[Plugin] QuadFaceTools

ivreich · 16 Jul 2012, 05:28

UV Mapping onto Back Faces?

Hi thomthom

Is there a way to get the UV mapping tool within QuadFaceTools to map textures onto back faces as well? I tried using thrupaint from Fredo but the UI is a lot more complex than the UV tool native to quadfacetools. Also it seems to deal with tranformations differently so it's really hard to get the back faces to match the front faces.

I'm thinking this will be useful for mapping textures with alpha channel, e.g. fencing, where you can actually see through to the back faces beyond. Have attached an image as an example.

cheers

joel

TIG · 16 Jul 2012, 09:43

The latest version of my "FixReversedFacesmaterials" Toolset includes a new tool to apply the front-material onto the back of selected faces, keep matching UVmapping of textures etc... Unlike the other tools in the set it doesn't 'flip faces', it just matches the back-material to be like the front-material but UVmapped so both textures align - which is useful with 'see-throughs'...
See here http://forums.sketchucation.com/viewtopic.php?p=264134#p264134
It should work perfectly with your mapped example 'latticework' material onto both faces...

thomthom · 16 Jul 2012, 10:08

UV Toolkit will allow you to transfer front <-> back. http://forums.sketchucation.com/viewtopic.php?t=18992

I'll make a note to add an option in QuadFace Tools.

ivreich · 16 Jul 2012, 12:19

Thanks guys. I'll give them both a go.

On a separate note, is there a way that quadfacetools, JPP and kirill's new LSS tools can come together to make a proper (precise) panelising tool for SU? I'm no scripting guru but it seems like a lot of plugins out there already come quite close. I've been asking around about this a lot but no one seems to be interested. here's what i thought:

Create quadface mesh (with EEby, curviloft etc.)
Use JPP to turn each quad into a 3d "cell" with definable offset thickness
Use LSS "stick group to mesh" to map a selected component neatly into each cell, breaking/distorting along the diagonals to fill the entire surface.

I originally posted this idea and some example images here:

http://forums.sketchucation.com/viewtopic.php?f=323&t=39992

Didn't get very far, some suggestions to use TGI3D but it's a lot of money to fork out for just one little part of it's functionality. I'll keep pushing the idea periodically.

Joel

tedvitale · 31 Aug 2012, 20:10

HELP! Im freakin out! I installed TT_Lib2 and TT_QuadFaceTools to my plugins folder. TT_Lib2 gave me a copy and replace option when I went to place it in the plugins folder. Since I already have a number of TT's other tools installed I assumed it would be no problem. But I just opened Sketchup and bam, NONE of my plugins show up. Nothing in my tool pallet selection, nada! Their all still there in the plugins folder but nothing works in sketchup now! What happened? Suggestions?

When I open sketchup I get an error that reads:

C:Program Files (x86)/Google/Google Sketchup 8/Plugins/Makfaces.rb

The files listed below could not be loaded:

Sketchup.rb
no such file to load -- TT_Lib2/core.rb
progrsee bar.rb
no such file to load -- TT_Lib2/core.rb

Contact the developer of this script address: toddb@sumstard.com

Anybody else ever have this happen?!

TIG · 31 Aug 2012, 22:58

It seems that TT is not here right now... so I'll try to help...
Reading past your typos...
TT's tools probably include their own 'progressbar' method, loaded by one of his 'helpers' in the required TT Lib folder.
ToddBurch [smustard.com] wrote the original code for a similar 'helper'.
When TT's fails to load error messages fly around and the auto-load of all sorts of scripts gets awry.
This says to me that you have NOT installed the QuadFace tools and/or the required helper files in the TT Lib correctly.
I suspect that some files that ought to be inside a subfolder are loose inside the Plugins folder and thereby mis-loading and throwing a wobbly...

Can you post screen-shots of your Plugins folder, and the subfolders associated with the tool and TT Lib...

If you re-read the download pages for the tool AND the TT Lib you should have little doubt about what should and shouldn't be in the Plugins folder and the appropriate [sub]folders...
Please reaffirm this to yourself, retry and come back...

thomthom · 1 Sept 2012, 10:02

I'm guessing you placed the content of the TT_Lib2 folder in the ZIP files directly into the root of the plugins folder. Instead you should have preserved the path footprint - as described next to the download link.

