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  • T Offline
    TIG Moderator
    last edited by 22 Jan 2013, 15:24

    @vinzdou said:

    wanna see
    Please explain yourself sensibly...
    You 'want to see' what ? πŸ˜•
    There is Google Translate readily available to you on the Internet, of you don't speak English... and surely more that two real English words could be strung together to convey something a little more meaningful πŸ˜’

    TIG

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    • N Offline
      Nortti
      last edited by 31 Jan 2013, 19:50

      I have a MacPro OS X 10.6.8 running SketchUp Pro 8. I have used the plugin 'Section-CutFace' a number of times before(in this model even), but now it makes SketchUp crash every time, but only in this model. When I activate the plugin I get a spinning wheel for awhile and then it crashes. The model I am working in is 9.9mb, I have 'disabled' all other plugins, repaired my disk and permissions. Yet, it still will not work! Any suggestions are greatly appreciated. Thanks!

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      • T Offline
        TIG Moderator
        last edited by 31 Jan 2013, 22:12

        @Nortti

        You give few clues as to what it is you are doing...
        What are you trying to 'cut'?
        An image would help...

        You must appreciate that it's an 'intersection'.
        If there are thousands of faces to intersect and form a new set of faces from then it can take some time.
        If Sketchup becomes unresponsive it doesn't mean it's crashed.
        It's just putting all of its resources into making the new geometry...
        What do you mean by crash??
        However, a full Bugsplat! does mean issues!!
        Limiting the 'on' layers to objects that will be 'cut' is a way of optimizing the processing - every visible object in the section-planes context must be considered for 'cutting' otherwise... even when it's not cut...

        Have you also purged-unused and fixed-problems under Model-Info > Statistics ?

        Also remember that Sketchup can't cope with very tiny or very very large geometry... does your model include any of this ?

        TIG

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        • N Offline
          Nortti
          last edited by 31 Jan 2013, 22:51

          Thank you for your timely response and sorry for the lack of information. I was running this plugin on a longitudinal building section for a 1600 sqft. house(stairs, framing members, envelope, etc.). I had visited the model info dialog and purged/fixed as well as everything else I mentioned in my previous post that were suggestions from blogs. What I did not do is limit the 'on' layers . . . and guess what? It worked! Thank you, I am slapping myself for how much time I have spent on this.

          Truly appreciated!

          P.S. By 'crash' I meant bugsplat.

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          • A Offline
            a33333c
            last edited by 3 Feb 2013, 10:42

            help can't use
            sk8 pro

            http://img210.imageshack.us/img210/8342/aavvo.jpg

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            • T Offline
              TIG Moderator
              last edited by 3 Feb 2013, 12:18

              This tool only appears if just one section-plane is selected - which it is and the face tools is there.

              A way to see if it at least works, is to select the section-plane [nothing else] and then open the Ruby Console and copy/paste [or type] this text + an <enter> press, The dialog should now start the tool's processing...
              SectionCut.new()
              Assuming it can work then I suspect the following issues...

              A reason for 'grayed' out context-menus is well known... but 'old' and solvable.
              It is fixed in the newer versions of Sketchup v8, but I see you have v7, where it can occur.
              It is caused by having too many plugins loading 'commands'.
              Sketchup used to have a limit of about 1000 commands [but this is much higher in the newer versions], so if you have assembled lots of plugins that make commands once you reach that limit Sketchup starts 'dumping' commands and so some items get 'grayed' [disabled] in the context-menu [the main menus can also show symptoms in severe cases]...
              Although this tool particular does not even make a 'command', its availability can be affected by a surfeit of commands when you have the older systems...
              The way to fix it is to upgrade to say v8 free and use that: remember that v7 can coexists if you want its DXF tools etc...
              Some older scripts did make multiple commands during a sessions, which exacerbated the problem, as far as I know these are all fixed, so at least make sure that you have the latest versions of your tools...
              Another ways to try and fix it is to go through your Preferences > Extensions and disable all of the ones you don't often use... AND also to look through the Plugins folder and take out scripts that you rarely use. Then when restarted Sketchup will be 'leaner' and the old grayed context-menu issues should stop...

              TIG

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              • S Offline
                Scubadooper
                last edited by 24 Feb 2013, 13:05

                Am I able to use this .rb in SketchUp 8? From what I've learnt .rb is for version 7 and .rbz is for version 8. I've done a search on teh thread for mention of .rbz and haven't found anything. I've tried copying the file to the relevant extensions folder in the programe file (as you would for SketchUp 7) however it doesn't seem to work.

                Any ideas?

                Thanks

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                • M Offline
                  massimo Moderator
                  last edited by 24 Feb 2013, 14:02

                  The .rbz format is just a .rb compressed. So the plugin will work in version 8. Probably you have something wrong with the installation/admin rights. For using the plugin you have to put a section cut in the model then right click-->add section-cut face.

