Skalp - Dynamic Sections Plugin released
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@jql said:
Well, I need something like this...
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You can make something like that with Skalp for sure. You would have a thick outline around each material that is cut through though, instead of the outline around the outer edge of the walls/floor/stairs as shown in your drawing. Also, no clear way of showing cuts of rough sawn timber (the one with the single cross), but you would expect that, I guess.
I haven't experimented with using textures instead of hatches for section cuts yet, but I know it is possible.
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@tommyk said:
I haven't experimented with using textures instead of hatches for section cuts yet, but I know it is possible.
It is actually easier to simply use a SketchUp material for the section cut in Skalp - create the section texture and name it appropriately then assign it as you would a hatch in the pull down menu. Normal SU materials appear below the Skalp hatches.
Skalp dynamically creates SketchUp materials, that live in the normal materials pallet, on the fly. You can see this if you change the scale in Skalp.
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Skalp v1.0 beta 6 is released...
NEW 'Pattern by Texture' Skalp Style option to use the material attached to a group / component as it's section pattern.
NEW 'Define Pattern by Layer' dialog.
NEW 'Pattern by Layer' Skalp Style option to map section patterns as defined in the new 'Define Pattern by Layer' dialog.
NEWdefault layer setting: 'Skalp Pattern Layer'. It places the section results on layers named 'Skalp Pattern Layer - <pattern name>'. these Layers are auto-created on the fly when needed.
Intended for advanced use in combination with SketchUp 'Color by Layer' setting. You need to manually attach a pattern / texture to each of these created layers. Click on the color box to the right of the layer name in the SketchUp layer dialog. This process can't be automated because the SketchUp API does not have a function to attach textures to the layers.NEW 'Create Skalp Pattern Layers' added to the menu. May be used in conjunction with the new default layer setting: 'Skalp Pattern Layer'.
NEW **'Skalp Scales'**changing the scale of a scene will now correctly scale its section patterns. This is applied to the active scene only.
NEWYou can use different units for setting the size of the pattern in the dialog
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Hi Skalp,
I'm still very curious about your plugin... Have you got island detection yet? So we can hatch a column that is inside a wall automatically?
That might be the key feature that would get me on board...
Thanks,
João
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I think there is a minor design flaw / bug with the Skalp sections planes. Skalp section planes contain visible edges around the material that it cuts through. This can be a pain in certain situations.
In the example below, each wall on each floor is in its own group (to allow working on separate floors more easily), but the bottom and top faces of each group are hidden. Sketchup's native Section tool ignores hidden faces (doesn't create a thick line denoting a cut), but these hidden faces are picked up as Skalp leaves edges around its patterns.
I would think Skalp would better make all edges in its section planes hidden, and let Sketchup's native section tool create the visible lines.
... although that may cause problems with object snapping in Layout... I'm sure a solution can be found.
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Tommy,
For faster response please send feature requests, questions, bugs, ... directly to support@skalp4sketchup.com
We will look into this problem.Regards,
The Skalp Team
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I was having an installation problem since the day i purchased, I use "regular" Windows 7 Ultimate. email the issue to them, got couple of feedbacks but it didn't seem help. I try to contact them several times....no respond.such a bad developer. at least they give me some good technical explanation regarding the issue.
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@rfox said:
I was having an installation problem since the day i purchased, I use "regular" Windows 7 Ultimate. email the issue to them, got couple of feedbacks but it didn't seem help. I try to contact them several times....no respond.such a bad developer. at least they give me some good technical explanation regarding the issue.
Can you give me your support case number. So I can look to it. I know we have some open cases regarding unicode problems (special characters in path names) and we are still looking what causes the problem windows?, ruby?, sketchup? or Skalp?
regards,
The Skalp Team.
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here it is : 451_ej9kg1g4mmq9s9c6
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Does Skalp need SketchUp 2014 to work or does it need Layout 2014? Could one use Skalp in SketchUp 2013 and then use Layout 2014 to make use of Skalp sections?
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I guess it needs SU2014 for the new API methods regarding sections.
@unknownuser said:
New! - SectionPlane additions
Please see the new API docs for how to implement these classes and methods.
Added support for creating and activating SectionPlane entities.
