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Real world Wip. Glass sculptures.

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    Bryan K
    last edited by 23 Sept 2016, 23:13

    Stunning work! Please show us more progress pictures if you can!

    See my portfolio at https://delphiscousin.blogspot.com/

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      cotty
      last edited by 24 Sept 2016, 06:43

      Have I said WOW already? I'm a big fan of this topic already...

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        Box
        last edited by 24 Sept 2016, 11:23

        Ok, here's a couple more.

        This is still a test sample, we are making this to work through the issues involved in the laminating process. Issues like, how the hell do you glue things this big together without getting air bubbles and crap between the layers.
        This is 10 sheets of glass with the contour lines compressed to form the image. So it has some depth but nowhere near the final piece which will be 10 times thicker.
        Something most people don't realise is that glass isn't very easy to see through when you stack it all together, you get multiple reflections and clouding and the more layers the denser it becomes. You eventually can't see through it at all.
        However, when properly 'glued' together the block of 100 sheets will become pretty much optically clear. You will be able to read a newspaper through it.


        Here you see the wave shape forming at the top, and that's the monster laser in the background.


        A better angle to see the figure.

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          d12dozr
          last edited by 25 Sept 2016, 06:04

          Fantastic project. Very interested to see the process and results!

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            Box
            last edited by 29 Sept 2016, 11:53

            This was a test to confirm the amount of detail we wanted to put into it, we needed to do a large enough section so that we could see if the back and front faces worked together. It would be no good if the hair on the back of his head overpowered the detail of his face. I think we have got the balance right.

            As I mentioned earlier, sheets of glass stacked together become too dense to see through, but once laminated it becomes optically clear.
            You can see that here, the first image is just dry sheets of glass with all the detail but not glued.
            The second is the same sheets glued together.
            The third is with light from underneath.


            No glue


            Glued


            Underlite

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              cotty
              last edited by 29 Sept 2016, 15:20

              Some would call it an "exceptional art object", others call it "just a test"... ๐Ÿ‘

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                Box
                last edited by 29 Sept 2016, 22:47

                Thanks Cotty, I know what you mean.
                But now that it has answered the questions it's just a 90 kilo lump we have to put somewhere out of the way.

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                  pilou
                  last edited by 29 Sept 2016, 22:56

                  Seems a little morbid! ๐Ÿ˜‰

                  Frenchy Pilou
                  Is beautiful that please without concept!
                  My Little site :)

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                    andybot
                    last edited by 30 Sept 2016, 14:19

                    @box said:

                    it's just a 90 kilo lump we have to put somewhere out of the way.

                    yikes, so how much will the full project weigh?!

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                      Box
                      last edited by 30 Sept 2016, 15:00

                      I think I mentioned that in my original post. ~3000kg each. We are adjusting the calculations all the time as we refine things. The special air bed transporter is limited to 7 metric tons. So we need the two blocks and their support structures to come in at less than that. It's going to be close.

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                        tuna1957
                        last edited by 4 Oct 2016, 16:51

                        insane just freaking insane ! ๐Ÿ˜ฎ ๐Ÿ‘ ๐Ÿ‘ ๐Ÿ‘

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                          brooklynia373
                          last edited by 4 Oct 2016, 22:05

                          BRAVO!

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                            Box
                            last edited by 10 Oct 2016, 13:36

                            The job has been tied up in rather uninteresting testing and jig construction lately so no interesting photo ops. But I figured this little vid might be of interest and give a bit of an idea of how dynamic the sculptures will be.

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                              cotty
                              last edited by 10 Oct 2016, 16:15

                              I'm surprised how good you can see through the whole glass block...

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                                pbacot
                                last edited by 10 Oct 2016, 16:20

                                Looks incredible! Is the green color a choice or is that always the result with a huge block of glass.

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                                  Box
                                  last edited by 11 Oct 2016, 02:24

                                  @cotty said:

                                  I'm surprised how good you can see through the whole glass block...

                                  Yes it is remarkable, when correctly laminated the optical quality is almost perfect.

                                  @pbacot said:

                                  Looks incredible! Is the green color a choice or is that always the result with a huge block of glass.

                                  All clear glass has a colour, usually this greenish tint, sometimes it is a little bluer, but it's not normally noticeable when looked through. If you look at the edge of a piece of glass you will see the colour better.
                                  You can get several varieties of "white" glass, Saphire, Starfire, Low iron etc. They are expensive and not what we wanted in this case. We had to make sure we were able to get all the glass we needed from one batch so the colour was uniform. I made a sculpture many years back that ended up with a blue stripe through it.

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                                    Box
                                    last edited by 17 Oct 2016, 11:09

                                    A bit of an update, this is what about 1/3 of a block looks like. This is just a dry stack of glass so it is too dense to see deeper than a few layers.


                                    20161017_162817-768x1365.jpg

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                                      dale
                                      last edited by 17 Oct 2016, 15:08

                                      Have done lots of glasswork, but this is definitely a masterwork!
                                      Couple of questions...
                                      How are you actually attaining the contours?
                                      I know you mentioned acid shading, are you using hydroflouric acid?
                                      Are you laminating with a UV glue, or a film laminate?
                                      Sending links to all my glass buddies, thanks for sharing, this is a fantastic project.

                                      Just monkeying around....like Monsanto

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                                        Box
                                        last edited by 19 Oct 2016, 13:18

                                        Those are some very knowledgeable questions Dale.
                                        Do you mean, how am I getting the data for the contours or how am I putting the contours on the glass?
                                        I have 3d scanned two posed models to get very detailed meshes which I have sliced vertically at .5mm . Then I laser engrave those contours onto the appropriate layers.
                                        We abandoned the acid shading, it confused the image. But no, it wasn't Hydrofluric. That stuff is just too complex to work with on such a large scale. I've used it a great deal over the years, seen the results of a tiny splash, a leaky respirator etc and didn't want to get involved with buckets of it for this job. We used the simpler version, Armour Etch, still dangerous, but thankfully not needed now.
                                        The laminating process is quite involved and isn't just one or the other. We have had to develop a unique combination of techniques and glues specifically for this job. UV would be no good as the Sculptures will be outside in a fairly harsh environment. The expansion and contraction of such a large block would tend to tear the layers part, the glue wouldn't fail but the glass would.
                                        So I've had to use a system that allows the whole block to flex, breath and enjoy the snow and sun on its face. It has been something of a challenge.

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                                          db11
                                          last edited by 19 Oct 2016, 13:53

                                          Really spectacular work. Love the test block with the head, such a cool effect.

                                          Looking forward to seeing the final result.

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