[Plugin] CleanUp

rspierenburg · 15 Feb 2011, 14:28

I loved the first iteration of this plugin. I've tried to install the new version and receive this error on startup:

Error Loading File tt_cleanup.rb
undefined method is_windows?' for TT::System:Module Error Loading File tt_guide_tools.rb undefined method is_windows?' for TT::System:Module

I've removed both the plugin and the TT_lib2 folder and re-installed both but no change. Any ideas? I'm really looking forward to getting this plugin to work, you do great work, keep it up.

Thanks in advance,
Rob

rspierenburg · 15 Feb 2011, 15:42

Found out what the problem is...or rather..solution. I guessing the problem has to do with administrative rights somehow. Because if I set the Sketchup 8 Desktop shortcut to 'Run with administrative rights' then there is no error. Not sure what in the system.rb requires administration rights other than what I have but it works for now I guess.

Rob

thomthom · 15 Feb 2011, 16:22

@rspierenburg said:

Found out what the problem is...or rather..solution. I guessing the problem has to do with administrative rights somehow. Because if I set the Sketchup 8 Desktop shortcut to 'Run with administrative rights' then there is no error. Not sure what in the system.rb requires administration rights other than what I have but it works for now I guess.

Rob

There shouldn't be anything. But - Vista and Win7 got something called compatibility mode where Windows place folders in a hidden location elsewhere on the system - though this is not visible to the user. It could be that this caused an older version to be loaded.
When you're in the Plugins folder, do you see a Compatibility Files button in Explorer?

rspierenburg · 15 Feb 2011, 17:03

Actually I do. So what exactly does this other folder do? Does it store older versions of the files that are in it? I've never noticed it before. But now that I see it I noticed there are other plugins that I couldn't find before.

rspierenburg · 15 Feb 2011, 17:08

Yup, that did the trick. I just deleted the TT_Lib2 folder from the 'Compatibility' folder and everything starts up as it should. Thanks for the tip, and the wonderful plugins.

Rob

thomthom · 15 Feb 2011, 19:01

@rspierenburg said:

Actually I do. So what exactly does this other folder do? Does it store older versions of the files that are in it? I've never noticed it before. But now that I see it I noticed there are other plugins that I couldn't find before.

I'm not very familiar with it - but I've heard some reports on it.

TIG · 15 Feb 2011, 19:06

It tries to stop you updating files/folders in 'Program Files' so the versions in 'Compatibility Files' version is likely to be newer and the older version left unchanged. It depends how you copy/move over the files... Give yourself wide-ranging access-rights to Sketchup folder and subfolders/files - the Compatibility Files won't bug-you

bagatelo · 18 Feb 2011, 13:35

I think this is good option to insert in this plugin:

http://forums.sketchucation.com/viewtopic.php?f=180&t=35180

bagatelo · 18 Feb 2011, 15:05

Do not worry. I've done that.

Your version 3 of the cleanup is not working properly, when I select to delete duplicate faces.

Error 404 (Not Found)!!1

(sketchup.google.com)

I modified your previous version of the plugin cleanup and working properly. It's a pity that this did not erase non solid surfaces within groups. But this is not so bad.

tt_limpa.rb

thomthom · 18 Feb 2011, 15:54

@bagatelo said:

Your version 3 of the cleanup is not working properly, when I select to delete duplicate faces.

The Erase Duplicate Faces feature is a bit unstable. It's hard to properly figure out when a face is overlapping another. Though on the model you provided that feature would do no good anyway, since that pillow is a solid.
Erase Duplicate Faces is intended to address faces where you see Z-fighting.

I tested your model, with just Erase Duplicate Faces and no faces disappeared.
It happens with Merge Coplanar Faces. (Ignore Normals and Ignore UVs)
I'm pretty sure it's because the mesh has some very small faces. Some edges are less than a millimeter. SketchUp doesn't deal with small geometry like that very well.
If you scale the geometry up a few times (the definition, not the instance) you'll see that no faces disappear.

@bagatelo said:

I modified your previous version of the plugin cleanup and working properly.

The faces didn't disappear? That might be, as the old version had a tendency to not clean up as much as it should. It's a very buggy version which in this case just happen to cover up a weakness in SketchUp.

I strongly recommend not using the older versions of CleanUp as version 3.1 has fixed a great number of bugs and issues which in other cases can cause you to loose geometry. The only thing you need to take care of is ensuring that your mesh doesn't have very small faces because SketchUp begins to acts odd then. Scale up small geometry before cleanup and you'll be fine.

bagatelo · 18 Feb 2011, 16:03

Did you see/test your "tt_limpa.rb" ?

tt_limpa.rb

thomthom · 18 Feb 2011, 16:28

I looked at it briefly. Added your request to the list of things to look at for future version. But it won't happen immediately. Got some other projects I need to attend. ( Also, I've been ill for a week - still am - so I've got quite a bit of catching up to do when my head stops throbbing.)

bagatelo · 18 Feb 2011, 18:58

Wow, what a pity. I am sorry you are sick. Health to you!

bagatelo · 23 Feb 2011, 12:44

I think this can be useful: http://forums.sketchucation.com/viewtopic.php?f=18&t=35291

@bagatelo said:

I would like to share here a technique to export models from 3dsmax Autodesk to google sketchup using 3ds files.

Please download the file: DetachElements.mcr in this site:
http://www.scriptspot.com/3ds-max/scripts/detach-elements

Then insert this file in the folder:
C:\Program Files (x86)\Autodesk\3ds Max 2010\Scripts\Startup

I import the model to be exported into the Sketchup into the 3dsmax, I press on the keyboard Alt+NumPad2 and after this Alt+NumPad3. What do these shortcuts?

Alt + NumPad2 Separates groups in all elements of the model, using the script mentioned above.
Alt + NumPad3 Makes 'Reset Xform'.

After that it's only export to Google Sketchup, that objects do not come all messed up.

Surely you want to use the plugin CleanUP done by thomthom.

Thanks..

cadmunkey · 23 Feb 2011, 16:08

Great ruby, just halved the size of my current model. Cheers!

JPMays · 25 Feb 2011, 21:01

ThomThom,

I've been having a lot of success with this plugin so far, but I just came across a few problems. First, running Merge Faces on my model deletes geometry, and also it isn't actually merging most of my co planar faces:

Before running merge faces:

After merge faces:

See deleted and non-merged faces circled in red.

thomthom · 28 Feb 2011, 09:04

Can you share the model? Or send it directly to me if you don't want it shared in public?
Without the model it's hard to determine what's going on.

(The scale of the model isn't very small, is it?)
And do you have Erase Duplicate Faces on or off? (leave it off unless you have problems with faces overlapping the same space. it's very slow and can be buggy)

JPMays · 28 Feb 2011, 14:26

No, the model is not small scale, in fact it's pretty large. No, I have not had erase duplicate faces checked.

I'll pm you with the file.

thomthom · 28 Feb 2011, 14:52

The disappearing faces seems to be related to some rouge faces with area of 0 - or close to. Some very very thing faces which throws off the calculations. I'll see if I can find time this week to find a way to deal with them.

The co-planar faces that where not merged: I could not test these as the model you sent appear to be somewhat different that the once you posted screens off. Doesn't seem to include the faces.

thomthom · 28 Feb 2011, 14:58

SketchUp considers all the edges in these troublesome faces to be all parallel to each other. I might be able to use that as a way to detect potentially troublesome faces.