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    • Alan FraserA Offline
      Alan Fraser
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      Something like the palette shouldn't be any problem at all. All the faces are on axis and at right angles to each other.
      Import a suitably grainy wood texture and paint it onto the top of one of the slats. There are only two possibilities...either it will be correctly aligned, or it will be 90° out. If it's correct, fine! just paint it onto any other faces oriented in the same direction (including any facing downwards too).
      If it's incorrect then right-click the surface and choose Texture > Position from the menu. You will get the texture preview with all the adjustment handles. Just ignore them and r-click again, this time choosing Rotate > 90. It should now be correct, so just sample it and copy to all others like it, as before.

      Then paint the same texture onto the side or end of the slat. It'll probably be correct for the side, but wrong for the end. Either way, just repeat the first process, working your way through the model.

      Edit: I assumed the slat was a component, obviously it's not. As Gaius says, make them all copies of the same component. That way, you'll only need to paint one of them. All the others will paint themselves automatically.

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      • TIGT Offline
        TIG Moderator
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        One top Z [blue] is UP.
        Your model is upside down !
        Also the tips about making repeated elements instances of the same component is very valid, it will save lots of time as you only need to 'texture' one and they all change to match.

        If you apply a textured material onto a group or component then any geometry inside it that has the default material will be given that material.
        The material applied like that uses the existing texture's size etc and is not editable otherwise.
        Capture1.PNGEditing the texture's size in the Materials Browser > Edit dialog [for example] affects all things using that textured-material.Capture.PNGIf you edit a group or component you can apply textured materials directly onto individual faces within that context.
        Textured materials applied to faces can be individually 'adjusted' as desired.
        To do this Select the face with the textured-material and right-click context-menu > Texture.
        This has various options to 'position' the texture - from moving it around on the surface, to rotating it, scaling etc.Capture2.PNGThere are several right-click tools with the position option to flip/rotate-orthogonally and so on. You can therefore quickly make things like wood-grain run in the various directions you want etc [I'd have two materials - one for long-grain and one for cross-grain (ends)]... There are also several free tools, like my TextureTools, that allow you to do positioning/rotations/scaling of textures using dialogs / arrow-keys / etc - that you might find more user-friendly ?

        TIG

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        • L Offline
          lecra
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          All,

          Many thanks for all your quick answers! Unbelievable that speed!

          I did now all what you said (have a look at the attachment). Doing that with the components it looks a bit unnatural, not? Every slate looks like the other. That could not be.

          But again, do I have really to position the textures again and again? If you take the under slates that are divided by the cubes, I have to paint and reposition every texture. It is not possible to copy the texture from one section to the other?

          palette.png


          Pallet_Texturing.skp

          KR; Lecra

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          • TIGT Offline
            TIG Moderator
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            A simple oblong slat has full symmetry.
            If you add a full bottom to the slat, then for the same slat-component you can have 3 different versions rotated 180 degrees around the 3 axes; there are also 3 mirrored versions [use Scale -1]. So you have lots of possible orientations of one slat component [6].
            Then if you add slightly different texture positions/rotations/handing etc for each of the six faces, placing differently oriented instances of the one slat-component will give enough visual variation...
            Or if not why not make two 'almost' identical slats and you have double the variation [12] !

            If you have a textured-material perfectly positioned on one face you can 'sample' it using the Material Browser's eyedropper and then paint it onto another face to match, you can always [re]position it a little to make it different from a neighboring piece too...

            🤓

            TIG

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            • Dave RD Offline
              Dave R
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              On making the planks look less like each other, TIG has a great suggestion with using both sides of the plank and flipping them end for end. Another thing I find useful is to use images of boards like this:


              http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7163/6680060463_32a27c7e35_z.jpg

              This is 8 or 9 feet long and this allows me to pick different parts of the same board image for either side of the plank. And with Make Unique used on, say, half the planks, I can get a lot more variety.

              Most of the wood grain images I use are between 7 and 12 feet long and typically 6 to 10 inches wide depending upon the speciies.

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              • L Offline
                lecra
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                @ TIG / Dave,

                I don't understand that! If I create a component for the upper plank, copy them 6 times, texturing them as discussed before, positioning the texture it looks equal for all the 6 planks. If I try to reposition the texture of the 3rd or 4th plank, every other plank texture will be also repositioned while this is the same component. So I don't understand your last suggestions!
                Or should I make some of the planks unique in order to change the look?

                Sorry for bothering you, but it seems really that I'm to old for that 😄

                KR; Lecra

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                • GaieusG Offline
                  Gaieus
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                  After texturing the planks, you can flip/rotate individual planks either horizontally or vertically so the grain repetition won't be as noticeable as it is now. For some reason, there are white parts in your wood material. Why is that? (This will prevent good texturing all around with the same material wrapped)

                  Gai...

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                  • Dave RD Offline
                    Dave R
                    last edited by

                    Here's a graphic example of what we are talking about.


                    http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7164/6683766669_d6bd161b9a_z.jpg

                    In the back left, four plank components with textures. This is similar to what you have.
                    Back right, all I did is flip components on their various axes I didn't even rotate any end for end. Remember, Flip is a mirroring operation, not a rotation. I could have randomized the placement of the order of the blanks a bit to help hide the face that it is the same materials on all the planks.

                    To illustrate what I was getting at with the long texture image...

                    ...in the middle is the pine texture I posted above. It is 8' long.
                    At the bottom, I made two planks unique from the other two and moved the texture image to use different parts of it on different boards. There's still some flipping being done.

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                    • L Offline
                      lecra
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                      Dave,

                      Many thanks for your explanations! I heard the bell ringing now ! 😄

                      I will try your method on the palette as well as on other objects and see how it works!

                      Many thanks for your fast support guy's! Much appreciated.

                      Kind regards, Lecra

                      KR; Lecra

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                      • C Offline
                        Centipede13
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                        @dave r said:

                        On making the planks look less like each other, TIG has a great suggestion with using both sides of the plank and flipping them end for end. Another thing I find useful is to use images of boards like this:


                        http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7163/6680060463_32a27c7e35_z.jpg

                        This is 8 or 9 feet long and this allows me to pick different parts of the same board image for either side of the plank. And with Make Unique used on, say, half the planks, I can get a lot more variety.

                        Most of the wood grain images I use are between 7 and 12 feet long and typically 6 to 10 inches wide depending upon the speciies.

                        How did you make your own texture?

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                        • TIGT Offline
                          TIG Moderator
                          last edited by

                          Get some suitable images [the Internet is downloaded with them!] and edit them as you will.
                          Use these as Textures in new Materials.
                          Save them as new SKM files, for use in any future SKPs...

                          TIG

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                          • Dave RD Offline
                            Dave R
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                            @centipede13 said:

                            How did you make your own texture?

                            What TIG said. Or take photos of real boards.

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