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    • numbthumbN Offline
      numbthumb
      last edited by

      Huh? 😲
      Sometimes I wonder if all this 3D hassle is worthy of my time or not. I used to soothe myself thinking how 3D printing would spark my "home manufacturing revolution", but now that I have seen this...A real hand-made that still beats the cr@p out of 3D printing as far as I am concerned.
      Makes me want to build scale models again. Plus the glue fumes...
      Congratulations, Simon! 👍

      Comfortably numb...

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      • michaliszissiouM Offline
        michaliszissiou
        last edited by

        This is the kind of sculpture I like Simon.
        Nice 3d printing. 😆

        Great work !!!!

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        • pilouP Offline
          pilou
          last edited by

          Ethnologic! 😎

          Frenchy Pilou
          Is beautiful that please without concept!
          My Little site :)

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          • simon le bonS Offline
            simon le bon
            last edited by

            Hi guys,
            You're nice and kind 👍 😄

            I have made a speed test with import export .obj

            Native "File/Export as Obj" with SU7 pro works fine.

            Tig's OBJexporter and Import OBJ with Materials worked perfectly with Su6 free. (thank you a lot dear TIG)


            http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj245/Spendauballet/Sculptris/thbiscotte_import_00.jpg

            remind: from Scuptris included documentation

            @unknownuser said:

            Import OBJ - Import an existing OBJ file. Useful if you want multiple objects for sculpting, or somewhat more complex topology than a sphere. Compatibility is limited. Use single closed triangulated mesh(es) without sharp corners, and with less than 24 connections per vertex (no high-resolution spheres, unless they are geospheres)

            In Fact, there is no need to produce a model "without sharp corners" after some tries I had mad a simple "hard square" and this worked.

            http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj245/Spendauballet/Sculptris/thbiscotte_import_02.jpg

            No need also to subdivide the model into SU. Sculptris do the job itself easily using "Subdivide All" button

            http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj245/Spendauballet/Sculptris/thbiscotte_import_03.jpg

            The various tools expend the subdivision in relation with Detail slider.

            http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj245/Spendauballet/Sculptris/thbiscotte_import_04.jpg

            There is also a "Reduce Selected" button in order to export back to SU a reduced mesh which works on the full model,
            (4 or 5 iterations:)

            http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj245/Spendauballet/Sculptris/thbiscotte_import_05.jpg


            http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj245/Spendauballet/Sculptris/thbiscotte_import_06.jpg

            And more handy, I have used "Reduce Brush" button to reduce by zones.

            http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj245/Spendauballet/Sculptris/reducebrush.jpg


            http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj245/Spendauballet/Sculptris/thbiscotte_import_07.jpg


            http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj245/Spendauballet/Sculptris/thbiscotte_import_08.jpg

            At the end, "cherry on the cake" I have used Chris Fullmer's Extrapolate Colors to make a harlequin render.


            http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj245/Spendauballet/Sculptris/thbiscotte_import_09.jpg


            http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj245/Spendauballet/Sculptris/thbiscotte_import_10.jpg


            http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj245/Spendauballet/Sculptris/thbiscotte_import_11.jpg

            Cheers,
            Simon.

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            • pilouP Offline
              pilou
              last edited by

              You have also Random Painter by Chris Fullmer! 😉

              Else it's a very cool workflow for make "subdivision and Smooth" with SU6! (or up) 😎

              @ Simon :Je te "pique" le tut, le traduis et te donne l'adresse où je le mets dès qu'il est fait 👍
              Ok traduction faite 😎
              Je vais évidemment la mettre aussi sur la "French Section" à SketchEducation 😉

              Frenchy Pilou
              Is beautiful that please without concept!
              My Little site :)

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              • shuraS Offline
                shura
                last edited by

                👍
                Nice harlequin technique, can also do a good job in case you want to do one of Gaudi's rooftop sculptures...

