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    [Plugin] RichSection V0.5.8 UPDATED march 2015

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    • jolranJ Offline
      jolran
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      @unknownuser said:

      I was thinking in LO I might want to explode the scene and apply a different line style but I now see that RichSections don't display in vector mode. 😞

      You do know that you can do this in Hatchfaces ? If you want real edges as hatches from section slice that is.

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        ArCAD-UK
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        @jolran said:

        You do know that you can do this in Hatchfaces ? If you want real edges as hatches from section slice that is.

        I will have a look at that thanks! I'm not a fan of raster hatching...

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          jolran
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          Check out the help files, if that does not work for you, you can PM me and fire the questions. Or if you rather post a question in Hatchafaces topic thats fine too.

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            pgarmyn
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            @arcad-uk said:

            Last night my first section entry [XL01] was replaced with [XL0001] today everything seems ok 😕 I may have used "undo" and messed things up.

            There is a lot going on when creating an RS, can I do a complete undo with 1 click?

            I was thinking in LO I might want to explode the scene and apply a different line style but I now see that RichSections don't display in vector mode. (

            Undo : I can't undo scenes and styles loaded (from file). The SU API for Ruby has no functions to create them from scratch. I have to load them from a file. No way, at my knowledge, to include this in the undo DB (within start and commit_operation).

            Controle vector output (with color and line style) to Layout : I can only dream of it. 😉

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              pgarmyn
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              Hi TIG, micione and others...

              As I said before (see 'TO BE CONTINUED'), I loaded the free version (Windowizer3, W3) and did some testing.
              As the Bugsplat takes place after a commit_operation in the RichSection plugin (without 'other' errors), I tried to find the conflict in the W3 code.
              I didn't find anything directly in common with the RichSection plugin, but I found these anomalies:

              • def getMaterials is a root method declared twice : once in windowizer,rb, once in getMaterials.rb; Even if the 'require getMaterials,rb' is comment out; the file is automatically loaded because it is directly in the Sketchup/plugins
              • The following classes are extended : Array, Sketchup::Face, Sketchup::Entity; Sketchup::ArcCurve; Sketchup::Curve
              • many Global variables
              • the global variable $wName is once a string [=Wdw.new.to_s.slice(6..14)] and later an empty class object [=Wdw.new]…..
                I tried to clean up the code for testing, but I can't see the end of it.

              As there is nothing specificly in common with RS (I mean : in common with RS but not with other plugins), I cleaned up the plugin directory and installed only Windowizer3 + Fredo's RoundCorner

              It works fine for a (very) small model.
              But for more a more complex models (50 identical component-instances: in total (nested) about 9500 edges, 3300 faces), I had directly a Bug-splat when creating round corners around one face within the component.
              I uninstalled Windowizer3 (the files) and did the same manipulation : Eventing worked fine.
              I think that the plugins of Fredo are a reference for the Sketchup community.

              CONCLUSION : Windowizer 3 is not a stable plugin. I didn't spent my money to test the payed version ….

              Windowizer is not distributed on Sketchucation, but maybee it is important to tell people that it causes Bugsplats in other plugins.

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              • ladcweiL Offline
                ladcwei
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                I am waiting for this plugin for five years,then I could handle whole design with Su &layout completely today!Thanks a lot!
                It's another plugin for sections:
                http://www.sublog.net/?s=realsection
                it could assign diffferent materials to different grounps,maybe it could give some useful ideas...
                I am chinese,you can download this plugin on http://www.sublog.net for free,needn't to pay,this site show all the resourse here,it's a good guide! 😄

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                  pgarmyn
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                  @ladcwei said:

                  ....http://www.sublog.net/?s=realsection
                  it could assign diffferent materials to different grounps,maybe it could give some useful ideas...

                  Hallo ladcwei

                  You can also assign different materials in the RichSection plugin: by layer, by nature (color) or a combination.
                  It's much faster than assigning materials to individual elements, but you will have to organize your model and use different layers to assign different section-materials.

                  I know realSection (GWD), there is also SectionCutface (TIG), and other good plugins.
                  Each plugin is different. I wanted to offer projection.
                  [highlight=#ffff40:y89ppu1f]So what were you waiting for during 5 years ? ❓ ❓[/highlight:y89ppu1f]

                  Thanks for the interest.

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                    pgarmyn
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                    I added two new videos.
                    In the last video, I produced a plan with [highlight=#ffff00:3n6bzrcv]SKETCHUP + RichSection + LAYOUT[/highlight:3n6bzrcv]:

                    See video and attached PDF file (RichSection-demo-04.PDF) in the first post.

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                    • pilouP Offline
                      pilou
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                      Absolutly astonishing! 😎
                      (tested in V8)

                      Another plugin who makes bugsplatsh :wxSU.rb !!!

                      Does it posible to delete these dotted lines in the free space ?
                      ( i have not yet explore the plugin! 😳

                      Ps Why you don't say on the first post that the UI of Rich Section is working automatically also in French? ☀

                      rich2.jpg


                      rich4.skp

                      Frenchy Pilou
                      Is beautiful that please without concept!
                      My Little site :)

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                        pgarmyn
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                        @pgarmyn said:

                        @unknownuser said:

                        Absolutly astonishing! 😎
                        (tested in V8)

                        Another plugin who makes bugsplatsh :wxSU.rb !!!

