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  • D Offline
    Dave R
    last edited by 28 Jun 2012, 18:21

    I don't think it's TIG's plugin. The first time I opened the file I got a crash before I'd even tried to do anything with any tool. No idea why it crashed. I opened the file a second time and put in fillets with a 1000mm radius on the original set of lines with no trouble.

    Etaoin Shrdlu

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    • H Offline
      Howard leslie
      last edited by 29 Jun 2012, 13:03

      TIG,
      Thanks very much for your reply
      .........
      To answer your question:

      SU Pro 8.0.11752
      Windows Vista c/w Svc Pack 2
      (32 bit PC)

      Latest version of 2D Tools
      Text notes inside the #2d.rb file gives the version as

      v5.0 20100927

      ..........
      Really wierd how nobody else can reproduce this bug splat / behaviour
      Possible clash with another Ruby script ???
      .......
      Howard L'

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      • D Offline
        Dave R
        last edited by 29 Jun 2012, 13:48

        Howard, you may have hit the nail on the head. You might try to find out by removing other plugins temporarily and trying the fillets.

        Etaoin Shrdlu

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        • T Offline
          TIG Moderator
          last edited by 29 Jun 2012, 19:36

          As the title-bar says "v5.2" you could also try upgrading to the latest version...
          @unknownuser said:

          v5.1 20111201 Newly reported glitch fixed with 2dLine, so that now pressing the keyboard '0' when typing in a number on a PC it doesn't mistake for TAB >> Z-height!
          v5.2 20120228 2dFillet segment range adjusted to >=2 <=999.
          ??? I don't think any of these changes are important BUT you never know πŸ˜•

          TIG

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          • H Offline
            Howard leslie
            last edited by 29 Jun 2012, 21:29

            TIG,
            The version of 2D Tools that I have installed is from 2D_Tools52.zip.
            When I got the bug splats I made sure I had the latest version before reporting any possible bugs.
            ...........
            The text I quoted above was from the notes inside the #2d.rb file.
            I shouldn't have quoted this - its a bit misleading - as I see now that there are many *.rb files inside the zip file that you may have updated on the last release - not just the one.
            ............
            If its tricky to track the bug down / reproduce the fault - don't worry about it as I can work round it.
            However, if I notice anything else, or any other possible leads I'll report it.
            .............
            Brilliant plugin by the way
            ..............
            Thanks once again

            Howard L'

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            • D Offline
              Dave R
              last edited by 29 Jun 2012, 21:32

              Did you try removing the other plugins in the Plugins folder and running just 2D Tools? It doesn't appear to be a bug in the 2D Tools set. If it was, there'd be a large number of complaints and that doesn't seem to be the case.

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              • N Offline
                ninomayda
                last edited by 8 Aug 2012, 23:22

                Superb Tool. A "must" to all SKPrs. Attached please find Xcel sheet to assist calculating text size dependant on final presentation (Layout) drawing scales.


                Text Height Scale Factor

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                • M Offline
                  Milo
                  last edited by 16 Aug 2012, 16:59

                  Fantastic tools thank you very much !!!

                  FaceBook

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                  • HelmiH Offline
                    Helmi
                    last edited by 27 Aug 2012, 14:02

                    Thanks for that great tool.

                    Still one question left: I can't seem to decode NNs/NNx/Rad with the 2D polygon and NNs or Rad with the circle. No matter what i enter there it doesn't seem to affect anything. I tried to rise the segments of the circle but can't seem to get it and couldn't find any docs for that?

                    Any help would be highly appreciated.

                    Thanks!

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                    • T Offline
                      TIG Moderator
                      last edited by 27 Aug 2012, 14:26

                      @helmi said:

                      Thanks for that great tool.

                      Still one question left: I can't seem to decode NNs/NNx/Rad with the 2D polygon and NNs or Rad with the circle. No matter what i enter there it doesn't seem to affect anything. I tried to rise the segments of the circle but can't seem to get it and couldn't find any docs for that?

                      Any help would be highly appreciated.

                      Thanks!
                      Please look at the installed toolset there's a help menu/toolbar item... this opens the file inside the ../Plugins/2Dtools/ folder called '2DtoolsHelp.htm'...
                      There's detailed explanations about using each tool.
                      If you want to change the number of sides in a Polygon or Circle [in 2Dtools OR the native-tools] typing 99s changes to 99 segments..., typing in a number e.g. 99 sets the radius to that in 'current units' - you could also type 99mm to set it to that, even if the current units weren't 'mm'...
                      With 2d Polygons the extra option of typing 99x sets the 'width' across edges rather than across vertices...

                      TIG

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                      • HelmiH Offline
                        Helmi
                        last edited by 27 Aug 2012, 14:27

                        Thanks, TIG. Didn't notice that help menu item. Great work, thanks a lot!

