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    Ecuadorian
    last edited by 11 Sept 2012, 19:54

    I was wondering if there is any other way to bring a large model (say, 300k polygons) from another SketchUp file. I've tried copy-pasting and importing, but both are veeeery sloooooow. In fact, currently I've been importing a model for 20 minutes already. Any ideas?

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      thomthom
      last edited by 11 Sept 2012, 21:02

      Importing, instead of copy+paste, might be quicker.

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        Bob James
        last edited by 12 Sept 2012, 18:26

        Same problem as Ecuadorian.
        Importing doesn't seem to help much (if any)

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          Charlie__V
          last edited by 12 Sept 2012, 19:40

          Not knowing the size of your current model........could you bring your model "into" the larger model you are curently trying to import........and "save as"?

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            Ecuadorian
            last edited by 14 Sept 2012, 04:15

            Well, after waiting for so long, I decided to go ahead and click despite the "wait" cursor being active... Turns out SketchUp was waiting for me to click.

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              hellnbak
              last edited by 14 Sept 2012, 12:48

              Anyone else have problems when copying and pasting a larger model (or even a smaller one) where the smoothed lines get randomly un-smoothed all over the pasted model (and even the copied model, which is really strange)? Can take a lot of time getting things back to where they should be.

              Just curious

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                thomthom
                last edited by 14 Sept 2012, 12:58

                @hellnbak said:

                Anyone else have problems when copying and pasting a larger model (or even a smaller one) where the smoothed lines get randomly un-smoothed all over the pasted model (and even the copied model, which is really strange)? Can take a lot of time getting things back to where they should be.

                Yes!!!!!!!!!
                Extremely annoying bug. It's not Copy+Paste - it's any operation where SketchUp becomes unresponsive for a while, stops updating - then flickers back into action. Save operation on large models can cause this. Drape etc. For this reason along I'm constantly pressing Ctrl+T - deselecting in fear of the smoothing to kick in. Whenever SketchUp works hard on something I always check if the smoothing occurred. It's undoable if you catch it immediately.

                It's reported to the SketchUp team - but it wasn't an easy thing to fix. 😞

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                  hellnbak
                  last edited by 14 Sept 2012, 13:27

                  C'mon ThomThom, you're the SketchUp Wizard, you can fix anything!

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                    Ecuadorian
                    last edited by 15 Sept 2012, 00:09

                    Add to the list of annoyances:

                    Sometimes, when importing a FormFonts model, SketchUp switches to "view extents", turns on shadows and the imported model is in the origin. 😑

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                      mitcorb
                      last edited by 15 Sept 2012, 00:14

                      May not be the same thing, but it seems I have opened some older stuff and seen hard edges where I could have sworn they were smoothed or hidden.

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                        Chris Fullmer
                        last edited by 15 Sept 2012, 21:04

                        @hellnbak said:

                        C'mon ThomThom, you're the SketchUp Wizard, you can fix anything!

                        Here's the fix Thom, ready for a new plugin to make?

                        Write a little observer that watches all edges and keeps a hash of every edge's soft/smooth setting. Then have a button the user can click that will re-apply those settings to the model. So it would just iterate back through the model's edges and apply what it has in the hash to the edge. If it doesn't have that edge in the hash (like from a paste function), it just skips it.

                        Though I see there would be problems if its an observer auto updating itself and then losing the "correct" setting that you want to revert to. So I'm not sure how you manage that.... oh well.

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                          thomthom
                          last edited by 16 Sept 2012, 01:41

                          Sorry Chris, but, what's wrong with Ctrl+Z?

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                            Chris Fullmer
                            last edited by 16 Sept 2012, 02:06

                            Oh, I was thinking if you went quite a few steps forward before you noticed and you didn't want to ctrl-z back and undo things.

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                              thomthom
                              last edited by 16 Sept 2012, 08:05

                              Yea - that is the risk. But how can you be sure there was no smoothing done afterward on something else that was intended.

                              Mind you - you could make a smoothing lock plugin. Say when you have a large terrain model or other large mesh which you have carefully smoothed and is in high risk of suffer from this glitch. You could store the soft+smooth state as an attribute in the Locking function. Then, if you find the mesh to have been messed up you can restore it. Only thing - I'm getting the impression that attributes to lots of entities can quicly increase filesize. (Need to check by how much.)

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                                DesertRaven
                                last edited by 8 Feb 2015, 00:40

                                This slow down also happens when you create your first component in a session. The worst is when you copy paste lines imported from CAD. There must be a bottleneck somewhere in the memory management.
                                I'm already happy it's come so far, 64 bit and the fast display of large models.

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                                  monkers
                                  last edited by 24 Sept 2015, 17:06

                                  Anyone know why copying something in sketchup takes for ever but move+ctrl to duplicate there is no hang time. Is it something to do with spooling it to the clipboard? If so is there a way to make the clipboard faster? ei. changing the directory to a ram disk or something?

                                  I've actually got use to move+ctrl rather than copy but there's certain instances where I cant get away with it. Mainly when I cut something out I want to paste out/into another group, so its not duplicating the geometry.

                                  cheers

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                                    onzki
                                    last edited by 19 Jan 2017, 07:28

                                    Hello! Resurrecting an old issue πŸ˜„ I am using the latest 2017 version, and still has this problem, although it is selective, only experienced on certain files. Reason is still unknown. I am copying a partial model, about 5MB only and it takes forever to paste it into the host file (not responding).


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                                    • josephkim626J Offline
                                      josephkim626
                                      last edited by 4 Aug 2017, 13:23

                                      I too have this issue which is new in 2017 version.

                                      I suspect it has to do with lines and faces having their own identification, but not sure as my knowledge is limited. Any way I can bypass or force the process to be quicker?

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                                        Garry K
                                        last edited by 4 Aug 2017, 14:49

                                        Just to rule this out - why don't you update your graphics driver.

                                        I had a very similar problem - creating first component as a copy and paste or simply creating a component from scratch. The bigger the model the longer it took. I updated my NVidia drivers and the problem disappeared.

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                                          josephkim626
                                          last edited by 4 Aug 2017, 14:55

                                          Will do, and see if it makes any difference.

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