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    • jolranJ Offline
      jolran
      last edited by

      So you want 3 angular patterns? Is that it? Or a component placer based on pattern with "outer limits", sort of say? Interresting...

      Should maybe put a request-tag on this post. Don't know if this feature in a plugin excist. Maybe Copy Along Path...
      There are so many plugins, difficult to keep track of them all.

      Triangular pattern are more complexed. But I suppose one could copy a set of rows with double the spacingdistance for each copied row. Then in between those another set of row copies offset "sideways", to get the zigzag triangular pattern.

      However out in the "borders" you would now get zigzag components as well and that may not be wanted. Determin copy limits or wich components to erase to get a nice aligned outside frame is the hard part..

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      • J Offline
        Justo
        last edited by

        I didnt put the [REQ] cos I wasnt sure it existed, i tried searching but to no avail

        Triangular array - As in the vectorworks link you can create an irregular polygon and with the set spacing it autofills with the selected plant
        http://download2cf.nemetschek.net/www_misc/2010/Vectorworks 2010 Help/Data/15_DesignSeries/08_Plant_Irr/place_tri.png

        Component placer or construction points?

        Im sure Earthmover would have a better idea about it than I do.

        Cheers
        Justin

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        • TIGT Offline
          TIG Moderator
          last edited by

          Using a few guide-lines and the Move+Ctrl > Copy + Nx can duplicate objects at any angle in a linear array, then repeat on an angled line of objects Nx to make a 2d array [or repeat again even up in Z to make a 3d array!]. Erase unwanted objects outside of any 2d polygon you have?
          Jolran's new hatching tools could replicate this 2d arraying in a given polygon for you...

          TIG

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          • jolranJ Offline
            jolran
            last edited by

            There are eager young new code-sharks out there just waiting for a new idea to jump on, so it's a good idea putting [REQ] on it.

            @unknownuser said:

            TIG wrote:

            Jolran's new hatching tools could replicate this 2d arraying in a given polygon for you...

            Yes, but I think he want's 3d components. Besides, I'll think it will never get out in public, unless I become a JS expert. This webdialog stuff is hartbreaking πŸ˜„ .

            Seriously though. I think Justo have a good idea for a plugin here.

            I'm not gonna hijack this thread, but turning some of the parts in hatchfaces to make a new 3d components tiler based on patterns, would be cool. I can consider working on that..

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            • J Offline
              Justo
              last edited by

              2d hatchfaces seems to be the closest thing to what Im looking for... Although, using the 2d hatchfaces plugin within a polygon selecting cross hatching and 30deg gives the right shape triangles, although entering 1m spacing ends up being 1.155m, and then using components or contruction points on the intersections, and delete the group.
              Is it possible to populate intersections with components or construction points (or whatever)?
              Apologies if this makes no sense, im tired and its past my bedtime...

              Cheers
              Justin

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              • jolranJ Offline
                jolran
                last edited by

                Ahhhh.. I did not understand that TIG meant to use crosshatching in current version of hatchfaces. Rather tiling of some triangular pattern in upcoming versions..Never mind.

                @unknownuser said:

                entering 1m spacing ends up being 1.155m

                Well acctually it's not. For each edge that is. Spacing is perpendicular to degrees selection.
                It only looks that way when crosshatching skews lines together.
                Try using 45 degrees. Or if you want to use 30 degrees try using 866 mm spacing instead.

                @unknownuser said:

                Is it possible to populate intersections with components or construction points (or whatever)?

                Not quite yet. Thats a whole new plugin. But try exploding lines onto face. The you will get an intersection where you can put stuff.

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                • jolranJ Offline
                  jolran
                  last edited by

                  Shark πŸ˜‰

                  Maybe use selected component instead of a list. When I tried it the list went out of screen, filled with components. It remembers last created/selected component? That's nice and enough then?

                  Some components get outside the bounds, but that behavior is hard to predict IF you are going to expand the plugin to work in all axes.

                  Nicely done.

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                  • J Offline
                    Justo
                    last edited by

                    I do believe thats what I was after. Thanks sdmitch!
                    Triangular Array with plants

                    Some components did place outside area, more to do with origin center (which was in the area) of the individual component i think
                    I didnt have a problem with the dropdown menu, mainly cos I didnt have components in the new file

                    Would I be painful if I was to ask if the angle could be selectable so it could be set for 45deg and 0 deg, just so all the arrays are in one spot? (Im looking at the script and dont understand any of it to try to do it myself)

                    Thanks everyone for your input!

                    Cheers
                    Justin

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                    • J Offline
                      Justo
                      last edited by

                      Sorry, the 2nd one is directional changing (I think?) I didnt explain properly, I think I meant like a rectangular array of the same based on the triangular array concept, but you can change the angle to 45deg as below.
                      arrays.png

                      I imagine it must have to be a seperate plugin?