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                        • B Offline
                          Ben Ritter
                          last edited by 19 Sept 2012, 13:21

                          TIG,

                          I'm having some bug splat issues while using the fillet tool. I did a clean reinstall of SU8 Pro and slowly started adding in plugins. Well I add your 2D Tools and can only create one fillet to say, a rectangular surface. Once I try filleting a second corner of the rectangle, it bumps me out of SU. Any suggestions?

                          Thanks. Ben

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                          • T Offline
                            TIG Moderator
                            last edited by 19 Sept 2012, 14:12

                            Works OK for me - very similar setup.
                            There might be a clash with another tool making ill-advised changes to base-classes.
                            Many tools, like fillet, need to make a group etc and manipulate it, so 3rd party tools mess with the Sketchup::Group class and break legit operations...
                            Possible culprits are SketchyPhysics, DrivingDimensions, Matchbox, SolarPosition, possibly earlier versions of Podium etc... do you have any of these, or other esoteric files loading ?
                            If so, if you disable them does the crash still happen...
                            If you have installed one of the older compilation 'toolbar' sets these too can add old Sketchup.rb, extensions.rb files etc into Plugins, when the equivalent new system files are automatically installed by Sketchup in the correct location in the Tools folder ! This can also have subtle effects that mess up unexpectedly... remove those and leave the proper ones in Tools...

                            Assuming it's still failing...
                            If you run fillet with the Ruby Console open before doing any filleting do you get any messages; is a 'Bugsplat crash' or a 'hang' etc ?

                            Are your fillets very large or very small ?
                            Can you post an example SKP that fails for you, with instructs on the two edges to pick, the radius to use etc... It should work effortlessly.

                            TIG

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                            • B Offline
                              Ben Ritter
                              last edited by 19 Sept 2012, 18:12

                              TIG,

                              I don't have any of the plugins you mention except for the latest Podium version.

                              The sample skp file is attached along with the plugins I have installed.

                              The ruby console did not display anything prior to the crash.

                              Thanks.


                              test.skp


                              plugins.png

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                              • T Offline
                                TIG Moderator
                                last edited by 19 Sept 2012, 18:57

                                It works fine for me. πŸ˜•
                                Have you tried disabling Podium and retrying ?
                                I don't have these two either:
                                Raylectron
                                and
                                Omnigrid
                                [you seem to have TWO versions loading - surely you only need the one ?]
                                If you disable those what happens ?

                                TIG

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                                • B Offline
                                  Ben Ritter
                                  last edited by 19 Sept 2012, 19:35

                                  TIG, thanks for your reply, and assistance. I uninstalled Podium, Raylectron and Omnigrid, and the fillet worked great. I then re-installed Podium and SU crashed. It's just strange that it is happening now when I've had both on my machine before and never had a problem.

                                  Ben

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                                  • bagateloB Offline
                                    bagatelo
                                    last edited by 22 Sept 2012, 13:25

                                    I'm trying to use this plugin at first time.
                                    Why "2D Fillet" erase the entire line?
                                    Chamfer works OK.

                                    My SU is 8.0.15158

                                    While the cat's away, the mice will play

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                                      Dave R
                                      last edited by 22 Sept 2012, 14:11

                                      What is the radius of the fillet set to?

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                                      • T Offline
                                        TIG Moderator
                                        last edited by 22 Sept 2012, 15:23

                                        It shouldn't erase any lines πŸ˜• , except to trim them back to the arc of the radius specified.
                                        The default radius is 0, this effectively makes the tool a trim/extend tool, entering a +ve radius will fillet any two coplanar edges that you click on, adding a guide-point at the new arc's center. Selected edges are trimmed/extended to suit.
                                        The only time it might play up is if you pick two lines that are all-but-parallel and apply a large radius, but even then the lines should get replaced by the arc ?
                                        Can you confirm your entered radius setting for the fillet [remembered with each SKP as the last used value] and perhaps post a simple example SKP of some lines that will fail for you, so we can test what's happening...
                                        Because 'chamfer' is working OK, then I suspect you are misconstruing the fillet radius input option?
                                        To change the number of segments you type Ns (+<enter>) where N might be 24 ... 24s; to enter the radius type a number (+<enter>) e.g. 123 which becomes the radius in the current Model Units, e.g. 123mm.
                                        To enter a radius in units other that the current Model Units - e.g. you are working in 'm' but you want to type the fillet in 'mm' you just need to use a units suffix on the entered value - so typing 123mm (+<enter>) will make the radius 0.123m automatically... You could even model in ft/ins but type in some radii in 'mm' this way ! πŸ˜’

                                        TIG

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                                        • bagateloB Offline
                                          bagatelo
                                          last edited by 22 Sept 2012, 15:45

                                          Here you have my example file who works fine for Chamfer but not for fillet.
                                          Yes, I not use zero cm for chamfer or fillet.


                                          FILLET FAIL.skp

                                          While the cat's away, the mice will play

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