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    • TeigT Offline
      Teig
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      More study required...

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      • TeigT Offline
        Teig
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        I'm back again πŸ˜„
        I'm on version 34 (or so) now. After a lot of research reading mind-boggling papers on how to optimise the design I have changed my design slightly.

        I'm having problems with the Follow Me tool again, it won't do this:

        BellmouthRoundlip45Rv34.jpg

        Is there any way I can make it work? I've tried it a few ways on different radius circles to follow, but it will not have it. I've tried it with half-circles and solid circles, this version is trying to be hollow to save weight. Anyone have any ideas?

        v6 for Pilou πŸ˜„: BellmouthRoundlip45Rv34.jpg


        BellmouthRoundlip45Rv34.skp

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        • cottyC Offline
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          Moved the face away from the other geometry and scaled the model up (1000x)...

          follow34.jpg

          my SketchUp gallery

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          • pilouP Offline
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            @unknownuser said:

            v6 for Pilou

            Not just for me but for all users who have not the same up version than you! πŸ˜‰

            PS you are making an engine in 3D Printing ?
            What will be the fuel ? And for what vehicle ?

            Frenchy Pilou
            Is beautiful that please without concept!
            My Little site :)

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            • TeigT Offline
              Teig
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              @cotty said:

              Moved the face away from the other geometry and scaled the model up (1000x)...

              [attachment=0:1vs06ddx]<!-- ia0 -->follow34.jpg<!-- ia0 -->[/attachment:1vs06ddx]

              That looks brilliant.

              Err.. How do I move a face away from the other geometry? Every time I try I get little 'strings' attached that just stretch out.

              And the scale tool. Sorry for sounding stupid but if I scale it by a 1000x what do I sale by to get back to my dimensions?

              Thanks.

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              • TeigT Offline
                Teig
                last edited by

                @pilou said:

                @unknownuser said:

                v6 for Pilou

                Not just for me but for all users who have not the same up version than you! πŸ˜‰

                PS you are making an engine in 3D Printing ?
                What will be the fuel ? And for what vehicle ?

                Yes, it's to go on the carburettor intake on a petrol powered 1976 Austin Mini, my daily drive. πŸ˜„

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                • D Offline
                  d12dozr
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                  Carsten (cotty) did it exactly how I would have πŸ‘

                  @teig said:

                  And the scale tool. Sorry for sounding stupid but if I scale it by a 1000x what do I sale by to get back to my dimensions?

                  .001

                  You can also use the Tape Measure tool to quickly and accurately scale a model.

                  It's neat to watch your design iterations gradually improve 😎

                  3D Printing with SketchUp Book
                  http://goo.gl/f7ooYh

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                  • TeigT Offline
                    Teig
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                    @d12dozr said:

                    Carsten (cotty) did it exactly how I would have πŸ‘

                    @teig said:

                    And the scale tool. Sorry for sounding stupid but if I scale it by a 1000x what do I sale by to get back to my dimensions?

                    .0001

                    If you look at p. 36 of my book, I explain how to use the Tape Measure tool and a reference line to quickly and accurately scale a model.

                    It's neat to watch your design iterations gradually improve 😎

                    Thanks a lot Marcus, I knew it had to be some amount of 000s πŸ˜„ It is one mighty learning curve, I'm sure a hotel would be an easier way to get started πŸ˜„

                    I'll go look at your book now, I haven't had much time to myself recently.

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                    • D Offline
                      d12dozr
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                      Hey Teig, I messed up the first time around...it should be .001. Sorry, I edited my post, but you already caught it.

                      Also the way to move the geometry is to draw a line separating the piece you want to follow-me, then group it for moving (or copy it and erase the original).

                      3D Printing with SketchUp Book
                      http://goo.gl/f7ooYh

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                      • BoxB Offline
                        Box
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                        And while you are at it, you can make the piece a component, then scale a copy up to do your edits, then delete the large copy and the edits will have worked on the small version.

