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      cadmunkey
      last edited by

      I think I'm basically doing exactly as you posted notareal, applying the texture from my Thea material folder into sketchup then exporting to Thearender.
      For some reason the displacement map looks as if it is about 5 times too large once imported into Thea. So for example displacement on my brickwork should occur every 75mm (or 7.5cm in Thea) but it is showing at something like every 375mm, i.e. every 5th brick course. So the displaced grass that looked fine in the material editor also looks crazy within Thea after exporting from SU, the displacement is far too large. I'm not sure why the scaling of the displacement seems to be ignoring the mapping of the diffuse texture.

      I dont see those 'New Topic' icons, I knew they had to be there but for some reason they are not showing for me, must be my browser problem. I'll try my other machine later, thanks.

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        notareal
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        @cadmunkey said:

        I dont see those 'New Topic' icons, I knew they had to be there but for some reason they are not showing for me, must be my browser problem. I'll try my other machine later, thanks.

        Wonder if different forum style would work (but it would ruin the look). Firefox, IE and Safari seems to work fine for me... never tested with others, but this is the first time I hear of this kind of problem.
        Workflow sounds correct. But it could be some SU2Thea issue... get latest test exporter from http://www.thearender.com/forum/download/file.php?id=7602. Try exporting without "Export Model's hierarchy" (it's know to cause issues). If that does not help, I think a simple example is in need... a scene tells more that thousand words πŸ˜‰

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          cadmunkey
          last edited by

          Tried the beta version and still the same result.
          Here are screenies to show the result:
          First screenshot in the material editor, quite clearly shows displacement correctly. Second showing what happens when exporting into Thea from sketchup using the same material.
          The brick texture is fine, but the displacement map just completely goes nuts...


          Screen1


          Screen2

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            notareal
            last edited by

            It's hard to say what's going on by just looking the picture. Maybe sub division is too low... but that does not explain why displacement is in that scale.
            Have you used any subdivision for the wall mesh (in SU)? Maybe you could post the Thea scene as pack.thea.

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              cadmunkey
              last edited by

              I tried subdividing the scene but it made no difference to the brickwork at all. On the grass all it did was introduce artifacts. The test scene I have emailed to the Thea developers doesnt have subdivided geometry as it didnt change the outcome.
              Cheers.

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                notareal
                last edited by

                Had no change to look on that yet, but giannis will look on it. Here is a quick test, using flagstone texture for the test.

                Workflow like described before.
                Model, import bitmap as texture, apply/scale texture (I used projected texture in example, but it's fine without it).
                Apply Thea material with SU2Thea and export.
                In attached render I emphasis displacement a bit.
                Note: set model geometry to "smooth" (right click, Geometry > Smoothing) when using displacement. Also for angular objects, it's good turn off "Normal Smoothing" under displacement properties.


                Flagstone_test.jpg


                Flagstone_test.skp


                Contains Flagstone_test.pack.thea and Flagstone.mat.pack

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                  nursill
                  last edited by

                  People pls help. I have a problem, when i do model in SU and export to the the THEA, add material and then look likes... on the wall build lines


                  http://s018.radikal.ru/i513/1301/8b/023a18de3f31.jpg

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                    tomasz
                    last edited by

                    In general it is better to apply all textures inside SketchUp.

                    If you have to do it in Thea Studio, then use cubic mapping for the piece of the model you have applied the new material (Tools/Transform Tool/Mapping Icon/Cubic).

                    I suggest you checking new integrated Thea for SketchUp!

                    Author of [Thea Render for SketchUp](http://www.thearender.com/sketchup)

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                      gafia
                      last edited by

                      I have problem in scatter part in Thea Render Material Lap
                      i cant see it and it not working
                      i am asking if i need some program for make it working right

                      please answer me πŸ˜„


                      Capture.PNG

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                        solo
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                        @gafia said:

                        I have problem in scatter part in Thea Render Material Lap
                        i cant see it and it not working
                        i am asking if i need some program for make it working right

                        please answer me πŸ˜„

                        You have a blank scene, try adding the material to a shape, a plane or something then check again.

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                          gafia
                          last edited by

                          i did that
                          and not working it was working before i recover the laptop i guess its about the system files

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                            notareal
                            last edited by

                            I'd try to reinstall Thea if you have not done so. Are you using latest RV
                            http://www.thearender.com/cms/index.php/downloads/thea-render.html remember also get latest presto GPU (if you have nvidia GPU) http://www.thearender.com/cms/index.php/downloads/presto-gpu.html

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                              gafia
                              last edited by

                              i have the latest version and i tried all versions
                              not working right " sorry about my english "

                              i have this problem in other CPU and this LapTop
                              but it work right in other LapTop
                              and i am afraid to uninstall it from it cause if i re install and get that am going to be disappoints

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                                gafia
                                last edited by

                                Note : i have registration but i didnt put it
                                i tried ro recover laptop and have same problem
                                i tried to update windows and the same thing and graphics card too

                                i tried many things nothing work
                                i need solution


                                ssss.PNG

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                                  gafia
                                  last edited by

                                  Thanks for all and especially "notareal"
                                  it work now i download the links and it working very good thanks again


                                  ssssssss.PNG

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                                    Cittizewn
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                                    cadmunkey... did you fix you problem with displacement map?

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                                      cadmunkey
                                      last edited by

                                      @cittizewn said:

                                      cadmunkey... did you fix you problem with displacement map?

                                      Hi, that was over 4 years ago! I didnt sort it at the time but I know displacement works well in Thea now, but to be honest I never use it anymore.

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                                        JQL
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                                        @cittizewn said:

                                        cadmunkey... did you fix you problem with displacement map?

                                        Are you having trouble with displacement yourself Cittizewn?

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                                          Cittizewn
                                          last edited by

                                          Yes, my difuse map scale and displacemente map scale are not de same somehow. if i change the texture scale in sketchup somehow the displacemente scale of my displacemente map dont match afterwards.
                                          How should i do do get same scales in dif and displa? change scales in sketchup first or in thea material studio?

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                                            JQL
                                            last edited by

                                            Verify if the following settings are the same with that material for both diffuse, displacement, and all other maps:

                                            (click the gif)

                                            Verify this settings.gif

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