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    • Bryan KB Offline
      Bryan K
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      It seems I cannot access a thread that has a Photobucket internal link in the Gallery forum. This has been happening for some time, but until recently, I had not tested it across platforms.

      In my case, I cannot access those threads with either IE or FF on Windows, nor FF using Ubuntu.

      The result is a browser hang and then crash.

      Just a heads-up if anyone else is having this problem or has any suggestion for resolution.

      Thanks.

      See my portfolio at https://delphiscousin.blogspot.com/

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      • Rich O BrienR Offline
        Rich O Brien Moderator
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        PhotoBucket, imageShack and Flickr are 👎 👎 👎

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        • Bryan KB Offline
          Bryan K
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          @rich o brien said:

          PhotoBucket, imageShack and Flickr are 👎 👎 👎

          That would do it, then.

          See my portfolio at https://delphiscousin.blogspot.com/

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          • Dave RD Offline
            Dave R
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            I haven't had any trouble with images from either Photobucket or Flickr.

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            • Rich O BrienR Offline
              Rich O Brien Moderator
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              You may not have issue but for me any images embedded from Flickr or Photobucket take forever to load.

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              • Dave RD Offline
                Dave R
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                Yeah. I don't have any problems with images from them loading. I don't know why they take your computer so long. But, because they do for you, I've mostly quit using Flickr to host images I post here. 😉

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                • BoxB Offline
                  Box
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                  Can you gentlemen post a few links to threads you have problems with to check. I've been feeling like it was large uploads to the forum that were the problem rather than photobucket et al....

                  Mind you, I stopped looking at dukejazz's 3D printing thread a while back because it never loads, and that seems to be something to do with the forum software struggling with the external links.

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                  • Bryan KB Offline
                    Bryan K
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                    @box said:

                    Can you gentlemen post a few links to threads you have problems with to check. I've been feeling like it was large uploads to the forum that were the problem rather than photobucket et al....

                    Mind you, I stopped looking at dukejazz's 3D printing thread a while back because it never loads, and that seems to be something to do with the forum software struggling with the external links.

                    ^ This description is what appears to happening.

                    The reason my browsers are crashing is because of the length of time to load.

                    The latest is "The Art of SketchUp - part 1: Fantasy" thread.

                    I can't remember the others, but there's only been one or two. I would rather not try to find them unless absolutely necessary as they do crash my browser.

                    See my portfolio at https://delphiscousin.blogspot.com/

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                    • G Offline
                      Gábor
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                      The problem is definitely with Photobucket. Here is an image link from the "The Art of SketchUp - part 1: Fantasy" topic:

                      http://i593.photobucket.com/albums/tt12/ken28875/Simcity%205/R_gen_W2D2_townhouse_08_01_DetailedConcept_zpscdc8cecf.jpg~original

                      It is supposed to point to a .jpg image. Instead it serves a whole .html page. On the 7th page of the "The Art of SketchUp - part 1: Fantasy" topic there are about 36 such links to Photobucket. No wonder that on a slow internet connection it takes ages to download the page and the browser times out (crushes).

                      I'll take a closer look to the problem tomorrow to find out if a solution could be found on our side. Until a solution comes up, I recommend not to use Photobucket links on the forums.

                      I also PM ken28875 who linked his amazing work this way into the "The Art of SketchUp - part 1: Fantasy" to ask him if he could change the images to sketchucation hosted ones or not.

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                      • BoxB Offline
                        Box
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                        Gabor, I don't think it is a photobucket specific issue. It's been a fairly recent phenomenon and does relate to image intensive threads but is not specific to image upload sites.

                        Have a look at this thread, it was the first I noticed it on and it's mostly links to articles rather than image servers.
                        http://sketchucation.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=179&t=51084

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                        • Rich O BrienR Offline
                          Rich O Brien Moderator
                          last edited by

                          It's a mixture of video and images for that page.

                          That's a pretty insane amount of embeds.

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                          • BoxB Offline
                            Box
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                            True, but they shouldn't take ages just to load the page. Somehow it seems the forum software is actually loading the whole file rather than a simple place holder.
                            I'm part of a couple of other image and video heavy forums (could be tattooed custom biker sites or organic basket weaving, you decide) and a similarly loaded page doesn't strain my resources.

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                            • G Offline
                              Gábor
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                              @box said:

                              Have a look at this thread, it was the first I noticed it on and it's mostly links to articles rather than image servers.
                              http://sketchucation.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=179&t=51084

                              Thank you Box for the link. This page you linked, contains about 5,147 KB data compared to the page where this post is written contains about 818 KB. The other page also initiates 122 http requests to several servers. If any of those servers are overloaded that delays the rendering of the whole page.

                              Let's make a quick calculation: Let's say we're on an average internet connection with an average download speed of 250 KB/sec. Only for the data content of that page to be downloaded takes 20 seconds at such an average connection. And we haven't yet spoken about the delays what are caused by the http requests and about the slower servers.

                              Of course there are possible solutions to improve the situation. I'll try to find the most effective one. But IMO the pbhpBB software is not designed to link hundred images per topic page...

                              One possible solution could be to reduce the number of posts per page in topics wehere the number of image links grow above a limit... Opinion about this?

                              Now I see your other post and yes, an other possible solution could be to display place-holder images in case of outer links....

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                              • BoxB Offline
                                Box
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                                My comments and links are only meant as information and should in no way be read as criticism.

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                                • G Offline
                                  Gábor
                                  last edited by

                                  Just a short addition:

                                  Testing with the webpagetest.org pagespeed test, the quoted 3D printing topic page downloads in 13.264s. The art of Sketchup topic sometimes times out because of the Photobucket server unable to serve so much images paralelly. Other times it downloads in about 30s. But definitely the cause of the timeout is the Photobucket server.

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                                  • G Offline
                                    Gábor
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                                    @box said:

                                    My comments and links are only meant as information and should in no way be read as criticism.

                                    Of course and thank you very much for the information. 😄

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                                    • ken28875K Offline
                                      ken28875
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                                      Bryan: Sorry that you could not see my images.

                                      Gabor: I got your private message. I have been using Photobucket to post images on Sketchucation for years now and did not have the problem of slow loading. It seems like this issue is happening a few times lately the past few weeks though.

                                      Have you tried the other thread, The Art of SketchUp - part 2: Sci-Fi" topic?
                                      http://sketchucation.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=81&t=27030&start=180

                                      It is very similar to "The Art of SketchUp - part 1: Fantasy" topic with lots of pages and images, but the images seem to load quite faster.

                                      I am not a tech guy, so I don't know much about web hosting sites. I mainly use Photobucket. Does anyone have other suggestions?

                                      Gabor mentioned to me about attaching the images. What is the maximum image size?

                                      Thanks!

                                      _KN

                                      Follow Your Dreams.

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                                      • G Offline
                                        Gábor
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                                        Thank you very much Ken for your reply. Yes, I think Photobucket had some issues lately and it won't appear every time. (Might be that some of their servers are overloaded temporary.)

                                        The maximum attachment size for the the forums at the moment is 2MB. I think it should be large enough for most of the images.

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