Sketchup ur Space & Sketchup 4 Architect stolen content
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I don't care how many hits they get. If we don't speak about this publicly it will never get dealt with.
They are allowed to get all the hits they want, they shouldn't steal other people's content though. This is one of the best forums for getting the word out.
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I tend to disagree
This tactic they employ of recycling good copy from knowledgeable users into their own content is not something to ignore.
There are multiple occasions where I have spent hrs writing a detailed tut to only see it repeated elsewhere.
That alone hinders me in creating more detailed content which means users lose out.
Brushing this away is not the answer. Publicly educating these 'SketchUp Promoters' that mimicry isn't allowed or flattering.
By educating I don't mean to witch hunt them but to actually let them know that my shared content is still my content. Credit me, ask me or tell me you are using it. Don't just cut, copy and paste it and make revenue from it.
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You've got me wrong, I think they should be wiped from the face of the earth..I was merely saying 'the unfortunate downside' is that more people will go and look at the site, generating more revenue for them, while those they steal from have to struggle against them.
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agreed...
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So continue to let the dog shit in your garden with the hope that it will stop at some point?
Weird logic.
My attitude is educate not ignore.
They have used the PM system, twitter, facebook to harrass me in the past to promote their channel.
This isn't an overnight problem but a longterm campaign by their content creators to hijack others content.
I don't care if a million people visit the site based of me saying that they shouldn't. My point is to let Professional SketchUp users know that what they digest there is other people's content that is not credited.
I'm not interested in good or bad press. I'm interested in seeing people given credit where credit is due.
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Arrrrgh, I agree with everything you are saying!!!! I don't think it should be ignored!!! I agree that something needs to be done and it should be yelled from the top of the highest peak, But, and it's a very tiny but, I was simply saying that while posting here is a good thing to help educate people to this practice, the very nature of people going to look at it so they know what to guard against increases their hits and therefore their revenue, at least in the short term. If only there was a way for people not to have to visit the site to understand.
Surfing is great fun, but one unfortunate downside to it can be getting sunburnt. Doesn't mean you shouldn't go surfing.
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It is SketchUpUrSpace I want to educate not members here. I certainly don't want to see them 'wiped of the face of the planet'.
They need to know that it is not a nice practice.
Telling people here that my content copy was used elsewhere might cause that person to say...
'Hey, Rich doesn't deserve to have his tutorials posted elsewhere. I am going to give them a piece of my mind about that'
Instead, I get some dude going 'Arrggh' cause he thinks I don't know what he is saying. Great.
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I'm quite happy for you to delete this whole conversation.
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I totally agree with Box's point. Sites like these only live for traffic, they don't give a rats a$$ where they get their content from. In their minds, any exposure is good exposure. I don't imagine they really care what we say about them here as long as it drive traffic to their site.
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@Box, I get what you're saying...one thing that would help NOT drive traffic to their site is to make your link in the 2nd post of this thread not clickable.
I too have experienced Rajib copying an article I wrote and reposting it on his site. He removed it after Matt from MasterSketchup and I emailed him asking him to remove it. I refused to create content for their site after seeing how shabby the site was run.
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Very dodgy. Appalling spilling und grandma
A link to an old version of Sketchucation Store plugin without the ability to download.
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It's not just traffic we're discussing.
It's perfectly ok for someone to say 'hey, just ignore it. Move on'
But this is just a small example of the stuff that devalues good contributions.
There's another thread running on this forum where a member is complaining about commercial plugins not working in 2015.
This same member actively pirates and shares pirated software elsewhere.
Another member translates plugins so that they can get access to commercial betas tests to then crack and distribute.
Currently 90% of the free plugins available on the PluginStore are under a subscription system in China.
I can't ignore that approach to others hard work and talent.
Much the same as someone robbing a rendered image or model etc.
I know we can't police the Internet but we can educate those that make their own rules.
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Rich, what these guys are doing is almost the opposite of what you describe. They want exposure, whereas pirates want to hide and sneak around. Nobody should ignore the stolen content, I don't think anyone who's posted has said that. I think the response needs to be different for this case - IMO it's better to bombard them with removal requests and ask everyone we know to boycott and provide negative reviews of the site where possible. BUT, avoid giving them traffic as much as possible.
