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    shueda
    last edited by 21 Jul 2014, 20:56

    I was initially concerned that the issue had to do with materials not being mapped on both sides of surfaces, and it may be just that, but I have no idea how to map materials on specific sides of a VRMesh.

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      valerostudio
      last edited by 22 Jul 2014, 20:30

      Doesn't this have something to do with sub pixel mapping? Thought I read that on Peter Guthries blog.

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        rspierenburg
        last edited by 23 Jul 2014, 11:32

        I was thinking perhaps turbidity settings in Environment.

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          TedVitale_CG
          last edited by 24 Jul 2014, 15:05

          I would suggest not using refraction at all but rather a V-Ray two sided material instead. Two sided materials allow for light transmission with out having to use opacity settings or refraction settings.

          Take a look at the leaf material I've attached here and test it out in a sample scene. I think using a material like this will give you the desired results.


          A Simple 2-Sided V-Ray Leaf Material

          Ted Vitale
          Owner | Creative Director
          http://www.voxl.vision

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            shueda
            last edited by 24 Jul 2014, 15:17

            Thanks for the thoughts and suggestions for things to look into. I haven't gotten the issue resolved, yet. See this image for a close up of the phenomenon.


            European-Beech.jpg

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              shueda
              last edited by 24 Jul 2014, 15:31

              @tedvitale_cg said:

              I would suggest not using refraction at all but rather a V-Ray two sided material instead. Two sided materials allow for light transmission with out having to use opacity settings or refraction settings.

              Take a look at the leaf material I've attached here and test it out in a sample scene. I think using a material like this will give you the desired results.

              Thanks Ted! I'll give it a shot and report back!

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                shueda
                last edited by 24 Jul 2014, 15:59

                Here's the result using the Oak leaves shared by Ted. What the heck?


                Tree-with-Oak-Leaves.jpg

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                  TedVitale_CG
                  last edited by 24 Jul 2014, 19:51

                  How are you applying the materials? Are you painting them with the paint bucket or are you applying the double sided material with V-Ray? It looks like you used the base material not the 2 Sided. Could you possibly share the model? I'd like to take a look and see whats happening. The last thing I can think of is you're not using the cutout of the leaf so you're getting artifacts rendered from the transparency of the .png file.

                  Ted Vitale
                  Owner | Creative Director
                  http://www.voxl.vision

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                    shueda
                    last edited by 24 Jul 2014, 20:15

                    Ted,

                    I've exported VRMesh from 3DS Max, loaded the VRMessh into SketchUp, and used the Vray material editor to re-map or, as with your Oak leaves, import the materials. In addition, I've erased all of the VRMesh geometry and replaced it with a 2D always-face-camera image of the model. The tree file is apparently too large to attach to this post (15MB). Thanks for your help!!!

                    See if this link works: https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B9WMaFDh7ps6Y2hPS2k2YVdHRDg/edit?usp=sharing

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                      TedVitale_CG
                      last edited by 25 Jul 2014, 18:24

                      @shueda said:

                      Ted,

                      I've exported VRMesh from 3DS Max, loaded the VRMessh into SketchUp, and used the Vray material editor to re-map or, as with your Oak leaves, import the materials. In addition, I've erased all of the VRMesh geometry and replaced it with a 2D always-face-camera image of the model. The tree file is apparently too large to attach to this post (15MB). Thanks for your help!!!

                      See if this link works: https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B9WMaFDh7ps6Y2hPS2k2YVdHRDg/edit?usp=sharing

                      As a side note, when ever you share files from Sketchup, save them first and then go to Plugins> V-Ray> Pack Scene. This will allocate all the associated files into one zip folder. As it stands, I cant test the file you sent. I don't have the material information, or the proxy. If you re-upload the file I can take a look at it again though.

                      Ted Vitale
                      Owner | Creative Director
                      http://www.voxl.vision

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                        shueda
                        last edited by 25 Jul 2014, 18:50

                        Ted,

                        Here's the packed scene - thanks for the tip!

                        Link Preview Image

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                        (drive.google.com)

                        Greg

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                          TedVitale_CG
                          last edited by 28 Jul 2014, 17:30

                          So, after some review I finally found the problem! In your materials diffuse bitmap there is an option to "Enable double-sided mode" by default its enabled because you can apply materials to both sides of a face in Sketchup (I had mine set up like this as well, oops). Go ahead and disable it for all your leaf textures, bump maps, and transparency maps. This should help speed up your renderings as well. Let me know how it goes!

                          Updated Model:
                          https://drive.google.com/a/usa.chaosgroup.com/file/d/0B_z-28sFcwxOS1hvNjViSjBxXzA/edit?usp=sharing

                          Updated Model w/2Sided
                          https://drive.google.com/a/usa.chaosgroup.com/file/d/0B_z-28sFcwxON0hTV0N1QlgzQzQ/edit?usp=sharing

                          Ill have them up for a couple weeks and then take them down to save space in my Google drive, so download them as soon as you can.


                          Enable double-sided mode off

                          Ted Vitale
                          Owner | Creative Director
                          http://www.voxl.vision

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                            shueda
                            last edited by 14 Aug 2014, 19:50

                            OMG - you are a genius! Thank you!!!!!

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