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    • TIGT Offline
      TIG Moderator
      last edited by

      As well as Gai's excellent tips on breaking your model into bite sized chunks and editing separately and then reloading, there are times you need to refer to adjacent objects...
      If you make the new part in place and immediately separate it off by putting its geometry inside a new component or group, then you can use the View > Component Edit > View Rest of Model toggle etc to hide everything else except what you are working on during an Edit session. Toggling it 'off' let's you see parts that would be otherwise hidden by other objects, but toggling it 'on' can also be useful as it lets you snap to objects outside of the edit context. You can also make 'combo hides' of 'rest of model' and 'similar objects' - e.g. snapping to another tread-instance in a spiral stair [while everything else is hidden] can be useful because you'll then know that they join together perfectly when they are all assembled.

      If you feel you really have to work away from the main assembled parts, then still start by making a small part 'in place' as a group/component then Select it and Move it along an axis [color-locked - to say 'red'], type in an easily remembered distance e.g. 9999 [+<enter>] when working in mm moves it almost 10m to the right - assuming this is far enough away for your needs...
      When you are done editing the contents, select the 'container' and start to Move it along the same axis, in the opposite direct... back towards where it belongs... and again type in 9999 [+<enter>] - this will put it back exactly where it was to start with.

      TIG

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      • K Offline
        kallen
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        @TIG, Gai The last tip (moving an easy to remember distance along an axis) is what I've been doing but I think I probably need to start thinking more in 'components'. I've shied away from them until now. I 'm not sure what you meant by 'combo hides'? Did you mean 'component hides'? Thanks again guys for all the help. When I get this thing done I'm having a party - you're all invited if you're anywhere near Palmer Lake Colorado. Cheers, K..

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        • GaieusG Offline
          Gaieus
          last edited by

          Well, in fact, both TIG and I will be in Colorado in some two weeks...
          (Do not make too rash promises!) πŸ˜‰

          Gai...

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          • K Offline
            kallen
            last edited by

            I never make rash promises. It may be done in two weeks but it'll be close. What r u coming to CO for? Don't tell me mountain biking (cause I'm an avid biker). Chin-chin, K..

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            • beginnerB Offline
              beginner
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              @unknownuser said:

              What r u coming to CO for?

              🀣

              Regards, SU 'beginner'

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              • TIGT Offline
                TIG Moderator
                last edited by

                @beginner said:

                @unknownuser said:

                What r u coming to CO for?

                🀣
                I know that you're going too !
                BUT we'll be ~85 miles away...Capture.PNG

                TIG

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                • beginnerB Offline
                  beginner
                  last edited by

                  Hmmm...
                  Palmer Lake Colorado.

                  Regards, SU 'beginner'

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                  • TIGT Offline
                    TIG Moderator
                    last edited by

                    @beginner said:

                    Hmmm...
                    Palmer Lake Colorado.

                    [off:3gxof8kr]We ARE going somewhat off topic here...
                    And 'Beginner' is now starting to sound like a stalker... πŸ˜•
                    Hmmmm...[/off:3gxof8kr]

                    TIG

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                    • TIGT Offline
                      TIG Moderator
                      last edited by

                      @beginner said:

                      Hi TIG,
                      It was just a comment...
                      Your map location is close to Palmer Lake mentioned by Kallen - nothing else.
                      But 'A' IS 'Boulder' and 'B' IS 'Palmer Lake' πŸ˜•
                      It's too small to show up on a map that scale - BUT the nearest 'big' place 'Monument' does show up... πŸ˜’
                      πŸ˜‰

                      TIG

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                      • beginnerB Offline
                        beginner
                        last edited by

                        Hi TIG,
                        It was just a comment...
                        Your map location is close to Palmer Lake mentioned by kallen - nothing else.

                        PS. kallen there is a SketchUp Basecamp 15-17/10/2012 in Boulder.
                        http://sketchupbasecamp2012.eventbrite.com/

                        Regards, SU 'beginner'

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                        • TIGT Offline
                          TIG Moderator
                          last edited by

                          We'll ALL meet up in Boulder... πŸ˜•

                          TIG

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                          • GaieusG Offline
                            Gaieus
                            last edited by

                            This: http://forums.sketchucation.com/viewforum.php?f=366

                            And a whole lot of other folks from here will be there. πŸ˜‰

                            (Too many beers)

                            Gai...

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                            • K Offline
                              kallen
                              last edited by

                              If I make a rectangle and extrude it into a cube then that should be a valid solid right?

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                              • pbacotP Offline
                                pbacot
                                last edited by

                                Yes, but in SU you need to make it a group or component for it to be recognized as a solid.

                                MacOSX MojaveSketchUp Pro v19 Twilight v2 Thea v3 PowerCADD

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                                • TIGT Offline
                                  TIG Moderator
                                  last edited by

                                  @kallen said:

                                  If I make a rectangle and extrude it into a cube then that should be a valid solid right?
                                  ONLY IF you them make that geometry into a group or a component == then you are correct. Pushpulling almost any form should result in a 'solid' - if it's already a lone face or the object is already a solid: unless you hold down Ctrl to leave a potential internal face in an existing form, or you work on a lone face which is facing in the direction of the pull in which case the 'bottom' face will be omitted in the new form...

                                  To test if a 3d group/component-instance is a 'solid' you just need to select it and get 'Entity Info' [context-menu or Edit menu], the top bar of that dialog includes the word 'Solid' IF it is a solid.
                                  To see the difference make a lone rectangle into a group too; the one says it is a 'Group' the other 'box' form says it is a 'Solid Group' !

                                  As has been said before... a manifold 'solid' is simply a group or component-instance that contains just faces and edges, and every one of those edges must have exactly two faces - so that means - no faceless edges, no holes or flaps that would leave an edge with only one face, no 'internal partition faces' which would mean that some edges will have three or more faces, no shapes 'touching' along an edge which would mean that the edge has four faces... and also no nested groups/instances [even if they are themselves solids!] and so on...

                                  TIG

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                                  • K Offline
                                    kallen
                                    last edited by

                                    Ahhhhhh, I forgot about the make a component thing. Left Sketchup for a month and forget everything!

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