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    • John SayersJ Offline
      John Sayers
      last edited by John Sayers

      Here's a door I have been working on. The grey in the background in not a background, it's a square I created because I kept getting zoomed out so far that I lost sight of my model. So I added a large square so I could see it when I was instantly zoomed out for no apparent reason.

      door1.JPG

      If I zoom in one more click on the scroll wheel I get this. This is as far as I can zoom in on this object, it's a formfont door handle.

      door2.JPG

      I'm sorry - I can't work with this. If I'm doing something wrong well fine, please point it out to me, otherwise I'm going back to Pro8 and I want my money back.

      I also had problems aligning a door this morning because it kept giving different construction line alignments along red and green axes!

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      • BoxB Offline
        Box
        last edited by

        It's called clipping and is unrelated to the SU version you are using.
        There are well documented fixes for it.
        Some of the more common:
        update your graphic drivers
        adjust your opengl settings
        check for items set a long way from the origin
        a search of the forum will find many more answers relating to it.

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        • Rich O BrienR Online
          Rich O Brien Moderator
          last edited by

          As a test in 2013...

          Open model

          Set camera to perspective

          Zoom to Extents

          Then camera to parallel

          Now zoom in.

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          • Dave RD Offline
            Dave R
            last edited by

            That'll work in SU8 and previous versions as well.

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            • Rich O BrienR Online
              Rich O Brien Moderator
              last edited by

              @dave r said:

              That'll work in SU8 and previous versions as well.

              Yep...

              Clipping is typically caused from the perspective camera location when working on normal sized models...

              When you get to larger models it is Axis related..

              It is possibly fixable by introducing a parameter to set the clipping range. But SU doesn't have this at the moment.

              Blender suffers from the same issue but you can control the clipping range...

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              • John SayersJ Offline
                John Sayers
                last edited by

                Here - I've fixed it.

                door3.JPG

                Solution - went back to Sketchup Pro 8 Trimble - same error!

                went back to Google Sketchup Pro 8 version 8.0.3117 from 2010.

                Error fixed.

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                • John SayersJ Offline
                  John Sayers
                  last edited by

                  Thanks Rich O'Brien - so simple. πŸ˜„

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                  • Rich O BrienR Online
                    Rich O Brien Moderator
                    last edited by

                    The love affair with 2013 begins.....again.....

                    Mental Note - Never switch to parallel while zoomed in close in perspective.

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                    • John SayersJ Offline
                      John Sayers
                      last edited by

                      Rich - I've been using sketchup since version 4 and I've never come across this problem before.

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                      • Dave RD Offline
                        Dave R
                        last edited by

                        John, you must be living right. I started using SketchUp with V3 and I've periodically run into it in every version. I don't often work in Parallel Projection except when creating ortho views so it doesn't happen much for me. Out of curiosity, I did a search here on this forum for 'clipping'. The earliest post that turned up is from November of 2007. I think SCF came online in October of that year.

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                        • John SayersJ Offline
                          John Sayers
                          last edited by

                          I use parallel projection everytime I export .dwg files for autoCad

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                          • S ShepherdS Offline
                            S Shepherd
                            last edited by

                            I've had some relief by going to camera>field of view and change to something like 5Β°
                            It will still clip but you can zoom in much closer.

                            SS

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                            • TIGT Offline
                              TIG Moderator
                              last edited by

                              You also sometimes get 'clipping' if you have certain things... like:

                              very large models [in dimensions]
                              very small objects [zoomed in a lot]
                              geometry that is miles from the model's origin,
                              components near the model's origin, but with their internal origin miles from their geometry [usually from CAD imports],
                              grossly scaled components [usually from CAD imports]...

                              TIG

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                              • John SayersJ Offline
                                John Sayers
                                last edited by

                                Thanks TIG - I admire your work but it's not working for me. I loaded another file into 2013 and again - involuntary zoom out to nowhere.
                                I'll just stick with Google Sketchup cos it works for me. It's my livelihood, day in day out. I've got 6 projects hanging on it and I can't afford the time to sort out the vagaries of the new Trimbale versions.

                                Check out my work here: There's my sketchup design fronting every page. I build everything, I'm not making grand streetscapes, just accurate, precise modelling, beam for beam.

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                                • TIGT Offline
                                  TIG Moderator
                                  last edited by

                                  @John

                                  This should not be a v2013 specific issue...
                                  Can you share [PM?] this problem SKP?
                                  I still suspect that you have a rogue component with something miles from the origin [perhaps CAD imported?] - so that then either the component's origin is miles from its geometry, or it has a bit of geometry [perhaps a tiny speck!] that's miles from the rest of it, and it might be on an OFF layer or hidden, or it could be an OFF cline - any of these make it harder to spot, or I have had issues with oddly scaled CAD blocks>>component [e.g. CAD m>>mm x1000] which can cause havoc too...
                                  If we could look at a SKP we could perhaps get some pointers on how to resolve these kinds of issue...

                                  TIG

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                                  • John SayersJ Offline
                                    John Sayers
                                    last edited by

                                    Hi TIG - thankyou for acknowledging my problem. Yes - I've had problems with geometry - I have built a simple door for one of my projects only to export it to CAD, either section slice or 2D Dwg graphic to find in CAD the lines are slightly out yet in sketchup they appear to be aligned to red or green axes.
                                    I go back to sketchup and re-align to axes and find they are now 1 degree out.

                                    I really can't track it down. It's either an error in the protractor, or the rotate command - I'm not sure which. It's a new fault as I've never experienced before.
                                    I'm currently re-aligning my block walls on a project and have found one of them to be out by 0.1 degree, trivial maybe but when you are dealing with 30m walls it's becomes substantial.

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                                    • Dave RD Offline
                                      Dave R
                                      last edited by

                                      John, this may be a long shot but...

                                      Do you ever move or realign the model axes? Is there an option to 'Reset' when you right click on the origin? It may not be the problem in your case but I have seen models in which the user moved the model axes and didn't get them aligned accurately. The result was that many parts of the model were drawn just slightly off axis. It was difficult to identify until I found components that were drawn before the axes were moved and then found the Reset option for the axes was available.

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