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Yeah. I totally agree. I just wanted to give u guys a heads up on the type of activity this community faces daily.
I look at duplication of any content as a bad thing that affects everyone of us.
Ideally I'd like to see all the members that SketchUpUrSpace lie to everyday posting here and learning from fellow pro users.
But I think I'm deluded in that regard.
I do side with Matt and Eric on this one though.
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I've got to agree with Rich on this one... They are allowed to make money on the internet. If they want to create their own content and then sell ads against that, they are totally in the right to do so. That's how this site operates after all. Look how great the value is here. I don't mind the ads at all, I even click on them from time to time because there is a great community here.
Stealing is a whole different ballgame...
Yes, us talking about it here generates more traffic, but educating people about them is important. If everyone silently sits around and lets them take content, they'll just keep doing it more and more. When I first decided to post this, I emailed a few people that I know that had content they created in their site. In almost every case those content creators (read: Real SketchUp users that created great content) were unaware that they had been a victim.
Now that we are all starting to make people aware we can collectively police them.
And besides, if we generate a few more hits for them, who's going to want to really go there anyway? The site is terrible. It's full of mis-information and spelling errors. There is little to no value in it anyway. If people find the site through us, they'll probably come back here for real help and content anyway.
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An easy place for you all to look is here:
Google Sketchup updates !
SketchUp4architect.com is the worlds largest portal on Trimble SketchUp Materials, Plugins, Components, Models Library.
(sketchup3dcomponent.blogspot.com)
If you see any articles, images, or quotes that are stolen you can report them here:
https://support.google.com/blogger/answer/42577?hl=en%26amp;ref_topic=3030094
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Just do you guys are aware of how much they infringe, this is a snippet of an email I just sent to Rajib Dey, the man who seems to be the perpetrator of a lot of this infrnigement. This list is just what I found TODAY:
The message:
Remove my images from your Pinterest account:
170 Sketchup 3D modeling ideas | google sketchup, fast tutorial, 3d modeling programs
Dec 27, 2012 - Explore Rajib Dey's board "Sketchup 3D modeling" on Pinterest. See more ideas about google sketchup, fast tutorial, 3d modeling programs.
Pinterest (www.pinterest.com)
My images, and name were used here without my permission, remove them as well.
Sketchup4architect : Sorry, the requested page was not found
Sketchup4architect - It looks like the page you requested could not be found.
(www.sketchup4architect.com)
Remove this one as well:
Sketchup4architect : Sorry, the requested page was not found
Sketchup4architect - It looks like the page you requested could not be found.
(www.sketchup4architect.com)
And this one: (While you're in this one, remove the image you used on introducing Sketchup 2015, that's Matt Donley's. I'll let him know you stole it.
Here you are representing me as part of your organization, this is not true. Remove this as well:
You were supposed to have removed this article and you did not:
Shaderlight for sketchup – Sketchup World
Posts about Shaderlight for sketchup written by Global Associates
Sketchup World (arka48.wordpress.com)
You can also remove my name from this article as well.
The sketchup team of Global Associates just launched the january issue of the exclusive magazine "Sketchup Ur Space"
SketchUp4architect.com is the worlds largest portal on Trimble SketchUp Materials, Plugins, Components, Models Library.
(sketchup3dcomponent.blogspot.com)
This page as well:
And this one:
Page not found – Sketchup World
SketchUp4architect.com is the world's largest portal on Trimble SketchUp Materials, Plugins, Components, Models Library. Browse and enjoy by downloading all SketchUp updated plugins free versions and Trimble SketchUp Components.
(arka48.wordpress.com)
This is ridiculous. Consider your self lucky that I am only asking you to remove content and not seeking legal action.
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Alright guys, here's a great site that tracks all the theft that these guys have perpetrated. It also has resources to help you find out if you've been a victim, and report it.
I had to chuckle at the URL.
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Good Job Eric... Fight the good fight.
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Give 'em hell!!!
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