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    KrisM
    last edited by 21 Feb 2014, 15:42

    Thomas,
    Thanks for the clarification. Sorry about my statement above being incorrect. Great tool.
    Kris

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      pbacot
      last edited by 21 Feb 2014, 16:19

      Thanks for asking the question. I don't think I've tried that way to flatten before. This tool (and others like Curviloft and Artisan) just about need a whole "for Dummies" book on their own. Imagine the book we'll need to use the bezier surface tool when it comes...

      MacOSX MojaveSketchUp Pro v19 Twilight v2 Thea v3 PowerCADD

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        thomthom
        last edited by 21 Feb 2014, 17:35

        Don't be shy to ask about workflow questions. Gives me insight to what can be improved and what would use useful improvements to the documentation, FAQ and/or video examples.

        Certainly bezier surface is much more complex... and creating documentation for it is something I dread... πŸ˜•

        Thomas Thomassen β€” SketchUp Monkey & Coding addict
        List of my plugins and link to the CookieWare fund

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          xiombarg
          last edited by 22 Feb 2014, 00:54

          @box said:

          Krism, do you have Artisan, another wonderful tool.

          It has a make planer tool that you can specify, Best, XY, YZ or XZ.

          But the scaling in Vertex Tools works in conjunction with the axis tool so that you can specify any angle or plane in your model and have it flatten to that angle. Artisan's Make Planar only works with the default x,y,z planes and ignores the axis tool, even if you change the world axis outside of any local groupings it still references the original default x,y,z planes. I also generally prefer lasso selection tools vs brush selection tools, especially when aligning single rows of vertices to build clean geometry or frameworks for lofting with plugins such as Curviloft.

          If you consider that Artisan video with the lightcycle, think how much more quick and efficient it would have been to also use Vertex Tools to properly move, align, merge etc. some of those problematic areas in the geometry where he kept having to rework.

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            xiombarg
            last edited by 22 Feb 2014, 03:32

            I hope that didn't sound like I was trying to put down Artisan. Artisan is great for subdividing, and the knife tool is indispensable for certain tasks, but I just wanted to make it clear what it's limitations are when flattening or aligning vertices.

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              xiombarg
              last edited by 22 Feb 2014, 06:01

              As long as I'm stacking posts and tooting on about VT... I also have to express how HUGE the Gizmo is and it's right click custom settings when combined with using VT's edge extrusion function. By choosing to "release orientation" and "align to custom" combined with VTs edge extrusion, this is by far the fastest way to whip out most non-linear and organic model forms, at least in the early stages. I'm working on a curvey looking spaceship that normally I would never use Sketchup to create, but with VT (along with Artisan for the subdividing), Sketchup is now a capable option. I'll try and post it up when it gets closer to being done.

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                thomthom
                last edited by 22 Feb 2014, 06:32

                @xiombarg said:

                I'm working on a curvey looking spaceship that normally I would never use Sketchup to create, but with VT (along with Artisan for the subdividing), Sketchup is now a capable option. I'll try and post it up when it gets closer to being done.

                Got some work in progress screenshots? I'd love to see what you're working on.

                Thomas Thomassen β€” SketchUp Monkey & Coding addict
                List of my plugins and link to the CookieWare fund

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                  xiombarg
                  last edited by 22 Feb 2014, 18:12

                  Give me a few days on it and I'll post something up. I won't have time to work on it this weekend, and what I have so far isn't substantial enough to give and accurate idea of what the end result will be.

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                    thomthom
                    last edited by 24 Feb 2014, 10:14

                    πŸ‘ πŸ‘ πŸŽ‰

                    Thomas Thomassen β€” SketchUp Monkey & Coding addict
                    List of my plugins and link to the CookieWare fund

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                      sicksickisck
                      last edited by 24 May 2015, 10:03

                      will it be nice to see something like this [attachment] in V2 πŸ˜„ . and some shortcuts!! to make work faster with this tool..


                      quick planar move

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                        thomthom
                        last edited by 24 May 2015, 17:07

                        Yea - 2D Move and Scale for the Gizmo is planned. πŸ˜„

                        Thomas Thomassen β€” SketchUp Monkey & Coding addict
                        List of my plugins and link to the CookieWare fund

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                          panixia
                          last edited by 25 May 2015, 20:54

                          can't wait πŸ˜„

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                            pbacot
                            last edited by 29 May 2015, 15:42

                            Powerful and excellent tool! Fun too! My main problem with vertex tools, you can't pick a point and use inferences with the Gizmo. I often default to the simple point move tool to do that. Am I missing something?

                            MacOSX MojaveSketchUp Pro v19 Twilight v2 Thea v3 PowerCADD

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                              pbacot
                              last edited by 29 May 2015, 16:18

                              @thomthom said:

                              @xiombarg said:

                              I'm working on a curvey looking spaceship that normally I would never use Sketchup to create, but with VT (along with Artisan for the subdividing), Sketchup is now a capable option. I'll try and post it up when it gets closer to being done.

                              Got some work in progress screenshots? I'd love to see what you're working on.

                              Early progress shots especially.

                              MacOSX MojaveSketchUp Pro v19 Twilight v2 Thea v3 PowerCADD

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                                thomthom
                                last edited by 29 May 2015, 22:27

                                @pbacot said:

                                Powerful and excellent tool! Fun too! My main problem with vertex tools, you can't pick a point and use inferences with the Gizmo. I often default to the simple point move tool to do that. Am I missing something?

                                How would you expect inference to work with the Gizmo?
                                Are you manipulating single or multiple vertices with the Gizmo?

                                Thomas Thomassen β€” SketchUp Monkey & Coding addict
                                List of my plugins and link to the CookieWare fund

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                                  pbacot
                                  last edited by 29 May 2015, 22:47

                                  I mean I when I move it, after picking the direction, I want to be able to pick a point (most likely at the center of the selection) then move it relative to (inference) another point on the model, sort of a target point. Often it's not for exact lineup but for some frame of reference for the move. (Sometimes I do move single points with it. Maybe there's no point using it for that?)

                                  MacOSX MojaveSketchUp Pro v19 Twilight v2 Thea v3 PowerCADD

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                                    panixia
                                    last edited by 30 May 2015, 10:22

                                    @pbacot said:

                                    I often default to the simple point move tool to do that. Am I missing something?

                                    maybe you are missing that if you activate the move tool with soft selection turned on, it does exactly what you are asking for πŸ‘
                                    or pheraps i did'nt 100% understand your point..

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                                      sicksickisck
                                      last edited by 15 Jul 2015, 20:45

                                      my works with vertex tool [and tgi3d and fredo monster tools 🀣 πŸ‘Š ]
                                      https://www.artstation.com/artwork/staff-001-modules-concept-artof-ancient-space
                                      some progress..
                                      https://www.artstation.com/artwork/infiltrator_art2
                                      vertex tool is very very useful tool,, so far, for me πŸŽ‰

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                                        thomthom
                                        last edited by 15 Jul 2015, 22:45

                                        @sicksickisck said:

                                        my works with vertex tool [and tgi3d and fredo monster tools 🀣 πŸ‘Š ]
                                        https://www.artstation.com/artwork/staff-001-modules-concept-artof-ancient-space
                                        some progress..
                                        https://www.artstation.com/artwork/infiltrator_art2
                                        vertex tool is very very useful tool,, so far, for me πŸŽ‰

                                        That looks amazing! Loving the Infiltrator!

                                        Thomas Thomassen β€” SketchUp Monkey & Coding addict
                                        List of my plugins and link to the CookieWare fund

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                                          panixia
                                          last edited by 16 Jul 2015, 07:51

                                          impressive.

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