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    • jeff hammondJ Offline
      jeff hammond
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      @freebs said:

      Maximize in Yosemite can be controlled: Click the green button and you'll get OS X Fullscreen mode on any app, by default. If you hold down Option while clicking the green button, you get the more familiar Maximize window, while leaving the Menus visible.

      hmm.. are you sure about that?

      my understanding is that the full screen icon which used to be at the top right has been moved to the green button.. if you push option, it changes to the old + (zoom)..

      but, the application needs to be coded as a full screen application in order for it to go full screen.. sketchup isn't a full screen app..
      or are you saying that you can make sketchup full screen? (john's example doesn't count.. he's a tinkerer πŸ˜‰ )

      dotdotdot

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      • jeff hammondJ Offline
        jeff hammond
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        @mike lucey said:

        I'm going to tread softly with regard to upgrading to Yosemite until all the wrinkles are ironed out.

        remember apple started doing a public beta with the operating system this year.. so a lot of the wrinkles are already ironed out..

        i welcome the public beta if they're going to continue doing yearly releases of the OS.. otherwise, it's wait til .2 or .3... then by that time, another 10.x release is almost ready πŸ˜‰

        dotdotdot

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        • D Offline
          driven
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          If your running SU v13, Yosemite, may create additional bugsplats as it no longer includes Ruby 1.8...

          SU v13 does run, but some plugins that do call that directly may cause bugsplats...

          so, update to v14 on Mavericks, get everything stable then switch to Yosemite...

          or do both at the same time, it seems fairly stable.

          john

          learn from the mistakes of others, you may not live long enough to make them all yourself...

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          • TandemT Offline
            Tandem
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            Few important topics on the SketchUp forum for anyone considering upgrading to Yosemite or buying a new Mac:

            Should I upgrade to OS X Yosemite?

            Crash after updating Mac OS X

            How Soon Till SketchUp Works with Yosemite

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            • mariochaM Offline
              mariocha
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              @driven said:

              @driven said:

              There is an issue with 3DText and attempting to open the Fonts window...

              Narrowed this down to simply trying to open the Font Dialog

              Well, here, it did crash on first attempt, opening 2 debug windows asking for password ( I cancelled), but once SU reopened works fine. Could it be one of your font is bad ?

              I had a problem customizing the top toolbar thought. I could not drag any element to it. Again quit and relaunch solved it.
              But non-SU-native icons, i.e. icons of plugins, do not stay up there after quitting SU. Even after closing window and reopening. 😞
              update: I've tested SU for 1 1/2 hour and everything else seems ok, including my plugins.
              update: Tested on my laptop, all is fine. (French version on both machines)

              %(#008000)[Mario C.
              Every rule has exceptions, but some.]

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                driven
                last edited by

                SketchUp v2015 is Yosemite compatible, and noticeably faster...

                Worth upgrading to both in my opinion...

                john

                learn from the mistakes of others, you may not live long enough to make them all yourself...

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                • mariochaM Offline
                  mariocha
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                  Yessss !!! SU 2015 finally corrects the icons not sticking in the top toolbar !!
                  Transferred my plugins and only one load error; 3Dxconnexion (v.10-2-0_r1807). It's in the root Library. Maybe I did something wrong.


                  one error.png

                  %(#008000)[Mario C.
                  Every rule has exceptions, but some.]

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                    driven
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                    @mariocha said:

                    ... Maybe I did something wrong.

                    No it's a 32bit .bundle, so remove the bundle, it my work as I think it's 64bit by default...

                    or so you need to see if they have a special SU 64bit version available yet...

                    john

                    learn from the mistakes of others, you may not live long enough to make them all yourself...

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                      slbaumgartner
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                      @driven said:

                      @mariocha said:

                      ... Maybe I did something wrong.

                      No it's a 32bit .bundle, so remove the bundle, it my work as I think it's 64bit by default...

                      or so you need to see if they have a special SU 64bit version available yet...

                      john

                      I read on SketchUp Community that 3DConnection have yet to release a Yosemite-compatible driver, but supposedly it is coming soon...

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                      • mariochaM Offline
                        mariocha
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                        john
                        @unknownuser said:

                        I read on SketchUp Community that 3DConnection have yet to release a Yosemite-compatible driver, but supposedly it is coming soon...

                        I hope so cause, although removing the .bundle does prevent the error message, the device is still not functional.

