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    • JQLJ Offline
      JQL
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      @cotty said:

      I think the reason is the different axis for the group (you can see both in BOXs gif). the follow me uses the path circle, but with the global axis.

      That is true! And that is why the circle's profile is not orthogonal with the path and the result is an elliptical profile donut with strange endings...

      Seems sketchup is picking the circle path and use it's context axis to place it relatively to the profile's context's axis.

      If the path's component´s axis would be centered with the circle and if the profile was centered in it's context axis, then the sphere would be created.

      If the profile had been drawn along the X axis a circular profile donut would have been created instead of an elliptical one.

      What also happened here is that Box grouped the path while you grouped the profile.

      I also bet things will work differently if using a group or component...

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      • BoxB Offline
        Box
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        Talk about missing the point.


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        • JQLJ Offline
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          @box said:

          Talk about missing the point.

          LOL! That's cool! But you missed the point for most of it... 😆

          I think... 😕

          I'll try it in a minute but my gif creating capabilities are messed up since I got a 4k monitor... licecap doesn't work well nor other stuff I tried...

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          • BoxB Offline
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            I am preparing my eggs for the sucking lesson.

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            • JQLJ Offline
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              You have to center the axis inside the circle group prior to follow me.

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              • JQLJ Offline
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                Sh** I'm doing it right now in several ways, but can't gif it!!!!

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                • JQLJ Offline
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                  last edited by

                  wait a moment... changing computer!

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                  • BoxB Offline
                    Box
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                    I think you have made my point for me. If the profile is in a group it causes a different result because it relates the group axis to the global axis. But if the profile is in a group it simply uses the group Axis.
                    QED

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                      • BoxB Offline
                        Box
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                        at forty paces!

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                        • JQLJ Offline
                          JQL
                          last edited by

                          circle.gif

                          Well what was your point exactly?

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                          • BoxB Offline
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                            Which proved my point, the follow me reacts differently if the profile is grouped rather than the path being grouped. The origin axis comes into play when the path is grouped.
                            So my original assertion that odd things occur when you group the path is true.
                            Also my original model was orthographically correct and shows the relationship between the global axis and the group axis. If I did the follow me the other way it would have produced a sphere.
                            Moving the axis of the path solves the problem but is unrelated to the original post.

                            I simply pointed out that while Carsten was showing something that works beautifully one way it doesn't work the same way when reversed.

                            I'll add this for luck.


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                            • JQLJ Offline
                              JQL
                              last edited by

                              Duh!

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                              • pmolsonP Offline
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                                Did you know

                                When you have a group open and everything else is faded away and hard to see you can click on the
                                (use sun for shading button check box) and the rest of the model is then clear to see.

                                I like this option for when I want to reference my open group to other parts of the model.

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                                • cottyC Offline
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                                  👍
                                  In addition, you can influence this here furthermore...
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                                  • pbacotP Offline
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                                    Just came across the follow me showdown. Maybe cause I'm coming off a cold ...I'm confused. Would be nice to know the best practice for other than circle paths. I have always thought it was a hassle needing to have the objects in the same context...but now I find you don't . Duh!!!

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                                    • icedkaszI Offline
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                                      Just discovered that ctrl+shift+V pastes in place. Didn't know that for 3 versions. I've made messes out of contour maps by being millimeters off.

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                                      • cottyC Offline
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                                        @icedkasz said:

                                        Just discovered that ctrl+shift+V pastes in place. Didn't know that for 3 versions. I've made messes out of contour maps by being millimeters off.

                                        In the preferences, you can switch those two and use Ctrl+V for paste in place and Ctrl+Shift+V for simple pasting (I'm using pasting in place much more often).

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                                        • Bob JamesB Offline
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                                          @icedkasz said:

                                          Just discovered that ctrl+shift+V pastes in place. Didn't know that for 3 versions.

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                                            @bob james said:

                                            @icedkasz said:

                                            Just discovered that ctrl+shift+V pastes in place. Didn't know that for 3 versions.

                                            You're not alone

                                            I never found that myself because that was exactly the shortcut I used with V8. As I always imported shortcuts I thought that was exclusively my command... I guess that counts as a Duh!

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