New methods are:
Entities.add_section_plane
Entities.active_section_plane
Entities.active_section_plane=
SectionPlane.activate
SectionPlane.active?
Added EntitiesObserver.onActiveSectionPlaneChanged
RenderingOptions now exposes a new key 'DisplaySectionPlanes' that can be used to show or hide section planes. e.g Sketchup.active_model.rendering_options['DisplaySectionPlanes'] = false -
@jiminy-billy-bob said:
I guess it needs SU2014 for the new API methods regarding sections.
@unknownuser said:
New! - SectionPlane additions
Please see the new API docs for how to implement these classes and methods.
Added support for creating and activating SectionPlane entities.
New methods are:
Entities.add_section_plane
Entities.active_section_plane
Entities.active_section_plane=
SectionPlane.activate
SectionPlane.active?
Added EntitiesObserver.onActiveSectionPlaneChanged
RenderingOptions now exposes a new key 'DisplaySectionPlanes' that can be used to show or hide section planes. e.g Sketchup.active_model.rendering_options['DisplaySectionPlanes'] = falseThis new features are feature which are implemented in SketchUp because we asked for them. But the most important reason why we only work on 2014 is ruby 2.0 and the use of the ruby standard library.
The Skalp Team.
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@krisidious said:
Does Skalp need SketchUp 2014 to work or does it need Layout 2014? Could one use Skalp in SketchUp 2013 and then use Layout 2014 to make use of Skalp sections?
No we need SketchUp 2014 and if you like you can use Layout 2013.
The Skalp Team.
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@skalp said:
But the most important reason why we only work on 2014 is ruby 2.0 and the use of the ruby standard library.
Oh man, I know what you mean
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It's SU2014 I'm reluctant to upgrade to... Layout2014 has some features I'd like to have.
Another question... I like to use a untextured/uncolored (hidden line) style for my Layout Viewports when doing construction docs. will these section materials still show up on hidden line styles?
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@krisidious said:
It's SU2014 I'm reluctant to upgrade to... Layout2014 has some features I'd like to have.
Another question... I like to use a untextured/uncolored (hidden line) style for my Layout Viewports when doing construction docs. will these section materials still show up on hidden line styles?
Krisidious,
A Skalp sections are normal SketchUp faces, with normal SketchUp textures. When using the hidden line style everything show up white even the section.
But Skalp can do a lot more...
For making construction documents we can set the model white except the section. In the above picture are just a few options. All different options can be used together in the same model and on the same section, just different scenes so you can use them on one layout (see picture)
The Skalp Team.
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@jiminy-billy-bob said:
@krisidious said:
It's SU2014 I'm reluctant to upgrade to...
Why is that?
- The cost...
- I don't really see anything in SU2014 that makes me jump up and down and say Oh I need this. (except maybe Skalp now...)
- The process of switching is rather arduous. have to reinstall everything and re-license all my paid plugins, redo all my templates, settings, toolbar locations, move all my materials, components, styles, scrapbooks, build new toolbars for Layout... blah blah blah.
- I use a lot of older plugins that might not or probably won't work in 2014, like the SCF Toolbars.
- I'm behind now and working every day with this installation and don't really have the down time to switch and get everything working.
I know I need to... I'm lazy is the biggest reason.
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@skalp said:
@krisidious said:
It's SU2014 I'm reluctant to upgrade to... Layout2014 has some features I'd like to have.
Another question... I like to use a untextured/uncolored (hidden line) style for my Layout Viewports when doing construction docs. will these section materials still show up on hidden line styles?
Krisidious,
A Skalp sections are normal SketchUp faces, with normal SketchUp textures. When using the hidden line style everything show up white even the section.
But Skalp can do a lot more...
For making construction documents we can set the model white except the section. In the above picture are just a few options. All different options can be used together in the same model and on the same section, just different scenes so you can use them on one layout (see picture)
The Skalp Team.
Thanks... That is exactly what I wanted to hear.
Currently... My process is.
- Section with Tig's section cut face.
- then I copy and paste the section into layout.
- scale it.
- place it over my scene view.
- then explode it.
- color it if I just want plain colors like black shaded walls.
- If I want materials I leave it as a scene and put it on a single layer and put the scene over the model scene.
HUGE PAIN!
Skalp would make it much easier.
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