                        %(#008000)[Mario C.
                        Every rule has exceptions, but some.]

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                          driven
                          last edited by

                          I had to buy a new mouse for Yosemite, but that's not quite the same thing...
                          do you use it with other 64bit programs?
                          i.e. do you have the regular mac driver installed?

                          john

                          learn from the mistakes of others, you may not live long enough to make them all yourself...

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                          • mariochaM Offline
                            mariocha
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                            Well, yes. Is there another one than the regular OS X driver I mentioned earlier (v.10-2-0_r1807) ?
                            I'm using a Space Navigator. It works in Google earth, 64bit ?, I do not know.
                            Update: a new driver is available ; 3DxWareMac_v10-2-1_r1861.dmg

                            %(#008000)[Mario C.
                            Every rule has exceptions, but some.]

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                              cacowan
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                              I have the problem that I can't get SketchUp to open a "finder" style window on Yosemite. Sketchup 2015. Completely wiped the computer a week ago and did a clean install of Yosemite because the 2011 Macbook Pro was taking 5 minutes to boot up. Now SketchUp won't open a window to find textures, files to open, components to add to library... nothing without shutting down the program each time, and then I can only get ONE instance of a "finder" window to open before it hangs again. This didn't happen prior to the clean install, so I don't know if it was a function of the previous OS (Maverics, Lion, etc) being on the hard drive, or previous versions of SketchUp being there. It also crashed with every attempt at using a font outside of Arial for an extruded font today. I can't add textures, or open texture libraries. I can't add components from a library or open other libraries without quitting SketchUp and restarting each time. I've got the same issue with Layout. Can't insert a file because it won't open a "finder" window to locate it without closing the program and re-starting it. MADNESS!!!!

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                                driven
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                                First have you tried relaunching 'Finder' [ Alt + Right Click 'Finder' in 'Dock']...

                                Is 'Finder' working from other Apps? i.e. try 'Preview' and any non-Apple app...

                                Is SU installed in the Default location? i.e. Applications folder

                                Was SU a 'fresh' download and install?

                                If you open SU, and then use menu 'File' >> 'Open', is that working?

                                We need to ascertain if it's Finder or SU that's failing...

                                john

                                learn from the mistakes of others, you may not live long enough to make them all yourself...

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                                • tuna1957T Offline
                                  tuna1957
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                                  F.W.I.W. , the 2011 macbook pros have a history of frying the logic board/ graphics cards. I know from personal experiance! I wonder if that issue could be contributing to your problems?

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                                    cacowan
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                                    I've seen the same problem described better on another site. Same conditions... A clean Yosemite OS. And a new download of Sketchup. It's not "Finder" that's crashing. It's the "in program " access to the file system. So in Layout, it won't create the window that accesses the file list more than once. In sketchup, it won't create the window that accesses a texture list or when you want to add a local component library... It won't create the window that accesses the file system to locate the reference file more than once.
                                    I've rolled back to Maverics until this is solved. I wonder... Just prior to wiping the computer there was a OS Yosemite update. It included a security update and it might be what slowed the startup on my Mac. On reinstalling Sketchup on Mac , there's always that caution that you're opening a program that is downloaded from the internet. What if it's the OS interfering with the program accessing the file system because it's not recognizing the app author?

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                                      slbaumgartner
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                                      @cacowan said:

                                      I've seen the same problem described better on another site. Same conditions... A clean Yosemite OS. And a new download of Sketchup. It's not "Finder" that's crashing. It's the "in program " access to the file system. So in Layout, it won't create the window that accesses the file list more than once. In sketchup, it won't create the window that accesses a texture list or when you want to add a local component library... It won't create the window that accesses the file system to locate the reference file more than once.
                                      I've rolled back to Maverics until this is solved. I wonder... Just prior to wiping the computer there was a OS Yosemite update. It included a security update and it might be what slowed the startup on my Mac. On reinstalling Sketchup on Mac , there's always that caution that you're opening a program that is downloaded from the internet. What if it's the OS interfering with the program accessing the file system because it's not recognizing the app author?

                                      Most strange! This is not happening to me with the latest Yosemite and SU, so obviously it is something specific to your system...but what? Have you looked in the console logs to see if there is a flood of messages when these things happen?

                                      I doubt a security issue over the app author would slow things down. When I've seen such problems, there is a dialog that pops up and blocks the app completely until you give permission to proceed.

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