                      Cheers
                      Justin

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                      • J Offline
                        Justo
                        last edited by

                        @sdmitch said:

                        @justo said:

                        :sketchstatic:

                        @unknownuser said:

                        so all the arrays are in one spot?
                        Not sure what you mean.

                        One plugin to rule them all.
                        'Array plugin' which has the Triangular, Rectangular, and Rectangular on 45deg (or defineable angle) arrays.
                        Possible?

                        Thanks again!

                        Cheers
                        Justin

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                        • J Offline
                          Justo
                          last edited by

                          Awesome thanks for that

                          Cheers
                          Justin

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                          • dereiD Offline
                            derei
                            last edited by

                            Please put in the first post the final version.
                            Thank you. I can't wait to try it!

                            DESIGNER AND ARTIST [DEREI.UK](http://derei.uk/l)

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                            • Chris FullmerC Offline
                              Chris Fullmer
                              last edited by

                              Sam, to make it easier to maintain for us mods, you could post a new topic for the plugin, and remove the plugin from this thread. And add some links in this thread to the plugin thread.

                              That way we can easily update our plugins list and give you credit for the plugin. Thanks!

                              Chris

                              Lately you've been tan, suspicious for the winter.
                              All my Plugins I've written

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                              • J Offline
                                Justo
                                last edited by

                                Having a play with the first script (The Triangular array)
                                Changing

                                pt0.offset!(Y_AXIS,interval*0.866);#puts"next pt0=#{pt0}"
                                

                                to

                                pt0.offset!(ya,interval*1);#puts"next pt0=#{pt0}"
                                

                                I end up with the below image
                                Paving running bond/stretcher

                                The axis is on the left bottom of the paver
                                and the spacing is almost 0.492 (from memory) from the side on x and y axis, using a 1m square component.

                                With the below if I centralise the axis it overlaps as shown below.
                                How is the start point defined? (to have them start on the edge?)

                                Also, if i was to have a 2m x 1m component, where do I change that?

                                Paver with centralised axis

                                Once again... Thanks

                                Cheers
                                Justin

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                                • J Offline
                                  Justo
                                  last edited by

                                  Oops sorry guys

                                  Cheers
                                  Justin

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                                  • TIGT Offline
                                    TIG Moderator
                                    last edited by

                                    Thanks sdmitch
                                    can I suggest you also tweak
                                    @ent = mod.entities
                                    to
                                    @ent = mod.active_entities
                                    so the user can place things inside groups while editing them - at the moment everything goes into the model even if you run the tool inside an edit context!
                                    I also reiterate Chris's request to start a new thread so the plugin is 'managed' better...

                                    TIG

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                                    • jolranJ Offline
                                      jolran
                                      last edited by

                                      Way to go Sdmitch. Nice update πŸ‘

                                      There is only one issue as I see it(look pic). But then again fixing this could be going into the domain of one of Chris Fullmer tools. And if we are gonna follow point 1) http://forums.sketchucation.com/viewtopic.php?f=180&t=12423 then you might already have what is needed in your plugin..

                                      Congrats!


                                      smidth plugin.jpg

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                                      • sdmitchS Offline
                                        sdmitch
                                        last edited by

                                        Justin, If you have a 1m X 2m component then,pt0.offset!(xa,interval) and pt0.offset!(ya,interval*2) or add a seperate input for the Y interval.

                                        Jolran, I assume you want the option to place the components perpendicular to the face?

                                        TIG, done.

                                        Chris, will do.

                                        Nothing is worthless, it can always be used as a bad example.

                                        http://sdmitch.blogspot.com/

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                                        • sdmitchS Offline
                                          sdmitch
                                          last edited by

                                          justo, try this plugin, I think it will do what you want.

                                          Plugin can be found at
                                          http://forums.sketchucation.com/viewtopic.php?f=323&t=40244


                                          results tor Triangular Array.rb

                                          Nothing is worthless, it can always be used as a bad example.

                                          http://sdmitch.blogspot.com/

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                                          • sdmitchS Offline
                                            sdmitch
                                            last edited by

                                            @justo said:

                                            :sketchstatic:

                                            Would I be painful if I was to ask if the angle could be selectable so it could be set for 45deg and 0 deg, just so all the arrays are in one spot? (Im looking at the script and dont understand any of it to try to do it myself)

                                            Thanks everyone for your input!

                                            Added angle input and 3d capability so face can be tilted.

                                            @unknownuser said:

                                            so all the arrays are in one spot?
                                            Not sure what you mean.

                                            Plugin can be found at
                                            http://forums.sketchucation.com/viewtopic.php?f=323&t=40244

                                            Nothing is worthless, it can always be used as a bad example.

                                            http://sdmitch.blogspot.com/

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