a SketchUp term.

juju · 17 Oct 2016, 13:13

I believe it to be of literary reference. A representation of a plan or theory in the form of an outline or model.

slbaumgartner · 17 Oct 2016, 13:37

I know what the word means, but that doesn't clarify what the OP wants with respect to SketchUp. A text description of the steps to create a model? For what kind of "project work"? And why 6-line?

Jim · 18 Oct 2016, 19:53

@slbaumgartner said:

I know what the word means, but that doesn't clarify what the OP wants with respect to SketchUp. A text description of the steps to create a model? For what kind of "project work"? And why 6-line?

I assume the original poster is talking about a Classification Schema, although a 6-line classification schema seems... unlikely.

cotty · 18 Oct 2016, 20:50

Doesn't seem to be a very urgent problem ...

Laggingbehind · 27 Oct 2016, 12:40

Sorry Guys been away for a couple of weeks & wasn't able to log onto the forum. The schema is to do with the classification of catering components. I'm using sketchup 15 which has the ifc3x2 classification but its far to in depth for what I need & doesn't appear to have the fields I would ideally like so looking at something much more simple. The information I think would need/want are as follows

Description
Size
Manufacturer
Model ref
Electrical supply
Gas supply
Cold water supply
Hot water supply
Waste
URL

Just a couple more than the original 6 in the OP.. Help would be greatly appreciated & apologises again for the delay in responding

juju · 27 Oct 2016, 12:56

It sounds like you want a personalised IFC-type system. Take a look at this article in the SketchUp knowledge base.

It may be of some use.

Laggingbehind · 27 Oct 2016, 14:10

Exactly. I did go thro the article before posting this thread but failed in my attempts to get a working classification... No idea what I was doing wrong but still couldn't get it to load into sketchup so hence the thread.

Jim · 28 Oct 2016, 00:10

I am interested in learning about this in relation to SketchUp. I will preface this by saying I don't quite understand everything that is going on with SketchUp Classifications and XML Schemas, but here is something simple and which may work for you.

The SketchUp Help Center article says SketchUp can import both .skc and .xsd files. .xsd file is a simple text file. I just googled an example .xsd file, modified it slightly, and imported into SketchUp via the Classification dialog.

[1] Import the Thing.xsd file (from Model Info/Classification Dialog)
[2] Classify your components as a "Thing" type (in Entity Info)
[3] Open the Components Options Dialog.

Of course, you will want to rename the Thing.xsd file and edit it's contents from "Thing" to whatever you want to name your classification.

Rename to Thing.xsd

juju · 28 Oct 2016, 07:30

I've also been toying with this but I have not had enough time to really get to the bottom of things.

I've downloaded and tried the latest IFC schema (IFC4_ADD2) but that seems even more elaborate and technical than the one that ships with SketchUp.

The option you've posted above seems like a viable option. Thanks.

Jim · 28 Oct 2016, 08:35

I see SketchUp will create a drop-down for enumerations which is a nice feature. I'm out of time now but can post an example later.

Laggingbehind · 28 Oct 2016, 09:05

That's great Jim & really appreciated
I'll have a proper look later in the day, apparently my boss thinks I should we working hahaha

Jim · 28 Oct 2016, 11:07

For reference, the following page is a good place to start.

XML Schema Part 0: Primer Second Edition

(www.w3.org)

juju · 28 Oct 2016, 14:22

Also take a look at the IFC Doc application over at buildingSMART to help you "roll your own".

Jim · 29 Oct 2016, 09:16

@laggingbehind said:

That's great Jim & really appreciated
I'll have a proper look later in the day, apparently my boss thinks I should we working hahaha

You could use plain old Dynamic Component attributes for this - then you could use the fields with Generate Report. Any reason you want a schema?

Laggingbehind · 15 Nov 2016, 18:04

I guess the reason I wanted to go down the Schema route is because if I have a drawing with 30 components I thought it would be easier than creating the attributes each time....however I stand to be corrected if I'm wrong

Jim · 15 Nov 2016, 21:32

@laggingbehind said:

I guess the reason I wanted to go down the Schema route is because if I have a drawing with 30 components I thought it would be easier than creating the attributes each time....however I stand to be corrected if I'm wrong

That sounds about right if you don't need reporting directly in SketchUp. I don't know if there are extensions that provide Classification reporting for SketchUp - there is no reason there couldn't be one similar to "Generate Report" only for Classifications.