Anyone else been seeing messed up smoothed/soft edges?

Rich O Brien · 18 Jul 2013, 21:42

If I edit these components direct, the edges are correct. But if I then import them into my parent model, it has troubles.

Well documented and known issue

WillPittenger · 18 Jul 2013, 21:47

@rich o brien said:

@willpittenger said:

If I edit these components direct, the edges are correct. But if I then import them into my parent model, it has troubles.

Well documented and known issue

I don't suppose we might see a fix sometime soon.

jeff hammond · 19 Jul 2013, 01:10

@willpittenger said:

Be nice,

sorry. didn't mean to come off that way.
i was just confused by your question is all.

WillPittenger · 19 Jul 2013, 01:15

@unknownuser said:

@willpittenger said:

Be nice,

sorry. didn't mean to come off that way.
i was just confused by your question is all.

Actually, I got misquoted. I believe I was saying that it would be nice to be able to reproduce it in a predictable manner. But I don't really know the circumstances other than certain events "seem" to be involved and it requires a really large complex model.

WillPittenger · 19 Jul 2013, 01:43

@willpittenger said:

It seems that every now and then, SketchUp gets confused about which edges are soft/smoothed and which aren't. This seems to be triggered most often by Intersect Faces (on selected faces only even when the edges in question aren't on interesting faces) and grouping/ungrouping faces with smoothed/soft edges.

Well, after having spent umpteen hours fixing my model, I can provide more details. I still don't know more about the circumstances that led to the errors. But I can tell you more about the results. Maybe that will help track down the culprit.

First, if a non-smooth/soft edge is associated with two (and only two) planar or nearly planar faces, it may be smoothed/softened.

Second, suppose you have an area that started out as the output of the sandbox from contours function. In my case, I wanted most of many of my sandbox areas to be mulched. But part of such an area might be too steep. So I then create a nice curve above it that follows where the gradient changes and use the push/pull tool to extrude that through the sandbox area. Intersect faces then creates the dividing line. The key is that some edges will be split by that curve. If the above event unsmoothes/unsoftens one of the fragments from that edge, all the fragments will be affected.

jeff hammond · 19 Jul 2013, 02:53

@willpittenger said:

Actually, I got misquoted.

haha.. these darn things called words.. always messing me up.. but i see what you were saying now.
carry on

thomthom · 19 Jul 2013, 09:48

There is a nasty bug where selected geometry will have the Soften Edges function applied to it when the SketchUp window becomes unresponsive.

Say you have a group selected, you do some operation that takes a while - the SU UI becomes unresponsive. When the operation is done and the UI responds a Soften Edges operation is applied to the selected geometry.

I also notice this when I minimize and restore the SU window.

For this reason alone I constantly press Ctrl+T to deselect geometry as quickly as possible to avoid soft+smooth properties from being modified by this bug.

WillPittenger · 19 Jul 2013, 10:59

@thomthom said:

There is a nasty bug where selected geometry will have the Soften Edges function applied to it when the SketchUp window becomes unresponsive.

Say you have a group selected, you do some operation that takes a while - the SU UI becomes unresponsive. When the operation is done and the UI responds a Soften Edges operation is applied to the selected geometry.

I also notice this when I minimize and restore the SU window.

For this reason alone I constantly press Ctrl+T to deselect geometry as quickly as possible to avoid soft+smooth properties from being modified by this bug.

Well, for my model, that would be a lot of operations. Auto-save being a primary example. You can't live without it. But until 2013 arrived, I was saving as much as I was editing--even with the file living on a SSD. It still takes longer than it should, but is improved. Still, it would be nice if saves could occur in the background. Trouble with the auto-save is that SketchUp just pauses without giving you a chance to deselect things.

I also mentioned that ungrouping large groups causes it for the former group contents. You can't deselect the group and still do that operation.

thomthom · 19 Jul 2013, 11:11

Yea, sometimes you cannot avoid that bug from happening. You can undo it though. But you need to catch it right as it happens.

josephkim626 · 5 Aug 2015, 10:19

was this issue addressed afterwards? I am still seeing it happen.