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                        • TeigT Offline
                          Teig
                          last edited by

                          @d12dozr said:

                          Hey Teig, I messed up the first time around...it should be .001. Sorry, I edited my post, but you already caught it.

                          Also the way to move the geometry is to draw a line separating the piece you want to follow-me, then group it for moving (or copy it and erase the original).

                          Ah, OK, I wondered about your zeros but bowed to your wisdom πŸ˜„ I've scaled it all up, I couldn't figure out how to separate the two parts so ran the Follow Me, it worked πŸ˜„ But... it wasn't solid so I ran SolidSolver which is really struggling at present and has been stuck on the Spinning Beachball of Doom for 10 minutes. Here's hoping... πŸ˜•

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                          • TeigT Offline
                            Teig
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                            @box said:

                            And while you are at it, you can make the piece a component, then scale a copy up to do your edits, then delete the large copy and the edits will have worked on the small version.

                            Oh yeah??? That sounds like a great system! Let me get this correct... So the times when Follow Me won't work on my tiny component will work on the scaled up? And affect the edits on the tiny copy? Wow!

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                            • BoxB Offline
                              Box
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                              yep

                              Here's one I made earlier.


                              Scale.gif

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                              • TeigT Offline
                                Teig
                                last edited by

                                Thanks Box, I'll try that at some point.

                                For now SolidSolver reports a co-planer edge and isn't solid πŸ˜• How do I spot and correct this edge?

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                                  Box
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                                  Have a go with Thomthom's new Solid Inspector, it will find them, highlight them and fix them for you.
                                  http://sketchucation.com/pluginstore?pln=tt_solid_inspector2

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                                    @box said:

                                    Have a go with Thomthom's new Solid Inspector, it will find them, highlight them and fix them for you.
                                    http://sketchucation.com/pluginstore?pln=tt_solid_inspector2

                                    Thanks again Box, downloaded and installed. One thing that's bugging me, how much to donate for these plugins? I am grateful for them but have stalled on donating for this reason.

                                    The Solid inspector can't fix my item "Some errors could not be automatically fixed. Manually inspect and correct the errors, then run the tool again." Something about borders and mesh?

                                    And now my .skp file is too large to upload... πŸ˜•

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                                      Box
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                                      Donations are something different for everyone, "to each according to his need" is the old saying, whatever you feel comfortable with, nothing is too small or large.

                                      Have you purged your model, it may be bloated. Window/Model Info/Statistics Purge unused.

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                                        Teig
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                                        @box said:

                                        Donations are something different for everyone, "to each according to his need" is the old saying, whatever you feel comfortable with, nothing is too small or large.

                                        Have you purged your model, it may be bloated. Window/Model Info/Statistics Purge unused.

                                        OK, I'll settle on something for a donation.
                                        I have purged it but it's not having it.
                                        The bad news now is my MBP has run out off power and I forgot to bring my charter in to work this morning, also all the servers are offline for the office computers so no more Sketchup for me for know, phone only 😞

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                                        • TeigT Offline
                                          Teig
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                                          Stuck again! πŸ˜•

                                          I seem to have an odd edge and I'm not sure how to get rid of it. Also strange faces inside the model. The file is too large for the SU forum here so I have loaded it to Drive, this is the link for it if anyone can help?

                                          Page Not Found

                                          Web word processing, presentations and spreadsheets

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                                          (drive.google.com)

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                                          • BoxB Offline
                                            Box
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                                            You've got a few odd things going on in there.
                                            The first one, simple error, you triple clicked on the surface and made everything a group, problem is the inner tube isn't connected to the outer surface so it didn't get selected. So it's not part of the group.
                                            Innertube.JPG
                                            The second and more troublesome thing is somehow you have produce an overlap in your throat, and some extra faces.
                                            If you look inside near the drill holes you can see the double edges and twisted lines.
                                            Inside.JPG
                                            I've given you a cleaned one for comparison.


                                            BellmouthSolid.zip

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