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    Dave R
    last edited by 9 Aug 2012, 14:51

    Excellent.

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      Woodarc
      last edited by 16 Aug 2012, 10:22

      Hi TIG just seen your modified version. Looks much easier to fabricate, will give it a try when I get the chance. Thanks for that. πŸ‘

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        Dave R
        last edited by 16 Aug 2012, 12:18

        One of the burr puzzles I referred to. πŸ˜‰

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          pilou
          last edited by 16 Aug 2012, 12:19

          Remember this crazzy puzzle 😲
          My SU File πŸ˜‰

          http://www.polyloop.net/imagehosting/196484de038426a6.jpg

          http://www.polyloop.net/imagehosting/196484de03851553.jpg

          Frenchy Pilou
          Is beautiful that please without concept!
          My Little site :)

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            pilou
            last edited by 16 Aug 2012, 12:24

            Even you find a solution in 3D that want not to say that is the solution in the reality! πŸ˜‰
            A very difficult one! πŸ‘

            Frenchy Pilou
            Is beautiful that please without concept!
            My Little site :)

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              Dave R
              last edited by 16 Aug 2012, 12:30

              Pilou, I'm not sure what you just said. I had one of those puzzles when I was a child. That one isn't too bad to figure out. πŸ˜‰

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                Dave R
                last edited by 16 Aug 2012, 12:53

                If I had the wooden one I could probably do it with my eyes closed. When I have some time I'll put yours together.

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                  pilou
                  last edited by 16 Aug 2012, 12:55

                  You must several days of try before to find the solution by hands (if you find it ! πŸ’š
                  I know only one person who i said to test it who find it! 😲
                  All the others give up! πŸ˜’
                  It's a vicious solution! πŸ˜„

                  Frenchy Pilou
                  Is beautiful that please without concept!
                  My Little site :)

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                    Dave R
                    last edited by 16 Aug 2012, 12:59

                    Muscle memory. πŸ˜’

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                      pilou
                      last edited by 16 Aug 2012, 13:10

                      Impossible to make it eyes closed! πŸ˜’

                      Carreful there are variations as shown here

                      It's not mine! πŸ˜‰

                      http://woodgears.ca/box_joint/burr_parts.jpg

                      or

                      http://t0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn;ANd9GcQDR-xtUEH7mKeYBle0rDWmJ8y2L_44EL8p5tkL0ra6rCTXNXPV7MRi8hGx

                      etc...

                      [flash=420,315:1nd228mp]http://www.youtube.com/v/dTGO_NR6YiA[/flash:1nd228mp]

                      Frenchy Pilou
                      Is beautiful that please without concept!
                      My Little site :)

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                        pilou
                        last edited by 16 Aug 2012, 13:16

                        And I am very curious to know how
                        they build in wood because you must make some very little decrease/ decrease measures against a computer 3D model!
                        (for easy sliding)
                        If you don't know the solution i don't see how that is possible πŸ˜„

                        Frenchy Pilou
                        Is beautiful that please without concept!
                        My Little site :)

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                          Roger
                          last edited by 19 Aug 2012, 03:07

                          Carnegie Mellon Architecture school
                          @woodarc said:

                          Is anybody familiar with this system. I'm looking for details of the joints. The system apparently consists of 12 sticks with different junction details which connect without the aid of glues, nails or screws. I've checked out Amazon but with no joy. Any leads would be greatly appreciated. Many thanks in advance. ❓

                          Reminds me of a system that I came up with in architecture school.

                          http://www.azcreative.com

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                            TIG Moderator
                            last edited by 19 Aug 2012, 08:57

                            @unknownuser said:

                            And I am very curious to know how
                            they build in wood because you must make some very little decrease/ decrease measures against a computer 3D model!
                            (for easy sliding)
                            If you don't know the solution i don't see how that is possible πŸ˜„
                            You can hardly make it exactly right in the Model because the 'cutting' has so many variables...
                            You make some 'clamped on jigs' on your table-saw or router-table [these depend what you are using to make the cuts!] for the max/min extents of the various cuts. You make some test cuts and see how they fit together. The jigs can be 'fine tuned' by adding thin paper shims between its parts to reduce the amount cut off [or by removing them to increase the amount that is cut off] ... until the test cuts fit snuggly together - if it's a dry fit you want a tighter fit that if it were to be glued as you have to leave space for the glue! Of course if you had one of the clever [but expensive] Incra jigs [ http://www.incrementaltools.com/ ] you could input 1000th of an inch adjustments until your cuts were perfect...

                            TIG

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                              TIG Moderator
                              last edited by 19 Aug 2012, 09:00

                              Roger - that looks similar to a coffee-table I made over 35 years ago - remodeled in Sketchup...


                              tig_table.PNG

                              TIG

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                                Dave R
                                last edited by 19 Aug 2012, 12:24

                                I'd cut the joints with this:


                                http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7274/6922349406_40aa4eb0e4.jpg

                                πŸ˜„

                                A simple fixture as TIG mentions would make it simple to create accurate joints.

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                                  Roger
                                  last edited by 19 Aug 2012, 15:57

                                  @dave r said:

                                  I'd cut the joints with this:


                                  http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7274/6922349406_40aa4eb0e4.jpg

                                  πŸ˜„

                                  A simple fixture as TIG mentions would make it simple to create accurate joints.

                                  I would too if I had one.

                                  http://www.azcreative.com

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                                    Dave R
                                    last edited by 19 Aug 2012, 16:02

                                    I know where you can get one. πŸ˜‰

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                                      pilou
                                      last edited by 19 Aug 2012, 16:19

                                      In the case of the Puzzle headache...
                                      I am agree with all these tools can make any precision cuts but that can't say what "sides" must be increase or decrease! πŸ˜„
                                      Without the entiere solution's path known! πŸ˜’
                                      Else the gliding will be blocked at some place! πŸ’š
                                      It's not only the "nicks" but sometimes an entiere side face must be cut!
                                      And without the solution you can't build it! πŸ˜„

                                      Frenchy Pilou
                                      Is beautiful that please without concept!
                                      My Little site :)

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                                        guardoff
                                        last edited by 21 Sept 2012, 11:39

                                        Hello, Woodarc. I know how to do this joint (= I have worked out how to do it) the way that Japanese design house does it. Since I am brand-new to this forum, and don't know how to post photos, best you go to this link where I tell the whole story (for one sample joint):

                                        http://forums.delphiforums.com/n/main.asp?webtag=woodbutcher&nav=messages&msg=5596.18&prettyurl=%2Fwoodbutcher%2Fmessages%3Fmsg%3D5596%2E18

                                        It is a lot easier to make than the replies on this thread suggest - and easiest of all if you have a radial arm saw.

                                        Love this crazy forum. I will be back.

                                        Cheers
                                        Mark

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