                        Does it posible to delete these dotted lines in the free space ?
                        ( i have not yet explore the plugin! 😳

                        Ps Why you don't say on the first post that the UI of Rich Section is working automatically also in French? ☀

                        [attachment=1:3822h56j]<!-- ia1 -->rich2.jpg<!-- ia1 -->[/attachment:3822h56j]

                        %(#0000FF)[Bonjour Pilou. Quel honneur ❗

                        Pour enlever ces lignes, il suffit d'éteindre 'PROJECTION'. (La section calculera aussi beaucoup plus vite).
                        Dans les dessins technique (architecture), la projection représente les éléments au-dessus du plan de projection.
                        On peut aussi limiter la projection (par distance, calques). Une démonstration (distance de projection limitée) est faite dans video #03.

                        Je vais ajouter : Si la version de SU est française, elle chargera RichSection en français..]

                        For the rest of the world:

                        To take away those pointed lines, just switch off 'PROJECT'. (The section will also calculate faster).
                        In technical drawings (architecture), 'projection' represents the elements above the section-plane.
                        You can also controle wich elements are projected (by distance, layers). This is demonstrated (with projection limited by distance) in video #03.

                        For people with a french SU, the program will load a french RichSection dictionary.
                        For the rest of the world: are there traductors on this forum?

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                          pgarmyn
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                          For more important (big, complex) drawings. It is worth to use SU 2013. MUCH MUCH faster ❗ ❗ ❗

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                            pilou
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                            Excellent! 😎 👍 ☀

                            Frenchy Pilou
                            Is beautiful that please without concept!
                            My Little site :)

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                              pgarmyn
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                              deleted double message

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                                pgarmyn
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                                If someone want's to pay for my RichSection [Demo] plugin :
                                [highlight=#ffff00:2ljx047o]They sell (correction) USE it already in China:[/highlight:2ljx047o] 🤣 🤣

                                Link Preview Image
                                RichSection (增强剖切面) v0.5.8 – 紫天 SketchUp 中文网

                                作者:pgarmyn 版本:0.5.8

                                favicon

                                (www.sublog.net)

                                I can't explain much in chinese, so i added an other video (above). 😆

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                                • emerald15E Offline
                                  emerald15
                                  last edited by

                                  Thank you. I've just completed a more than usually complex drawing that required cross sections. I use RichSection to great effect. I really like all the additional optional colours, line types & infills.

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                                    pgarmyn
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                                    @emerald15 said:

                                    Thank you. I've just completed a more than usually complex drawing that required cross sections. I use RichSection to great effect. I really like all the additional optional colours, line types & infills.

                                    May we see the result ❓ 😎

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                                      ivreich
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                                      @unknownuser said:

                                      YES 😄 the 2nd video is showing that 😄
                                      Use RichSection materials 'by layer' or 'by nature' or a combination.
                                      Every RichSection can also have different section materials, by using a different 'prefix'
                                      😄

                                      Hey there..

                                      I've managed to figure out how to create different hatch patterns for objects on different layers, but I can't seem to create different hatch patterns for objects with different materials. It always goes back to the default pattern?

                                      Also, I don't quite understand the options for the richsection material - what is the difference between "prefix+layername, prefix+materialname, default" and "prefix+materialname, prefix+layername, default"?

                                      As I mentioned, I just can't seem to get material names to work in defining different hatch patterns...please help!

                                      Thanks...
                                      Joel

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                                      • ladcweiL Offline
                                        ladcwei
                                        last edited by

                                        I think it could make good effect more safely 😉


                                        金钟寺.jpg

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                                          pgarmyn
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                                          @ivreich said:

                                          ..... I don't quite understand the options for the richsection material - what is the difference between "prefix+layername, prefix+materialname, default" and "prefix+materialname, prefix+layername, default"?
                                          ...please help!

                                          Thanks...
                                          Joel

                                          Hi Joel

                                          Supposing

                                          • Model : you used layers L1 and L2

                                          • Model : you applied the following materials to groups and components : N1 and N2
                                            First possibility :

                                          • Model : existing materials in library 'in model' : #L1.... / NOT existing materials : #L2

                                          • RS-options : prefix = #

                                          • RS-options : default material = #default

                                          • RS-options : section material = prefix+layername, default

                                          • RS section materials for a group or component in layer L1 : #L1

                                          • RS section materials for a group or component in layer L2 : #default (because #L2 doesn't exist)
                                            2nd possibility :

                                          • Model : existing materials in library 'in model' : #N1.... / NOT existing materials : #N2

                                          • RS-options : prefix = #

                                          • RS-options : default material = #default

                                          • RS-options : section material = prefix+materialname, default

                                          • RS section materials for a group or component with material N1 assignd: #N1

                                          • RS section materials for a group or component with material N2 assignd: #default (because #N2 doesn't exist)

                                          Got it ❓ 😄

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                                            pgarmyn
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                                            @ladcwei said:

                                            I think it could make good effect more safely 😉

                                            👍 👍 👍 👍
                                            It seems to be a very complex model ❗ ❗ ❗
                                            What kind of building is it ? With a giant bell at the center ?
                                            Maybee the bell needs some thickness. You can do this with the Joint PushPull plugin from Fredo.

                                            Thanks for sharing your experiance.

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