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    • pbacotP Offline
      pbacot
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      Somehow my last post didn't go on or stay on. Michalis:

      I find these tools and your art very inspiring. It's so far beyond what I do at present, or what would really relate to my work, not sure what to say...but you have me wanting to explore Blender. I've DL'd and "looked" at it so far... Thanks for posting these fantastic images!

      MacOSX MojaveSketchUp Pro v19 Twilight v2 Thea v3 PowerCADD

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      • michaliszissiouM Offline
        michaliszissiou
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        Mealea is a girl who loves the sea. She lives on a boat.
        Another one, hr giger like.

        https://dl.dropbox.com/u/24090090/chair.jpg

        Because SpaceOdysseys must have a happy end ๐Ÿ˜†

        https://dl.dropbox.com/u/24090090/the12H.jpg

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        • michaliszissiouM Offline
          michaliszissiou
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          @Oli
          You came back, not me LOL
          (just watched this movie with arnold saying that he's back, lol, what a crap)
          @pbacot
          Thanks, what I tried to demonstrate here is a way to sculpt via displacements. A nice UV editor is needed and seems that only few apps have such a tool. (LOL)
          Let's say, an epidermal and a subdermal sculpting.
          DO your basic box modeling, UV it, the rest is sculpt on epidermal subdivided surface. As Zb, Mb, or Mode (recently) do. Any sculpting on a base mesh is a displacement.
          Exceptions come from SCulptris, 3dcoat, zbrush(dyntopo), blender (Dynamesh experimental builds) Such apps produce realtime, real topology to describe a sculpted mesh.

          A more semi-organic attempt, closer to the alien HRGiger like thing.

          https://dl.dropbox.com/u/24090090/organics1.jpg

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          • olisheaO Offline
            olishea
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            Yeah that film is pretty terrible, apart from Chuck Norris!! You can't go wrong! ๐Ÿ˜† I can't believe you actually watched it ๐Ÿ˜†

            I've been working on a sci-fi scene on the side and this is really inspiring stuff, each panel looks like an entire landscape, a whole SU model per panel ๐Ÿ˜ฒ great stuff,the ship's got sinews! ๐Ÿ˜Ž

            oli

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            • michaliszissiouM Offline
              michaliszissiou
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              @unknownuser said:

              I can't believe you actually watched it

              I was sleeping, most of the time. LOL
              But, I was lucky, saw Arnold's part.
              wow, tell me more about this scifi scene.

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              • michaliszissiouM Offline
                michaliszissiou
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                A funny space ship. ๐Ÿ˜†

                https://dl.dropbox.com/u/24090090/GshipLoops1.jpg

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                • pilouP Offline
                  pilou
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                  A stone star ship very detailed! ๐Ÿ˜„

                  Frenchy Pilou
                  Is beautiful that please without concept!
                  My Little site :)

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                  • michaliszissiouM Offline
                    michaliszissiou
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                    LOL, Pilou
                    What about this one? I can't figure out what it is. ๐Ÿ˜†

                    https://dl.dropbox.com/u/24090090/goAlGr1.jpg

                    And one of MealeaYing's sculpts, rendered in cycles by me.

                    https://dl.dropbox.com/u/24090090/MelY.jpg

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                    • majidM Offline
                      majid
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                      Michalis , I like your sculps and also the trick you use. but am really confused with unwrapping (I;ve only tested 3ds max,...... Blender is almost horrible to me,... I scare the interface... )

                      My inspiring A, B, Sketches book: https://sketchucation.com/shop/books/intermediate/2612-alphabet-inspired-sketches--inspiring-drills-for-architects--3d-artists-and-designers-

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                      • olisheaO Offline
                        olishea
                        last edited by

                        The sci-fi scene was just something I'm playing with, trying to push SU to breaking point basically!! These sculpts are fantastic ๐Ÿ‘

                        oli

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                        • michaliszissiouM Offline
                          michaliszissiou
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                          Thanks
                          Oli, Majid.
                          Blender UV editor is among the best around.
                          All my recent "panels" for baking them into a depth map, are, now, made in SU. Maybe the best tool for this job. As, topology is irrelevant to this method. Then obj export and bake depth in blender. Fast, precise and effective.

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                          • michaliszissiouM Offline
                            michaliszissiou
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                            A friend from blenderartists made a tutorial on this method.
                            It's only the basics, plus a nice compositing tut in the end.
                            Many more to say on the UV editor but you can see the idea behind such technics.
                            It's the old displacement method, but indicates the need of clean topology as base and the use of a UV editor.
                            All the trick is to align the unwrapping to the geometry of the pattern. Horizontals and verticals on the pattern, only. Any curves are coming from curving the topology. Loops etc.
                            http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VY9vHdwUo98

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                            • olisheaO Offline
                              olishea
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                              excellent tutorial, you are famous!

                              in fact it's probably the only blender video that breaks it down quite nicely, got me intrigued now!

                              oli

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                              • simon le bonS Offline
                                simon le bon
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                                Hi Michalis,

                                I am completely fan of these productions

                                my best, Simon.

