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    shahreza90
    last edited by 12 Apr 2012, 15:09

    Hi there, anyone knows how to make a model of a twisted spiral paper?

    Here are some photos

    http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-Jtbm6CIY-eg/T4bvl5l2vnI/AAAAAAAACAU/9-_RbiALK60/s1600/IMG_20120412_165900.jpg

    http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-SjNhL14b3EI/T4bvq_IKDwI/AAAAAAAACAc/PhZQRPX6GUg/s1600/IMG_20120412_165909.jpg

    http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-DpzsoiuhFxs/T4bvw9RDbzI/AAAAAAAACAk/7eNEkjlBNbQ/s1600/IMG_20120412_165917.jpg

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      pilou
      last edited by 12 Apr 2012, 15:37

      Maybe concept like this πŸ˜‰
      Draw helix by P Brawn explode it (because it is a group) length as you want (
      Draw 2 Straight lines Curves normaly in your case similar (minimum 2 Segments) inclined as you you want
      In your case redraw 2 spirals against the 2 lines a & d πŸ˜‰
      Call Extrude Edge by Rail by TIG
      Click b & Clik c are on the same curves
      Et voilΓ  πŸ˜„

      paper_corner.jpg

      Ps In fact your model is 4 spirals πŸ˜„

      Frenchy Pilou
      Is beautiful that please without concept!
      My Little site :)

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        solo
        last edited by 12 Apr 2012, 17:03

        Scratching head... hmmm, this is a challenge in SU.

        http://www.solos-art.com

        If you see a toilet in your dreams do not use it.

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          Don Burns
          last edited by 12 Apr 2012, 17:34

          paper1.jpgpaper2.jpgpaper3.jpgYou can draw a rectangle, divide it on the diagonally a bunch of times. figure out how many degrees around total the finished paper will be. The yellow one is about 28 sections bent at approx 15 deg. Bend in at a bigger angle alittle as you go will tighten the spiral at the end.

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            gilles
            last edited by 12 Apr 2012, 18:11

            Why not use shape bender?

            " c'est curieux chez les marins ce besoin de faire des phrases "

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              pilou
              last edited by 12 Apr 2012, 18:12

              Again Extrude by 2 rails
              2 Spirals, 2 arcs
              Just increase the number of turns of the spiral and adapt radius size for have that you want πŸ˜‰

              paper_corner1.jpg

              Frenchy Pilou
              Is beautiful that please without concept!
              My Little site :)

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                mwm5053
                last edited by 12 Apr 2012, 18:55

                and BTW why is name in green as with Pilou others in blue?

                Curios as to who figures out the spiral

                2011 iMac
                SU 2015 Pro, 2017 Make
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                macOS Sierra 10.12.5

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                  pbacot
                  last edited by 12 Apr 2012, 19:04

                  I think shape bender is more likely to be closer to the original paper size and shape.

                  OK gilles I have to ask, what IS that avatar supposed to be?

                  Pilou you have to say how you made the spiral.

                  MacOSX MojaveSketchUp Pro v19 Twilight v2 Thea v3 PowerCADD

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                    Gaieus
                    last edited by 12 Apr 2012, 19:07

                    Green names are "Top SketchUcators", distinguished forum members.

                    @unknownuser said:

                    "Top SketchUcators" are known as exceptionally active and helpful as well as highly skilled members of the SketchUcation Community Forums. This is a closed group, new members can only join upon invitation of a group leader.

                    They can, however, choose to remain a bit "under cover" and do not set that usergroup as their default so some of them are blue as regular members.

                    Gai...

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                      Don Burns
                      last edited by 12 Apr 2012, 19:52

                      Manual SU by my above method. I'm sure it's a little slower than fredoscale and probably a little harder. Took about 25 min. and I should be doing something else, but this is more fun.


                      paper9.jpg


                      paper10.jpg


                      paper11.jpg


                      paper12.jpg

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                        gilles
                        last edited by 12 Apr 2012, 20:01

                        @pbacot said:

                        OK gilles I have to ask, what IS that avatar supposed to be?

                        It's a dog.

                        " c'est curieux chez les marins ce besoin de faire des phrases "

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                          Gaieus
                          last edited by 12 Apr 2012, 20:02

                          Ha. I can see now. In fact, a male dog. πŸ˜„

                          Gai...

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                            pbacot
                            last edited by 12 Apr 2012, 20:27

                            πŸ˜† Sorry I asked.

                            MacOSX MojaveSketchUp Pro v19 Twilight v2 Thea v3 PowerCADD

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                              pbacot
                              last edited by 12 Apr 2012, 20:30

                              With FredOscale Free bending tool. I just like using it for the fun of it. Way more fun than doing my taxes.

                              Start with rectangle. Make component. Put another rectangle vertical along direction of curl (I drew corner to corner) for setting the rotation. You have to bend a portion (I used 1/3). take off the straight portion (using edit component, choose flat face and edges, make component, cut, exit component, paste in place), bend that-- and repeat for total of three or more times, because you can only go 180 in each bend. Probably faster other ways? But this feels more "realistic" and you can adjust procedure for the curl you want.You explode and rejoin the portions at the end.

                              "distinguished"? Now I'll have to grow a mustache.


                              paper.png

                              MacOSX MojaveSketchUp Pro v19 Twilight v2 Thea v3 PowerCADD

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                                pilou
                                last edited by 12 Apr 2012, 21:45

                                @unknownuser said:

                                you have to say how you made the spiral.

                                Like the first post with the draw Helix πŸ˜‰
                                Draw any Helix / Copy Move then Scale it
                                The beauty of the thing is all that take 5 seconds to make! πŸ˜‰

                                Frenchy Pilou
                                Is beautiful that please without concept!
                                My Little site :)

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                                  shahreza90
                                  last edited by 20 Apr 2012, 20:28

                                  Super cool! You guys just save me!

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                                    brookefox
                                    last edited by 20 Apr 2012, 22:08

                                    @gilles said:

                                    It's a dog.

                                    I'm confused. I see what might be a tail, an organ, and an orifice but at that point my imagination can't hack it.

                                                   **EDIT:** Now I get it. Before, I could not hear the splashing.
                                    

                                    Great tips on the model, folks. First I'm going to try Pilou's 5 second method. Be back in the morning sometime when I finish.

                                    I'm back but for me the use of TIG's tool is not intuitive. I don't doubt that that is more a reflection of my limitations but one might need reminding that TIG's tool needs curves for the rails, as Pilou mentioned. So you need to draw even a straight edge as multiple sections or divide it and then weld it into a curve.


                                    paper spiral.JPG

                                    ~ Brooke

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                                      gilles
                                      last edited by 21 Apr 2012, 10:17

                                      Definitely Shape Bender:


                                      #paper.png

                                      " c'est curieux chez les marins ce besoin de faire des phrases "

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                                        pbacot
                                        last edited by 21 Apr 2012, 16:43

                                        @gilles said:

                                        Definitely Shape Bender:

                                        We never listen.

                                        MacOSX MojaveSketchUp Pro v19 Twilight v2 Thea v3 PowerCADD

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                                          Jim
                                          last edited by 21 Apr 2012, 16:48

                                          @gilles said:

                                          @pbacot said:

                                          OK gilles I have to ask, what IS that avatar supposed to be?

                                          It's a dog.

                                          [off:116hequd]Oh. Can not be unseen.[/off:116hequd]

                                          Hi

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