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    thomthom
    last edited by 15 Jan 2013, 16:21

    hm... That is a troublesome model indeed. But you're bound to get trouble with such small dimensions. Your model is just a few mm large, some of these edges are like 2mm or smaller.

    To work around this you'd be better off drawing things like 100 or 1000 times larger than what it really should be.

    I tried to scale up your model 100 times, but I still got issues. Normally it'd work, but I think your model has already inherited accuracy problems.

    Thomas Thomassen — SketchUp Monkey & Coding addict
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      thomthom
      last edited by 15 Jan 2013, 16:23

      Yea, scaling up 100 times and inspecting the distances, that seemingly flat base isn't flat at all. The model is just too wildly inaccurate that it cannot be cleaned up.

      Thomas Thomassen — SketchUp Monkey & Coding addict
      List of my plugins and link to the CookieWare fund

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        richyrich33
        last edited by 15 Jan 2013, 22:05

        Great Ruby, CHEERS!!!!

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          humbertorb
          last edited by 21 Jan 2013, 19:17

          So if I understood you well I should work in a larger scale (x100, for instance) and only in the final step reduce it down.

          If you want to chase this down I guess even in larger scale models it can happen (see attached).

          This model I've converted from an .STL file, cleaned up manually and made sure it is solid.

          In hidden edges that are very close (almost parallel) the plugin loses geometry:

          ![Before and Aftter "Merge Faces"](/uploads/imported_attachments/b6Hc_example2-cleanup.jpg "Before and Aftter "Merge Faces"")

          Cheers and thanks for the response.


          Larger scale model that loses geometry too.

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            thomthom
            last edited by 22 Jan 2013, 09:12

            That is because you only scaled the instance of the component. The definition itself is tiny - meaning the coordinates for the model is still within very small distances.

            Scale.png

            It's best to model 100 times larger - as scaling up a tiny model will just amplify tiny precision issues.

            Because the model was made tiny I still got problem when using the Scale Definition (makes the definition the same size as the instance.) I still lost two faces.

            When I reset the scale, then opened the group scaled up 100 times and then ran CleanUp I would get model validation warnings - regarding face normals, but no faces would be lost.

            Thomas Thomassen — SketchUp Monkey & Coding addict
            List of my plugins and link to the CookieWare fund

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              JARR3DF15CH3R
              last edited by 23 Jan 2013, 18:08

              Sorry if this seems dumb, but I have downloaded this plugin, and the TT_lib2 file, put them both in my plugins folder, but I cant seem to use them at all, cant see them in the plugins menu in SU.

              Thanks

              JARR3DF15CH3R

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                Burkhard
                last edited by 23 Jan 2013, 19:35

                A screenshot of your folder structure can help a lot

                [http://www.ia-plus.de(http://www.ia-plus.de)]

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                  eddiemoney
                  last edited by 25 Jan 2013, 16:25

                  Hello, when I download this plugin, it is saved as an "rb" file. Sketchup doesn't see this file when I try to find it form the sketchup, preferences, plugin window. It seems to be looking for "rbz"

                  This is my first plugin I am installing so pls bear with me if this is a common issue.

                  thanks,

                  Ed

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                    Dave R
                    last edited by 25 Jan 2013, 16:44

                    Simple rb files aren't to be loaded the way you are trying to do it. Just navigate to where you saved the RB file and move it into the Plugins folder. Or you can add the rb file to a ZIP file, rename the ZIP file to .rbz and install it as you were trying to do. Of course just dropping the rb file into the Plugins folder is easier.

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                      TIG Moderator
                      last edited by 25 Jan 2013, 16:57

                      You are clearly somewhat "plugin-installationly-challenged".
                      There are clear Help files on this in the Sketchup menu...

                      Anyway... Plugins now come in four flavors.

                      Two are as simple RB or more rarely encrypted RBS files that are simply put into the Sketchup Plugins folder.

                      Two are as Archives of files and helper-files inside the tool's subfolder, in ZIP or RBZ format. When extracted from the archive, these again need to go into the Sketchup Plugins folder, keeping files inside their original subfolders etc...