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                • pilouP Offline
                  pilou
                  last edited by

                  The cool thing of this, is that you can use use the "pressure" inside Sculptis 😉

                  Frenchy Pilou
                  Is beautiful that please without concept!
                  My Little site :)

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                  • numbthumbN Offline
                    numbthumb
                    last edited by

                    Thanks for keeping us informed, Simon. 👍
                    Very interesting workaround for organic modeling.

                    Comfortably numb...

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                    • simon le bonS Offline
                      simon le bon
                      last edited by

                      ☀ Hi!

                      If I have verified the import/export abilities between SU and Sculptris,
                      And also have verified that tools of Sculptris worked on Su "waterproof" models,
                      the "traduction" of Pilou point out better than I had done the rich combination SketchUP/Sculptris to make subdivisions job.!!

                      We know how Su and the better quadcore are easily put on their knees by subdivision operations.. Sculptris make the job: "fingers in the nose" so 😉 !!

                      See you soon,

                      Simon.

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                      • jason_marantoJ Offline
                        jason_maranto
                        last edited by

                        Very interesting work -- I have used Z-brush and I have contemplated 3-D Coat but Sculptris seems to be a viable alternative.

                        The harlequin technique was very appealing as well...

                        Best,
                        Jason.

                        I create video tutorial series about several 2D & 3D graphics programs.

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                        • simon le bonS Offline
                          simon le bon
                          last edited by

                          an exercise to make ears

                          Yes I know you know this girl too 😆


                          http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj245/Spendauballet/Sculptris/th2011-02-04_160550.jpg


                          http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj245/Spendauballet/Sculptris/th2011-02-04_160658.jpg


                          http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj245/Spendauballet/Sculptris/th2011-02-04_160807.jpg


                          http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj245/Spendauballet/Sculptris/th2011-02-04_161211.jpg


                          http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj245/Spendauballet/Sculptris/th2011-02-04_161519.jpg


                          http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj245/Spendauballet/Sculptris/th2011-02-04_161644.jpg

                          😎 simon

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                          • pilouP Offline
                            pilou
                            last edited by

                            Beautiful ears! 👍

                            Frenchy Pilou
                            Is beautiful that please without concept!
                            My Little site :)

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                            • numbthumbN Offline
                              numbthumb
                              last edited by

                              With such auditory input, she´s gonna go bananas. 😄
                              Your imagination has no limits, Simon. 👍

                              Comfortably numb...

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                              • R Offline
                                rattusNOR
                                last edited by

                                cool! a dedicated forum for organic modelling!
                                simon, thank you for posting the sculptris/sketchup combo,
                                i can only get it to work with rounded-corners, i can import a square with
                                sharp corners too, but when subdivide or just touch it with a brush it "explode"
                                and can not keep it's shape like you did here:

                                http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj245/Spendauballet/Sculptris/thbiscotte_import_03.jpg

                                just wondered if you had encounter this problem too before you got it right,
                                it may be graphic-card issue.. my sculptris crash a lot.

                                anyway, keep up the good work 👍

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                                • simon le bonS Offline
                                  simon le bon
                                  last edited by

                                  Hi Rattus,

                                  I'm pursuing my tests. As I had named the title, it is for me a "learn In Progress" and I'm happy if we are several to search. 👍

                                  First, concerning your problem.
                                  The point is that Sculptris only accept meshes= triangulated model.
                                  You had certainly used the 3D Obj exporting ability of SketchUp "Pro". Doing this, the model is not exported with faces as meshes = they are not triangulated.

                                  Using TIG OBJexporter,

                                  @unknownuser said:

                                  All Exported Faces are Triangulated,
                                  so that Sculptris accept.

                                  The other solutions for this:
                                  is to use SU pro obj exporter after have triangulated the model with (once again 😆 👍 ) TIG triangulateFaces(take care to follow the link at the end of the first post which lead to the latest version included in page two)

                                  TIG triangulateFaces

                                  http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj245/Spendauballet/Sculptris/2011-02-07_145604.jpg


                                  http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj245/Spendauballet/Sculptris/th2011-02-07_140408.jpg


                                  http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj245/Spendauballet/Sculptris/th2011-02-07_140947.jpg


                                  TIG OBJexporter

                                  http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj245/Spendauballet/Sculptris/2011-02-07_151031.jpg


                                  http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj245/Spendauballet/Sculptris/th2011-02-07_151235.jpg

                                  The point where my enthusiasm is very lowered is the difficulty (crash,crash,crash) to re-import the sculpture into Su.
                                  In a bit complex model, despite all my efforts to diminish the number of triangulation Su is unable to accept the import. (If you can wait, I'm looking for a solution.)