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                  • D Offline
                    Dave R
                    last edited by 24 Feb 2013, 14:08

                    @scubadooper said:

                    Am I able to use this .rb in SketchUp 8? From what I've learnt .rb is for version 7 and .rbz is for version 8. I've done a search on teh thread for mention of .rbz and haven't found anything. I've tried copying the file to the relevant extensions folder in the programe file (as you would for SketchUp 7) however it doesn't seem to work.

                    Any ideas?

                    Thanks

                    So just where did you learn this? Yesterday on another forum I ran into the same thing. That posted emphatically claimed that plugins must be in the .rbz format to work in SketchUp 8. This is absolutely wrong. I'm curious as to where you learned this so perhaps we can correct it and head off problems for other people.

                    As Massimo says, .rbz files are simply compressed (zipped) plugin files. They may contain more than just the .rb file. For plugins which do have the .rbz format, you can install them with Install Extensions under Preferences>Extensions. For simple .rb files, you only need to drop the file into the Plugins folder.

                    In your case you probably don't have full read and write permissions for the Plugins folder. Change those permissions to give you total access and reinstall this plugin by copying it into the Plugins folder. Make sure it still has the .rb file extension.

                    Etaoin Shrdlu

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                    • S Offline
                      Scubadooper
                      last edited by 24 Feb 2013, 14:17

                      Thanks to both of you.

                      It was a problem in using the script (it's the first extension I've used), the right click advice worked a dream.

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                      • D Offline
                        Dave R
                        last edited by 24 Feb 2013, 14:26

                        Matthew, I'm still interested as to where you learned that plugins have to be in the RBZ format to work in SU8.

                        Etaoin Shrdlu

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                          Scubadooper
                          last edited by 24 Feb 2013, 15:09

                          @dave r said:

                          Matthew, I'm still interested as to where you learned that plugins have to be in the RBZ format to work in SU8.

                          Sorry I didn't answer in my other post.

                          I had tried to find the solution to the problem and in reading how to install plugins on the Trimble website (here: http://www.sketchup.com/intl/en/download/rubyscripts.html) it wasn't clear that I was able to use the copy method as well as from an rbz. The text reads 'installing on version 7 and earlier' and 'installing on version 8', when it should read 'installing with a .rb' and 'installing on version 8 (and later?)with a .rbz'

                          Of note is that the Google website (here http://support.google.com/sketchup/bin/answer.py?hl=en&answer=38583) causes the same effect.

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                          • D Offline
                            Dave R
                            last edited by 24 Feb 2013, 15:25

                            I see how it might be mis-interpreted if you don't read the entire page. There is this:

                            @unknownuser said:

                            Older versions of SketchUp and .rb files
                            If you're using an older version of SketchUp or you have a file with the .rb extension, you can install the plugin by placing the Ruby script file into the appropriate folder, and then restarting SketchUp.

                            Thanks for that.

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                            • T Offline
                              TIG Moderator
                              last edited by 6 Jun 2013, 10:18

                              Here's a major update...

                              http://sketchucation.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=172583#p172583

                              You now have the option to 'Glue' the section-cut-face to the Section-Plane, so it changes with adjustments to the plane/model-geometry etc...
                              Recoded to be faster and has customizable color list etc...

                              TIG

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                                Gjenio
                                last edited by 6 Jun 2013, 12:00

                                @tig said:

                                You now have the option to 'Glue' the section-cut-face to the Section-Plane, so it changes with adjustments to the plane/model-geometry etc...

                                ThatΒ΄s amazing. Thanks so much for adding this long awaited new feature.
                                That turns Skp 8 into a completly new version!

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                                • A Offline
                                  ArCAD-UK
                                  last edited by 6 Jun 2013, 12:30

                                  Feels a lot faster 😎

                                  One problem, it is creating faces for switched off layers. πŸ˜•

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                                    srx
                                    last edited by 6 Jun 2013, 13:36

                                    Great update! Thanks. Is there a way to make it work in 7.1?

                                    www.saurus.rs

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                                    • T Offline
                                      TIG Moderator
                                      last edited by 6 Jun 2013, 14:18

                                      @srx said:

                                      Great update! Thanks. Is there a way to make it work in 7.1?

                                      Sadly, no...

                                      TIG

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                                      • T Offline
                                        TIG Moderator
                                        last edited by 6 Jun 2013, 14:19

                                        @arcad-uk said:

                                        Feels a lot faster 😎

                                        One problem, it is creating faces for switched off layers. πŸ˜•

                                        I'll look at addressing that ?
                                        Didn't it use to ?

                                        TIG

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                                          ArCAD-UK
                                          last edited by 6 Jun 2013, 14:30

                                          The previous version would only section what was visible so you could extract just parts of the model. What flagged it up for me was all my demolitions suddenly reappeared.

                                          My workflow is similar to Sonder's e.g. background and line work except I'm using fills in LO underneath the line work, is it possible for the glue function to work without faces?

                                          With your new version the defaults can't be edited, any chance of making it so all the Y/N options can be preset by the user as well as selecting <No Face>?

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