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    • hellnbakH Offline
      hellnbak
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      Anyone else have problems when copying and pasting a larger model (or even a smaller one) where the smoothed lines get randomly un-smoothed all over the pasted model (and even the copied model, which is really strange)? Can take a lot of time getting things back to where they should be.

      Just curious

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      • thomthomT Offline
        thomthom
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        @hellnbak said:

        Anyone else have problems when copying and pasting a larger model (or even a smaller one) where the smoothed lines get randomly un-smoothed all over the pasted model (and even the copied model, which is really strange)? Can take a lot of time getting things back to where they should be.

        Yes!!!!!!!!!
        Extremely annoying bug. It's not Copy+Paste - it's any operation where SketchUp becomes unresponsive for a while, stops updating - then flickers back into action. Save operation on large models can cause this. Drape etc. For this reason along I'm constantly pressing Ctrl+T - deselecting in fear of the smoothing to kick in. Whenever SketchUp works hard on something I always check if the smoothing occurred. It's undoable if you catch it immediately.

        It's reported to the SketchUp team - but it wasn't an easy thing to fix. 😞

        Thomas Thomassen — SketchUp Monkey & Coding addict
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        • hellnbakH Offline
          hellnbak
          last edited by

          C'mon ThomThom, you're the SketchUp Wizard, you can fix anything!

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            Ecuadorian
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            Add to the list of annoyances:

            Sometimes, when importing a FormFonts model, SketchUp switches to "view extents", turns on shadows and the imported model is in the origin. 😡

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            • mitcorbM Offline
              mitcorb
              last edited by

              May not be the same thing, but it seems I have opened some older stuff and seen hard edges where I could have sworn they were smoothed or hidden.

              I take the slow, deliberate approach in my aimless wandering.

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              • Chris FullmerC Offline
                Chris Fullmer
                last edited by

                @hellnbak said:

                C'mon ThomThom, you're the SketchUp Wizard, you can fix anything!

                Here's the fix Thom, ready for a new plugin to make?

                Write a little observer that watches all edges and keeps a hash of every edge's soft/smooth setting. Then have a button the user can click that will re-apply those settings to the model. So it would just iterate back through the model's edges and apply what it has in the hash to the edge. If it doesn't have that edge in the hash (like from a paste function), it just skips it.

                Though I see there would be problems if its an observer auto updating itself and then losing the "correct" setting that you want to revert to. So I'm not sure how you manage that.... oh well.

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                • thomthomT Offline
                  thomthom
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                  Sorry Chris, but, what's wrong with Ctrl+Z?

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                  • Chris FullmerC Offline
                    Chris Fullmer
                    last edited by

                    Oh, I was thinking if you went quite a few steps forward before you noticed and you didn't want to ctrl-z back and undo things.

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                    • thomthomT Offline
                      thomthom
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                      Yea - that is the risk. But how can you be sure there was no smoothing done afterward on something else that was intended.

                      Mind you - you could make a smoothing lock plugin. Say when you have a large terrain model or other large mesh which you have carefully smoothed and is in high risk of suffer from this glitch. You could store the soft+smooth state as an attribute in the Locking function. Then, if you find the mesh to have been messed up you can restore it. Only thing - I'm getting the impression that attributes to lots of entities can quicly increase filesize. (Need to check by how much.)

                      Thomas Thomassen — SketchUp Monkey & Coding addict
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                      • DesertRavenD Offline
                        DesertRaven
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                        This slow down also happens when you create your first component in a session. The worst is when you copy paste lines imported from CAD. There must be a bottleneck somewhere in the memory management.
                        I'm already happy it's come so far, 64 bit and the fast display of large models.

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                        • M Offline
                          monkers
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                          Anyone know why copying something in sketchup takes for ever but move+ctrl to duplicate there is no hang time. Is it something to do with spooling it to the clipboard? If so is there a way to make the clipboard faster? ei. changing the directory to a ram disk or something?

                          I've actually got use to move+ctrl rather than copy but there's certain instances where I cant get away with it. Mainly when I cut something out I want to paste out/into another group, so its not duplicating the geometry.

                          cheers

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                          • onzkiO Offline
                            onzki
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                            Hello! Resurrecting an old issue 😄 I am using the latest 2017 version, and still has this problem, although it is selective, only experienced on certain files. Reason is still unknown. I am copying a partial model, about 5MB only and it takes forever to paste it into the host file (not responding).


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                            • josephkim626J Offline
                              josephkim626
                              last edited by

                              I too have this issue which is new in 2017 version.

                              I suspect it has to do with lines and faces having their own identification, but not sure as my knowledge is limited. Any way I can bypass or force the process to be quicker?

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                              • G Offline
                                Garry K
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                                Just to rule this out - why don't you update your graphics driver.

                                I had a very similar problem - creating first component as a copy and paste or simply creating a component from scratch. The bigger the model the longer it took. I updated my NVidia drivers and the problem disappeared.

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                                • josephkim626J Offline
                                  josephkim626
                                  last edited by

                                  Will do, and see if it makes any difference.

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