                      Simple files like this tool's RB also require a 'Lib' folder [again it's full of 'helper-files'] which is also linked from the tool's download page, so you need that too.

                      Once a plugin is loaded you'll usually need to restart Sketchup to use it: it then appears in menus, toolbars etc as described in the tool's help pages...

                      Rather than you having to find folders, extract archives etc the nice guys at Sketchup recently introduced the new RBZ archive format - which is actually just a ZIP file with a different 'extension'. The 'Installer' button under Prefereces > Extensions can then automatically extract the RBZ file's contents and install them into your Plugins folder... However, this tool does not readily cope with installing from ZIP archives, or with single RB/RBS files. Luckily thomthom has made a tool that itself comes in a RBZ format, that you can install using the native-tool button, this then adds a tool submenu into the 'Plugins' menu that lets you install any of the four file types. So after you have installed this you can install any tool's RB file, and then the supporting TT_Lib etc from its downloaded archive...
                      Thmthom's tool is called 'Simple Plugins Installer' and it is easily found in the SCF 'Plugins Index' linked from our menu above...

                      TIG

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                        eddiemoney
                        last edited by 25 Jan 2013, 17:03

                        Indeed, I am... or at least I was... Just had to use the "ZIP file with a different 'extension'" technique...

                        Saved the rb as a zip and then change the extension to .rbz for it to work. This plugin is wonderful and the help I get here is unmatched, thanks!

                        BTW, I'm pulling really old .max files, opening htem in the 3ds demo, saving them as 3ds and then opening them up in SU and running this plugin. So far the results have been amazing.

                        Ed

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                          JARR3DF15CH3R
                          last edited by 25 Jan 2013, 17:34

                          @burkhard said:

                          A screenshot of your folder structure can help a lot

                          The other posts have helped me, the plugin didn't help for what I needed. ( trying to reduce my file size from 33.2 mb to the required 10 mb to upload to google earth ) This plug in is great though, thanks for all the help.

                          Thanks,

                          JARR3DF15CH3R

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                            hikako
                            last edited by 26 Jan 2013, 12:15

                            hi just downloaded
                            i'll try use it in my thesis work that is bicoming too big . it's a simple reconstruction of a part of my district.
                            ( much is cause by the images imported in) anyway i'm trying to reduce it.

                            thank you

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                              windbladezero
                              last edited by 2 Feb 2013, 15:10

                              awesome i will test it ASAP

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                                nida12345m
                                last edited by 7 Feb 2013, 06:35

                                hey guys, I am new to this, I am trying to install this plugin but it won't work while others do work, for some reason it doesnt show in my sketchup interface, or in the plugins menu.. help 😄

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                                  thomthom
                                  last edited by 7 Feb 2013, 08:33

                                  @nida12345m said:

                                  hey guys, I am new to this, I am trying to install this plugin but it won't work while others do work, for some reason it doesnt show in my sketchup interface, or in the plugins menu.. help 😄

                                  See if this article helps: http://www.thomthom.net/thoughts/2012/01/installing-plugins-for-google-sketchup/
                                  I'd advice you to check out the installer utility linked in the article.

                                  Thomas Thomassen — SketchUp Monkey & Coding addict
                                  List of my plugins and link to the CookieWare fund

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                                    Manijeh
                                    last edited by 23 Feb 2013, 21:01

                                    I downloaded this tool, but for some reason it does not show up under my Plugins tool bar?

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                                      Dave R
                                      last edited by 23 Feb 2013, 22:33

                                      Well, you give us almost nothing to go on to help you. 😒

                                      Where did it get saved when you downloaded it? It has to go into SketchUp's Plugins folder for which you must have full read and write permissions. Did you also download and install TT_lib2 as directed in the first post of this thread? I'm guessing you didn't follow the instructions that were given or the plugin would work.

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                                        sunnix
                                        last edited by 27 Feb 2013, 12:23

                                        thank you so much !!!

                                        great plugin !

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                                          jhapo11
                                          last edited by 4 Mar 2013, 12:35

                                          thank you for this plug-ins i will try it later. keep it up!

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