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    Don Burns
    last edited by 12 Apr 2012, 19:52

    Manual SU by my above method. I'm sure it's a little slower than fredoscale and probably a little harder. Took about 25 min. and I should be doing something else, but this is more fun.


    paper9.jpg


    paper10.jpg


    paper11.jpg


    paper12.jpg

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      gilles
      last edited by 12 Apr 2012, 20:01

      @pbacot said:

      OK gilles I have to ask, what IS that avatar supposed to be?

      It's a dog.

      " c'est curieux chez les marins ce besoin de faire des phrases "

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        Gaieus
        last edited by 12 Apr 2012, 20:02

        Ha. I can see now. In fact, a male dog. 😄

        Gai...

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          pbacot
          last edited by 12 Apr 2012, 20:27

          😆 Sorry I asked.

          MacOSX MojaveSketchUp Pro v19 Twilight v2 Thea v3 PowerCADD

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            pbacot
            last edited by 12 Apr 2012, 20:30

            With FredOscale Free bending tool. I just like using it for the fun of it. Way more fun than doing my taxes.

            Start with rectangle. Make component. Put another rectangle vertical along direction of curl (I drew corner to corner) for setting the rotation. You have to bend a portion (I used 1/3). take off the straight portion (using edit component, choose flat face and edges, make component, cut, exit component, paste in place), bend that-- and repeat for total of three or more times, because you can only go 180 in each bend. Probably faster other ways? But this feels more "realistic" and you can adjust procedure for the curl you want.You explode and rejoin the portions at the end.

            "distinguished"? Now I'll have to grow a mustache.


            paper.png

            MacOSX MojaveSketchUp Pro v19 Twilight v2 Thea v3 PowerCADD

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              pilou
              last edited by 12 Apr 2012, 21:45

              @unknownuser said:

              you have to say how you made the spiral.

              Like the first post with the draw Helix 😉
              Draw any Helix / Copy Move then Scale it
              The beauty of the thing is all that take 5 seconds to make! 😉

              Frenchy Pilou
              Is beautiful that please without concept!
              My Little site :)

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                shahreza90
                last edited by 20 Apr 2012, 20:28

                Super cool! You guys just save me!

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                  brookefox
                  last edited by 20 Apr 2012, 22:08

                  @gilles said:

                  It's a dog.

                  I'm confused. I see what might be a tail, an organ, and an orifice but at that point my imagination can't hack it.

                                 **EDIT:** Now I get it. Before, I could not hear the splashing.
                  

                  Great tips on the model, folks. First I'm going to try Pilou's 5 second method. Be back in the morning sometime when I finish.

                  I'm back but for me the use of TIG's tool is not intuitive. I don't doubt that that is more a reflection of my limitations but one might need reminding that TIG's tool needs curves for the rails, as Pilou mentioned. So you need to draw even a straight edge as multiple sections or divide it and then weld it into a curve.


                  paper spiral.JPG

                  ~ Brooke

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                    gilles
                    last edited by 21 Apr 2012, 10:17

                    Definitely Shape Bender:


                    #paper.png

                    " c'est curieux chez les marins ce besoin de faire des phrases "

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                      pbacot
                      last edited by 21 Apr 2012, 16:43

                      @gilles said:

                      Definitely Shape Bender:

                      We never listen.

                      MacOSX MojaveSketchUp Pro v19 Twilight v2 Thea v3 PowerCADD

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                        Jim
                        last edited by 21 Apr 2012, 16:48

                        @gilles said:

                        @pbacot said:

                        OK gilles I have to ask, what IS that avatar supposed to be?

                        It's a dog.

                        [off:116hequd]Oh. Can not be unseen.[/off:116hequd]

                        Hi

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                          TIG Moderator
                          last edited by 21 Apr 2012, 21:36

                          [off:25v2rhb7]Un chien mâle qui pisse, vu de derrière 😲[/off:25v2rhb7]

                          TIG

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                            pilou
                            last edited by 21 Apr 2012, 21:52

                            Very conceptual avatar! 💚

                            Frenchy Pilou
                            Is beautiful that please without concept!
                            My Little site :)

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                              brookefox
                              last edited by 22 Apr 2012, 19:46

                              Thanks for learnin' me a little, after which, for me, extrude edges by rails works best, simply because I could not make the length of the helix and the diagonal to match so shape bender had an annoying error (the little projecting tab). How to make these equal? Note also the disagreement about the length of the scaled helix curve info=112', label=245'. I assume the scaling threw a wrench in the works?


                              paper spiral-1.JPG

                              ~ Brooke

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                                gilles
                                last edited by 1 May 2012, 20:23

                                #1 draw the path ( helix )
                                #2 select it, open entity info to get the length
                                #3 draw the line the same length
                                #4 draw the diagonal sheet the same length
                                #5 draw the sheet with circle tool set to 4 segments ( if you want a square sheet )
                                #6 erase the diagonal
                                #7 group the sheet
                                #8 run shape bender.....wait....
                                #9 resize the model with tape tool. done

                                it takes five minutes.

                                " c'est curieux chez les marins ce besoin de faire des phrases "

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                                  brookefox
                                  last edited by 1 May 2012, 22:25

                                  Thanks for that.

                                  Sly:
                                  @unknownuser said:

                                  #5 draw the sheet with circle tool set to 4 segments ( if you want a square sheet )

                                  Perhaps that method it is more accurate than 'extrude edges by rails' even if a little slower.

                                  ~ Brooke

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                                    gilles
                                    last edited by 1 May 2012, 22:35

                                    If your paper is square it's fast as you already have the diagonal.


                                    spiral-paper.png

                                    " c'est curieux chez les marins ce besoin de faire des phrases "

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                                      mitcorb
                                      last edited by 4 May 2012, 00:19

                                      Anybody tried Spirix on this? I am not sure if it can be applied here. Some more info, I think is in a thread back about 4months. As far as I know, the author doesn't post here.

                                      I take the slow, deliberate approach in my aimless wandering.

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                                        brookefox
                                        last edited by 4 May 2012, 00:40

                                        Heck, man. That thing looks real nifty.

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                                        spirixcode

                                        The Chaos Trilogy: Better Life Through ACME Available in Kindle format and paperback from Amazon. Spirix Plugin for SketchUp (works with SketchUp 2015, 2016, and 2017) The Spirix Ruby plugin allows you to revolve or extrude any 3D sequence of edges (both open and closed loop) about or along the

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                                        (sites.google.com)

                                        ~ Brooke

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                                          brookefox
                                          last edited by 4 May 2012, 17:47

                                          I like your way because it has the rotated sheet (corner up). I cannot do it faster than EEbyR, though.


                                          sheet rolled-1.JPG

                                          ~ Brooke

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