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    • jeff hammondJ Offline
      jeff hammond
      last edited by

      ok, cool.. i'm glad i'm getting my point across now.. i admit, i'm no wordsmith. πŸ™‚

      the thing about what's logical or not is confusing because sketchup deals with it two different ways.. if i use edit -> select all (⌘A) or the select tool's window to encompass everything, then the hidden lines remain hidden and unselected (unless i have hidden geometry turned on)... if i use a triple click, then it includes everything including the hidden geometry...
      i'm basing mine off the first choice but the other one makes just as much sense to me.. i just hope both situations are easy to deal with in ruby language (which i know Absolutely zero about)

      dotdotdot

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      • GaieusG Offline
        Gaieus
        last edited by

        Ah yes, triple select always selects hidden geometry as well. I haven't figured out its logic in this but there may be one.

        However I'm a total non-programmer so I can only use scripts. πŸ˜„

        Gai...

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        • TIGT Offline
          TIG Moderator
          last edited by

          Now I see...

          Here v1.1 - it works the same as before, BUT if the selection includes faces then it now assumes you want to include those faces' edges in the selection (visible/hidden/smoothed) even if you haven't explicitly picked any edges: then when it inverts the selection (and say you delete the now selected stuff) any previously selected faces AND their edges are retained...

          Feedback please...

          Gaieus - you might want to move this to the Ruby realms...


          invertselection.rb

          TIG

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          • pilouP Offline
            pilou
            last edited by

            works fine when you delete
            but when you hide seems curious result πŸ˜‰
            (hidden geometry was enable for select facett then disable after selection and only 2 facets were selected)

            Edited : all works fine, it was only result when you click on the selected facetts! πŸ‘


            invert3.jpg

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            • GaieusG Offline
              Gaieus
              last edited by

              @tig said:

              ...Gaieus - you might want to move this to the Ruby realms...

              Yeah, it makes sense - "done".
              Thanks for the update, TIG! πŸ‘

              Gai...

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              • jeff hammondJ Offline
                jeff hammond
                last edited by

                @tig said:

                Here v1.1

                wow TIG.. you_are_the_man

                thank you!

                dotdotdot

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                • P Offline
                  pvbuero
                  last edited by

                  @ TIG,

                  that's just fantastic what you're doing here.
                  I face a problem an two minutes later it's been solved thanks to your script. Great πŸ˜„

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                  • thomthomT Offline
                    thomthom
                    last edited by

                    @pvbuero said:

                    two minutes later

                    ...and two years later there is a reply... πŸ˜†

                    Thomas Thomassen β€” SketchUp Monkey & Coding addict
                    List of my plugins and link to the CookieWare fund

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                    • J Offline
                      Jim
                      last edited by

                      Curious, has the selection behavior of hidden geom changed in recent versions?

                      Hi

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                      • thomthomT Offline
                        thomthom
                        last edited by

                        @jim said:

                        Curious, has the selection behavior of hidden geom changed in recent versions?

                        What/how do you mean?

                        Thomas Thomassen β€” SketchUp Monkey & Coding addict
                        List of my plugins and link to the CookieWare fund

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                        • J Offline
                          Jim
                          last edited by

                          Just my mind being illogical - it makes sense that hidden geoms are included when inverting the selection.
                          It always feels like hidden geoms should not be included in the active_entities collection.

                          Hi

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                          • jeff hammondJ Offline
                            jeff hammond
                            last edited by

                            @jim said:

                            Just my mind being illogical - it makes sense that hidden geoms are included when inverting the selection.

                            nah πŸ˜„

                            hidden geometry (by my logic at least) shouldn't come into the equation unless you have it turned on.. otherwise, it should remain hidden..

                            that said, this script will still mess with hidden geometry.. if i draw a cube and a sphere, hide the cube, select the sphere, then invert the selection... the hidden cube will become selected..

                            in my mind, when something is hidden, it should mean that no operations affect it.. it should be ignored..

                            using the sphere/cube example again.. if i hide the cube and do a 'select all', only the sphere(which is visible) will be selected.. that's how it should work i think.

                            [and the same could be said for a window select operation.. if something is hidden and i do a window select over it, it shouldn't be selected because i've chosen to hide it]

                            dotdotdot

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                            • J Offline
                              Jim
                              last edited by

                              @unknownuser said:

                              nah πŸ˜„

                              hidden geometry (by my logic at least) shouldn't come into the equation unless you have it turned on.. otherwise, it should remain hidden..

                              I agree from a user point of view; alttough I can see it both ways. I meant it's logical when using the Ruby API. Otherwise, there would be no way to reference hidden entities.

                              Hi

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                              • thomthomT Offline
                                thomthom
                                last edited by

                                But the API can access whether Hidden Geometry is on or not..

                                Thomas Thomassen β€” SketchUp Monkey & Coding addict
                                List of my plugins and link to the CookieWare fund

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                                • K Offline
                                  kwalkerman
                                  last edited by

                                  I recently wrote a plugin that will hide all unselected entities:

                                  http://forums.sketchucation.com/viewtopic.php?t=31378

                                  For some of you, this is what you are trying to accomplish by inverting the selection.

                                  I'm pretty sure I first inverted the selection, and then hid geometry, so you are welcome to look at the code and modify (or add a menu option).

                                  --
                                  Karen

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                                  • T Offline
                                    Trip12091
                                    last edited by

                                    This is an old post, but it comes up first on a google search for "Sketchup, invert selection". What I do is select the entire entity that I only want part of (usually a big spiral with 1000s of segments) and then hold down the shift key (you'll see the little + and - sign indicating you can add or subtract elements now) and I'll subtract the pieces I want to keep. Once they have been removed from the selection, I'll delete everything else.

                                    So, "inverse" for me means start by selecting everything as opposed to only selecting the things you want, once you have selected everything unselect the things you want to keep.

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                                    • R Offline
                                      runninghead
                                      last edited by

                                      Not quite what we're after though trip- imagine doing that with 1000 polys and lines by hand πŸ˜„

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                                      • SJS66S Offline
                                        SJS66
                                        last edited by

                                        InverseSelection is awesome. How'd I go so long without it? Thanks TIG.

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                                          LetsSee
                                          last edited by

                                          @thomthom said:

                                          @pvbuero said:

                                          two minutes later

                                          ...and two years later there is a reply... πŸ˜†

                                          And yet another TEN years later there is another reply πŸ˜†

                                          I am truly sorry that I so often come so late! I seem to have missed the best 10 years of sketchup, or rather pf the entire internet.

                                          Because today the formerly glorious internet has become a close-popups-close-autoplay-vids-close-cookie-confirmations-close-accept-privacy-not-accepted-close-your-eyes-or-suffer NIGHTMARE.

                                          LOL

                                          No, I am here to say: TIG, you ARE the man, indeed! SO MANY beyond-genious-beyond-cool-solutions I see from you! TIG for President!

                                          aka get rid of the current joke, yeah. 😲

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                                          • Dan RathbunD Offline
                                            Dan Rathbun
                                            last edited by

                                            Invert Selection is now native for SketchUp 2019.2 and later.
                                            You'll find the command on the right-click context menu for the Select Tool.

                                            See https://help.sketchup.com/en/sketchup/older-release-notes#su19-m2-whats-new

                                            @unknownuser said:

                                            Invert Selection. Just like the title suggests, it's the small things that help your workflow! This new feature will allow you to select anything, then invert the selection of objects. This makes it simple to select items and then perform actions on their inverse. The keyboard shortcut for this will be: CTRL + SHIFT + I (Windows) or CMD + SHIFT + I (Mac).

                                            I'm not here much anymore.

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