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    • thomthomT Offline
      thomthom
      last edited by

      I've not heard of that. What system do you got? SU version, OS and OS version?

      Thomas Thomassen — SketchUp Monkey & Coding addict
      List of my plugins and link to the CookieWare fund

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      • plot-parisP Offline
        plot-paris
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        SketchUp Pro 2016 (v 16.1.1449)
        Windows 10

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        • cottyC Offline
          cotty
          last edited by

          I've got a lot of unresolved problems while opening the model, the cleanup afterwards leads to this...

          cleanupproblem.JPG

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          • thomthomT Offline
            thomthom
            last edited by

            @plot-paris said:

            SketchUp Pro 2016 (v 16.1.1449)
            Windows 10

            What version of CleanUp did you have?

            Thomas Thomassen — SketchUp Monkey & Coding addict
            List of my plugins and link to the CookieWare fund

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            • thomthomT Offline
              thomthom
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              @cotty said:

              I've got a lot of unresolved problems while opening the model, the cleanup afterwards leads to this...

              I also saw the model had lots of validation issues.

              I found your error report Cotty. It appear to come from face merging - some faces where lost. Typically I see this when a model have small faces which cause tolerance issue in SU. Or some models with imported DWG data which have carried over some small precision issues.

              However, when I opened that model and ran only Merge Faces I got no errors.

              What settings did you guys use with CleanUp? The different set of options often have great impact on what might trigger a bug/issue.

              Thomas Thomassen — SketchUp Monkey & Coding addict
              List of my plugins and link to the CookieWare fund

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              • cottyC Offline
                cotty
                last edited by

                I do prefer ultra-clean... 😉

                cleanupproblemsettings.JPG

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                • plot-parisP Offline
                  plot-paris
                  last edited by

                  I was relying on the SketchUcation Plugin to keep my stuff up to date. But that obviously didn't work. I just re-installed CleanUp³ and now got the same error message as cotty.

                  I then used thomthom's trick and did a first run, just Merging Faces and then a second, full cleanup. This worked!

                  So thanks guys. Now I have a new trick to use, when handling problematic models...

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                  • Dave RD Offline
                    Dave R
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                    Maybe you could add another trick and clean periodically as you go so you don't have a big load of stuff to clean up at the end.

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                    • thomthomT Offline
                      thomthom
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                      @cotty said:

                      I do prefer ultra-clean... 😉

                      I recommend to enable Remove Duplicate Face only when you know there is an issue. It's extremely slow and not always reliable.

                      Thomas Thomassen — SketchUp Monkey & Coding addict
                      List of my plugins and link to the CookieWare fund

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                      • thomthomT Offline
                        thomthom
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                        @plot-paris said:

                        I then used thomthom's trick and did a first run, just Merging Faces and then a second, full cleanup. This worked!

                        That's strange... and troublesome. It means the issue stems from compound cleanup actions. hmm...

                        Thomas Thomassen — SketchUp Monkey & Coding addict
                        List of my plugins and link to the CookieWare fund

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                        • cottyC Offline
                          cotty
                          last edited by

                          @thomthom said:

                          @cotty said:

                          I do prefer ultra-clean... 😉

                          I recommend to enable Remove Duplicate Face only when you know there is an issue. It's extremely slow and not always reliable.

                          Thank you for the tip!

                          my SketchUp gallery

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                          • A Offline
                            AirWindSolar
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                            @thomthom said:

                            That's strange... and troublesome. It means the issue stems from compound cleanup actions. hmm...

                            Possibly the order of the operations? Sounds like removing duplicate faces simplified it enough that whatever was crashing could handle what was left after that specific operation.

                            One thing I'm noticing is that, for example, the bicycles are 24 separate but apparently identical ~600kb groups. That adds a lot of complexity compared to having a couple dozen instances of a single component. Same thing with several doors, etc. How hard would it be to recognize identical groups/components/items, and replace all of the duplicates with instances of one? (Maybe with some minimum complexity and/or count so it's not making components of every triangle or rectangle that happens to have a single mate somewhere.)

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                            • thomthomT Offline
                              thomthom
                              last edited by

                              @airwindsolar said:

                              How hard would it be to recognize identical groups/components/items, and replace all of the duplicates with instances of one? (Maybe with some minimum complexity and/or count so it's not making components of every triangle or rectangle that happens to have a single mate somewhere.)

                              I had a stab at that a few years ago: http://sketchucation.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=30143
                              But I never got around to finish it. It quickly becomes non-trivial.

                              Thomas Thomassen — SketchUp Monkey & Coding addict
                              List of my plugins and link to the CookieWare fund

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                              • A Offline
                                AirWindSolar
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                                Another thought on this one; not sure how hard it would be to calculate without saving, but a before and after file size, or percent reduction of the file size in the info box would be a handy bit of bragging if a user is wondering how much this saved them.

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                                • thomthomT Offline
                                  thomthom
                                  last edited by

                                  That would not be realistically possible with any kind of accuracy. The fileformat changes from version to version and the filesize depend on how SU pack the bytes.

                                  Also, the filesize is not a good indication for how complex or large the model is. You can have a model with millions of faces and tiny filesize due to using components. On the other hand, you could also have a huge filesize with only a cube in the model - if there are applied large textures, watermarks etc. Materials, attributes, styles, watermarks all skew the filesize.

                                  CleanUp was never made for saving filesize - it was for making the model geometry cleaner and simpler, hopefully improving the performance of the model a little. (Some times you do notice a big filesize difference - which is most likely due to purging unused items, but that's just a bonus.)

                                  Thomas Thomassen — SketchUp Monkey & Coding addict
                                  List of my plugins and link to the CookieWare fund

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                                  • pilouP Offline
                                    pilou
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                                    Why Clean Up after a Lattice Maker (by TIG) don't Clean coplanar thing ? 😮

                                    Solid Solver by TIG make it ! 😎

                                    Solid Inspector2 don't make it! 😮 (by ThomThom)
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                                    What I miss ?

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                                    • K Offline
                                      kaas
                                      last edited by

                                      @Thom - I'm curious - when using CleanUp3, the operation collapses the Outliner-list. Its the same behavior as choosing 'collapse all' when right-clicking on the level entry (the file name). Do you know what causes this behavior?


                                      cleanup.gif

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                                      • mariochaM Offline
                                        mariocha
                                        last edited by

                                        I like localizing plugins. Helps me learn ruby. I found this one well written and thus a good teacher.
                                        So it is now localized with LanguageHandler. And french strings. v 3.4.3
                                        Should I get it signed before posting it here, or send it to you, or what ?
                                        Cookies to you.
                                        p.s.: I had to change the tooltips heredocs to strings, of course.
                                        oh, also, no progressbar or status on Mac.

                                        %(#008000)[Mario C.
                                        Every rule has exceptions, but some.]

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                                        • A Offline
                                          ataman811
                                          last edited by

                                          Hi!
                                          How can I translate your plugin into Russian?

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                                          • OxerO Offline
                                            Oxer
                                            last edited by

                                            I translated the plugin to Spanish language a long time ago for my own use but I made it translating the strings in the .rb files directly.
                                            mariocha, can you share the strings file to translate it to Spanish? what did you do to give support to the .rb files to translate the plugin?

                                            "The result is the end what is important is the process" by Oxer
                                            [http://www.oxervision.blogspot.com/(http://www.oxervision.blogspot.com/)]

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