                                  http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj245/Spendauballet/Sculptris/2011-02-07_195339.jpg


                                  http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj245/Spendauballet/Sculptris/th2011-02-07_135045.jpg


                                  http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj245/Spendauballet/Sculptris/th2011-02-07_135357.jpg


                                  http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj245/Spendauballet/Sculptris/th2011-02-07_135945.jpg

                                  The avowed purpose is to bridge Sculptris to SketchUp to achieve all these architecture details sculptures for which SU is so low gifted.
                                  Well Subdivide&Smooth V2 is not very far to be out and I think it will be very efficient in that purpose...

                                  simon

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                                  • pilouP Offline
                                    pilou
                                    last edited by

                                    no possibility to go to Meshlab, before go to Su? 😉

                                    Frenchy Pilou
                                    Is beautiful that please without concept!
                                    My Little site :)

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                                    • simon le bonS Offline
                                      simon le bon
                                      last edited by

                                      Hi Pilou
                                      Meshlab is now installed 😉
                                      Whao! very powerful = relatively simple but complex by the quantity of possible actions..
                                      (haven't found undo command 😞 )

                                      I've made a quick test on my initial model (not very perfect: holes (ripped), hidden vertices etc..)
                                      305.310 faces:

                                      http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj245/Spendauballet/Sculptris/th2011-02-07_230327.jpg

                                      after cleaning and repairing : -merge close vertices ; -remove duplicate faces

                                      I have remeshed : clustered decimation (50%)

                                      40.854 faces:!: ❗
                                      But we can notice an evident lower quality of the details

                                      http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj245/Spendauballet/Sculptris/th2011-02-07_235341.jpg

                                      (saved as .OBJ)

                                      Then,
                                      in SU6 free with TIG Import OBJ with Materials
                                      (plugins menu- options: import in meters, import mesh only, flip yes)
                                      The object loads 😍

                                      Re:about 50000 faces, Su is coming slow and we are probably not very far from the limit...


                                      http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj245/Spendauballet/Sculptris/th2011-02-07_234715.jpg


                                      http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj245/Spendauballet/Sculptris/th2011-02-07_234832.jpg

                                      Yehh! not too bad 😄

                                      Thank you Pilou.

                                      ++simon

                                      Re: May be it is a good occasion for me to try ThomThom Cleanup 😉

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                                      • simon le bonS Offline
                                        simon le bon
                                        last edited by

                                        After a night, some reflection and a discuss with SCF guys,

                                        Regis wrote in the french Section:

                                        @unknownuser said:

                                        I have no pre-conceived upon the technique used by Sculptris but I think it's super polygons gluttonous. Increasing the resolution for more details, polygons count skyrockets.

                                        I prefer the standard polygonal technical modeling with faces subdivision, I find that this gives more control over the topology of the mesh and give a better control on the number of polygons.

                                        This inspire a conclusion:
                                        Régis is probably right on the polygonal modeling technique.
                                        Sculptris is really nice but can't be the perfect companion to SketchUp which is so weak to manage a high rate of polygons..

                                        😞 simon

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                                        • pilouP Offline
                                          pilou
                                          last edited by

                                          And the Thomthom clean up don't make some polygones reductions?

                                          Frenchy Pilou
                                          Is beautiful that please without concept!
                                          My Little site :)

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                                          • mitcorbM Offline
                                            mitcorb
                                            last edited by

                                            For my elderly machine, Sculptris is torture. Yes, you can run it, but it just bogs down the CPU with only 1.6GHz. Also, my video card renders the model oddly.

                                            I take the slow, deliberate approach in my aimless wandering.

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