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    • TIGT Offline
      TIG Moderator
      last edited by

      Here's my take on it (Β©).
      My version only needs one type of hardwood 'stick'.
      The notch has an offset cylindrical post allowing the pieces to twist into place and interlock to form a 300mm 'cross'.
      The form lends itself to 'mass-production' on a table-saw/router-table/drill-press etc with some jigs/stops set.
      These then connect together with hw dowels etc to make cubes etc, with added shelves/tops etc.


      ChidoriX1.PNG


      ChidoriX2.PNG


      ChidoriX3.PNG


      ChidoriX.skp

      TIG

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      • TIGT Offline
        TIG Moderator
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        Here's my second take on it (Β©).
        My mark-2 version only needs one type of hardwood 'stick', and the notch has an offset angled square post _19mm on the diagonal, allowing the pieces to twist into place and interlock to form a 300mm 'cross'.
        The form lends itself to easier 'mass-production' on a table-saw/router-table/drill-press etc with some jigs/stops set. The square/ 45-degree cuts are easier that mark-1 with its rounded post and they still rotate into place satisfactorily if made tight enough...
        These then connect together with hw dowels etc to make cubes etc, with added shelves/tops etc.


        ChidoriX2-1.PNG


        ChidoriX2-2.PNG


        ChidoriX2-3.PNG


        ChidoriX2.skp

        TIG

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        • Dave RD Offline
          Dave R
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          Excellent.

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          • W Offline
            Woodarc
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            Hi TIG just seen your modified version. Looks much easier to fabricate, will give it a try when I get the chance. Thanks for that. πŸ‘

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            • Dave RD Offline
              Dave R
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              One of the burr puzzles I referred to. πŸ˜‰

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              • pilouP Offline
                pilou
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                Remember this crazzy puzzle 😲
                My SU File πŸ˜‰

                http://www.polyloop.net/imagehosting/196484de038426a6.jpg

                http://www.polyloop.net/imagehosting/196484de03851553.jpg

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                My Little site :)

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                • pilouP Offline
                  pilou
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                  Even you find a solution in 3D that want not to say that is the solution in the reality! πŸ˜‰
                  A very difficult one! πŸ‘

                  Frenchy Pilou
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                  • Dave RD Offline
                    Dave R
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                    Pilou, I'm not sure what you just said. I had one of those puzzles when I was a child. That one isn't too bad to figure out. πŸ˜‰

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                    • Dave RD Offline
                      Dave R
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                      If I had the wooden one I could probably do it with my eyes closed. When I have some time I'll put yours together.

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                      • pilouP Offline
                        pilou
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                        You must several days of try before to find the solution by hands (if you find it ! πŸ’š
                        I know only one person who i said to test it who find it! 😲
                        All the others give up! πŸ˜’
                        It's a vicious solution! πŸ˜„

                        Frenchy Pilou
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                        • Dave RD Offline
                          Dave R
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                          Muscle memory. πŸ˜’

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                          • pilouP Offline
                            pilou
                            last edited by

                            Impossible to make it eyes closed! πŸ˜’

                            Carreful there are variations as shown here

                            It's not mine! πŸ˜‰

                            http://woodgears.ca/box_joint/burr_parts.jpg

                            or

                            http://t0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn;ANd9GcQDR-xtUEH7mKeYBle0rDWmJ8y2L_44EL8p5tkL0ra6rCTXNXPV7MRi8hGx

                            etc...

                            [flash=420,315:1nd228mp]http://www.youtube.com/v/dTGO_NR6YiA[/flash:1nd228mp]

                            Frenchy Pilou
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                            • pilouP Offline
                              pilou
                              last edited by

                              And I am very curious to know how
                              they build in wood because you must make some very little decrease/ decrease measures against a computer 3D model!
                              (for easy sliding)
                              If you don't know the solution i don't see how that is possible πŸ˜„

                              Frenchy Pilou
                              Is beautiful that please without concept!
                              My Little site :)

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                              • R Offline
                                Roger
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                                Carnegie Mellon Architecture school
                                @woodarc said:

                                Is anybody familiar with this system. I'm looking for details of the joints. The system apparently consists of 12 sticks with different junction details which connect without the aid of glues, nails or screws. I've checked out Amazon but with no joy. Any leads would be greatly appreciated. Many thanks in advance. ❓

                                Reminds me of a system that I came up with in architecture school.

                                http://www.azcreative.com

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                                • TIGT Offline
                                  TIG Moderator
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                                  @unknownuser said:

                                  And I am very curious to know how
                                  they build in wood because you must make some very little decrease/ decrease measures against a computer 3D model!
                                  (for easy sliding)
                                  If you don't know the solution i don't see how that is possible πŸ˜„
                                  You can hardly make it exactly right in the Model because the 'cutting' has so many variables...
                                  You make some 'clamped on jigs' on your table-saw or router-table [these depend what you are using to make the cuts!] for the max/min extents of the various cuts. You make some test cuts and see how they fit together. The jigs can be 'fine tuned' by adding thin paper shims between its parts to reduce the amount cut off [or by removing them to increase the amount that is cut off] ... until the test cuts fit snuggly together - if it's a dry fit you want a tighter fit that if it were to be glued as you have to leave space for the glue! Of course if you had one of the clever [but expensive] Incra jigs [ http://www.incrementaltools.com/ ] you could input 1000th of an inch adjustments until your cuts were perfect...

                                  TIG

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                                  • TIGT Offline
                                    TIG Moderator
                                    last edited by

                                    Roger - that looks similar to a coffee-table I made over 35 years ago - remodeled in Sketchup...


                                    tig_table.PNG

                                    TIG

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                                    • Dave RD Offline
                                      Dave R
                                      last edited by

                                      I'd cut the joints with this:


                                      http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7274/6922349406_40aa4eb0e4.jpg

                                      πŸ˜„

                                      A simple fixture as TIG mentions would make it simple to create accurate joints.

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                                      • R Offline
                                        Roger
                                        last edited by

                                        @dave r said:

                                        I'd cut the joints with this:


                                        http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7274/6922349406_40aa4eb0e4.jpg

                                        πŸ˜„

                                        A simple fixture as TIG mentions would make it simple to create accurate joints.

                                        I would too if I had one.

                                        http://www.azcreative.com

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                                        • Dave RD Offline
                                          Dave R
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                                          I know where you can get one. πŸ˜‰

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                                          • pilouP Offline
                                            pilou
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                                            In the case of the Puzzle headache...
                                            I am agree with all these tools can make any precision cuts but that can't say what "sides" must be increase or decrease! πŸ˜„
                                            Without the entiere solution's path known! πŸ˜’
                                            Else the gliding will be blocked at some place! πŸ’š
                                            It's not only the "nicks" but sometimes an entiere side face must be cut!
                                            And without the solution you can't build it! πŸ˜„

                                            Frenchy Pilou
                                            Is beautiful that please without concept!
                                            My Little site :)

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