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                                • michaliszissiouM Offline
                                  michaliszissiou
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                                  Thanks Oli. I believe, by all means, I have something here. So many fancy apps for just using displacing as a sculpting method. Fancy tools on such worlaround. Think about it. No real geometry. No real extrudes (push pull). Just displacing a hi subdivided mesh.
                                  @Simon.
                                  What production now? These are just 10 mins doodles.
                                  We may be more clever than others involved into 3d VideoGaming industry. You never know LOL
                                  we can understand maths, thus, we can understand what displacement, as a sculpting method, means. Though Zbrush is dedicated on this method.
                                  Sorry to say this, but I mean it.

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                                  • simon le bonS Offline
                                    simon le bon
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                                    @michaliszissiou said:

                                    @Simon.
                                    What production now? These are just 10 mins doodles.
                                    We may be more clever than others involved into 3d VideoGaming industry. You never know LOL
                                    we can understand maths, thus, we can understand what displacement, as a sculpting method, means. Though Zbrush is dedicated on this method.
                                    Sorry to say this, but I mean it.

                                    "What production now? These are just 10 mins doodles."
                                    I Michalis, I see you actually engaged in a certain waywardness mood. And even if I miss the context implicated I'm sure you have some good reasons for.

                                    Apart that, no matter the time passed and the effort/difficulty (I know the simple use of displacement maps ๐Ÿ˜‰ ๐Ÿ˜ž everything you touch by sculpting , by computer modelling etc comes artistically interesting / beautiful.

                                    See that Gothic/Futuristic building!!
                                    I would really like to see it constructed in a real place. I feel it

                                    https://dl.dropbox.com/u/24090090/goth1H.jpg

                                    (Well, I can also understand that it is annoying in a certain way to receive compliments too simple and direct)

                                    Staying aware of your "productions"
                                    ++ simon.

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                                    • michaliszissiouM Offline
                                      michaliszissiou
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                                      Simon
                                      It's a nice trick, a very inspiring game if you like.
                                      One for sure.
                                      Real sculpting means real geometry. The best way is to use tris for this.
                                      After you have the basics, the rest can be just displacements. Not real sculpting though, is it doesn't change the topology, Only subdivides and displaces it.
                                      But to use random patterns around, have a full control on where to place them after... a nice tool for visualizing things.

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                                      • pilouP Offline
                                        pilou
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                                        The Uv Video construction of the Texture remember this crazzy gallery!
                                        Have fun visit! โ˜€
                                        by Jock Cooper (I believe that you can use these textures for no commercial use - Creative Commons licence)

                                        http://www.fractal-recursions.com/fractals/fractal-02070501.jpg

                                        Frenchy Pilou
                                        Is beautiful that please without concept!
                                        My Little site :)

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                                        • pilouP Offline
                                          pilou
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                                          And also another thing ๐Ÿ˜„
                                          The texturing of the tore is a very long process! ๐Ÿ˜ฒ
                                          Why not use an unique square texture composed with tricky organisation on the edges for have graphic connection ? And no symmetric thing in the center!
                                          So you have 4 possibilities in 2D for one quad or 8 if you inverse the face!
                                          So just make a random for each quad and you have a perfect texture with no repetition on the tore!

                                          I have make the same for volumes (and a 24 position of a dice) !
                                          Here the script for 24 positions of a volume in the space 3D for Blender ๐Ÿ˜‰
                                          Many Thanks to Zeauro! ๐Ÿ˜Ž

                                          http://www.3dsaloon.fr/phpbb3/download/file.php?id=453&mode=view/rokbox.jpg

                                          Remember i have made that also for SU! ๐Ÿ˜‰
                                          Thx to Sdmitch for the same script for SU ๐Ÿ˜‰ Page (2)
                                          Here a no symmetric volume can connect on each face!

                                          http://www.3dsaloon.fr/phpbb3/download/file.php?id=1421&mode=view/rokbox.jpg

                                          And the next year i will make animation with that inside SU because now I can manage Simfonia! โ˜€

                                          @Simon :look my little videos about Simofonia: and try the free version, you don't regreat it! (in French ze vidรฉos! ๐Ÿ˜‰
                                          Menu Divers / Simfonia
                                          It's a very funny Plugin! ๐Ÿ‘

                                          Frenchy Pilou
                                          Is beautiful that please without concept!
                                          My Little site :)

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                                          • michaliszissiouM Offline
                                            michaliszissiou
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                                            @Pilou
                                            This tutorial explains some basic thoughts.
                                            This technique is made for much more than displacing a torus (which actually isn't sculpting at all)
                                            Much more to say on UV editing, on blender UV editor especially. It seems, I'm among the few who know how to handle it spontaneously. Funny, the tool is among the best I've seen around, very easy to use. I still remember this maya UV nonsense (brrrr)
                                            The UV texturing of a torus is a two-three clicks operation.
                                            -select faces
                                            -U key for UV_unwrap, [reset], ctrl+P to pack on texture, [foolow active quad] to align them nicely. Voilร .
                                            Now, the next generation of experiments LOL
                                            Psychonautics. More are coming, including figurative sculpting too.

                                            https://dl.dropbox.com/u/24090090/psychoA1.jpg

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