Alternatively, I would recommend, you install plugins with this utility which ensures they are correctly installed:
http://forums.sketchucation.com/viewtopic.php?t=42315#p375454

pbacot · 13 Sept 2012, 16:53

I looked at the online list of features but for some tools I can't easily associate the icon to the tool. I don't see icons for every tool noted. When I hover on the QFT icons I don't get a description either. Is there more on this, eg a pdf?

thomthom · 13 Sept 2012, 17:44

@pbacot said:

I looked at the online list of features but for some tools I can't easily associate the icon to the tool. I don't see icons for every tool noted. When I hover on the QFT icons I don't get a description either. Is there more on this, eg a pdf?

Yea - it's need better documentation and it's still in beta shape. I need to make some videos as well.
All I got is the Wiki: https://bitbucket.org/thomthom/quadface-tools/wiki/Home

pbacot · 13 Sept 2012, 18:08

@thomthom said:

@pbacot said:

I looked at the online list of features but for some tools I can't easily associate the icon to the tool. I don't see icons for every tool noted. When I hover on the QFT icons I don't get a description either. Is there more on this, eg a pdf?

Yea - it's need better documentation and it's still in beta shape. I need to make some videos as well.
All I got is the Wiki: https://bitbucket.org/thomthom/quadface-tools/wiki/Home

Thanks for the reply TT. At the speed I am learning-- NO hurry. I realize you have a few other things to do like some sort of bezier surface modeler. Oh, and I assume you have a life beyond our petty desires?

wind-borne · 13 Sept 2012, 18:23

@pbacot said:

I looked at the online list of features but for some tools I can't easily associate the icon to the tool. I don't see icons for every tool noted. When I hover on the QFT icons I don't get a description either. Is there more on this, eg a pdf?

Toolbar orientation?
Horizontal toolbar icons seldom reveal themselves on Mac's?
Hover over vertical toolbar maybe.

pbacot · 13 Sept 2012, 18:36

@wind-borne said:

@pbacot said:

I looked at the online list of features but for some tools I can't easily associate the icon to the tool. I don't see icons for every tool noted. When I hover on the QFT icons I don't get a description either. Is there more on this, eg a pdf?

Toolbar orientation?
Horizontal toolbar icons seldom reveal themselves on Mac's?
Hover over vertical toolbar maybe.

Doesn't work for me. I just figured out if I leave the Ruby window open I can get some info when clicking on the icons.

thomthom · 13 Sept 2012, 19:29

hmm... so are you getting no tooltips at all when you hover over the buttons? Because there are tooltips...

pbacot · 13 Sept 2012, 20:10

OK they're back. After restart. I know this has happened before... Sorry for the bother. I've been getting somewhere with it now.

Ruck · 2 Oct 2012, 07:49

Hi!
I can't load a plug-in on the first page. It because of new design of a site?
Win7 x64, Chrome.

thomthom · 2 Oct 2012, 07:53

@ruck said:

Hi!
I can't load a plug-in on the first page. It because of new design of a site?

Yes - that's a big fail on account of the new site. I'll let the admins know.

Meanwhile - download here: https://bitbucket.org/thomthom/quadface-tools/wiki/Download

Ruck · 2 Oct 2012, 08:01

@thomthom said:

Meanwhile - download here: https://bitbucket.org/thomthom/quadface-tools/wiki/Download

Thanks for the fast help!
Also forgive my English

dickorama · 25 Jan 2013, 13:28

Okay, I'm seriously confused here. Only managed to get this work once and all other attempts to repeat the process failed ever since. What do I do wrong?

Creating a sandbox plane. 50x50 meters, if size matters anyhow.
Converting sandbox to QuadTools quads.
Copying the plane nearby.
Texturing original plane. Texture is set to 50m, so it does not repeat.
Entering original plane group and copying UV coordinates.

So far so good, paste button is now active.

Entering copied plane group and pasting UV coordinates.
Nada.

I tried all kinds of various methods for conversion - exploded, grouped, did whatnot. Something I noticed is sometimes sandbox quads are turned into triangles when converted and sometimes they are not?!

Help

daforum · 15 Feb 2013, 09:17

Do the tools work with SketchUp V7?
Do I need any other plugins/ scripts for them to work?

Thank you.

thomthom · 15 Feb 2013, 09:47

Yes.

Just follow the instructions on the page that appear when you click the Download button and you'll be all set.