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    EarthMover
    last edited by 11 Oct 2010, 20:13

    @thomthom said:

    @earthmover said:

    (On a side note, can you implement a multiple copy array feature to your divide face tool? That would be very handy! 😛)

    It already has. After placing a line you can type * or / to add more lines. Even adjust the amounts.

    Perhaps I need to update my version then. The one I have doesn't. That's great news though! Sorry for the redundant questions. 😳

    EDIT - Ahhh, you're right, I'm an idiot. It seems the / key on the keyboard doesn't work, but the one on the Num pad works. I usually put my / or "x" after the number and I usually use "X" instead of * to make forward arrays. Using the * or / from the keypad and using them first instead of last works as expected. Sorry again for the bother.

    3D Artist at Clearstory 3D Imaging
    Guide Tool at Winning With Sketchup
    Content Creator at Skapeup

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      pilou
      last edited by 11 Oct 2010, 21:21

      @unknownuser said:

      And CPoint at intersection of Guides lines?

      if it's not a very hard work, sure with extrem pleasure! ☀
      (but maybe it's include with your last version, take me five minutes for test it 😄

      Frenchy Pilou
      Is beautiful that please without concept!
      My Little site :)

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        pilou
        last edited by 11 Oct 2010, 21:33

        Seems don't works for the V 6 😮
        I will test the V 7

        Works for the the V 7 ! ☀
        (so maybe i must intersect before in the V6 😉
        That is that!!! 😎
        Works in the V6 when I Intersect before! 👍
        (of course if you can make an autoùatic intersction in the V6 that will be luxuous ☀

        PS And you write 😉

        @unknownuser said:

        1.1.0 - 11.10.2010

        * CPoint at Edge-Face Intersection

        * CPoint at Edge-Edge Intersection

        Frenchy Pilou
        Is beautiful that please without concept!
        My Little site :)

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          thomthom
          last edited by 11 Oct 2010, 22:00

          Yea, I made the assumption that edges split each other, not just overlapping. I never use SU6 any more - forgotten it didn't auto-split edges.

          Thomas Thomassen — SketchUp Monkey & Coding addict
          List of my plugins and link to the CookieWare fund

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            pilou
            last edited by 11 Oct 2010, 22:01

            And this (not a big deal as I can move and re put) but... 😄

            it's because segments touch the perimeter? (only "loose" edges)
            worksnot.jpg

            Frenchy Pilou
            Is beautiful that please without concept!
            My Little site :)

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              pilou
              last edited by 11 Oct 2010, 22:02

              @unknownuser said:

              I never use SU6 any more

              😄 Yes old but so charming! 😎

              Frenchy Pilou
              Is beautiful that please without concept!
              My Little site :)

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                thomthom
                last edited by 11 Oct 2010, 22:09

                Nah - this is charming: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mOZqRJzE8xg

                Thomas Thomassen — SketchUp Monkey & Coding addict
                List of my plugins and link to the CookieWare fund

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                  pilou
                  last edited by 12 Oct 2010, 01:40

                  And one existential question with the Cpoint at Arcs Center! 🤓
                  (of course from a same circle trimed) 😉

                  existential.png

                  Frenchy Pilou
                  Is beautiful that please without concept!
                  My Little site :)

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                    pilou
                    last edited by 12 Oct 2010, 01:43

                    Very Romantic yes 😄

                    But there is a little problem 😮
                    That works not with that! 😲
                    (I have also tried with explode Circle, convert, erase..., not better) !
                    Good result must be 5 CPpoints !
                    worksnot1.jpg

                    Else of course your plug if very fun (and useful) for this sort of thing 😉
                    CPoint at Circle Center
                    Insert Components at CPoints 👍
                    And of course Selection Toys for Select CPoints 😉

                    http://forums.sketchucation.com/download/file.php?id=56417

                    Frenchy Pilou
                    Is beautiful that please without concept!
                    My Little site :)

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                      thomthom
                      last edited by 12 Oct 2010, 06:20

                      @unknownuser said:

                      Very Romantic yes 😄
                      But there is a little problem 😮
                      That works not with that! 😲
                      (I have also tried with explode Circle, convert, erase..., not better) !
                      Good result must be 5 CPpoints !
                      [attachment=0:26fwmhk5]<!-- ia0 -->worksnot1.jpg<!-- ia0 -->[/attachment:26fwmhk5]

                      Are these edges that's split each other?
                      From your original request I thought you wanted cpoints at edge crossings if the edge where not part of a face.
                      Maybe it should just not check if edges are connected to faces?
                      Should it only place a cpoint for overlapping edges (but does not split each other? )

                      @unknownuser said:

                      And one existential question with the Cpoint at Arcs Center! 🤓
                      (of course from a same circle trimed) 😉

                      [attachment=0:26fwmhk5]<!-- ia0 -->existential.png<!-- ia0 -->[/attachment:26fwmhk5]

                      I don't understand the question...
                      ?

                      Thomas Thomassen — SketchUp Monkey & Coding addict
                      List of my plugins and link to the CookieWare fund

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                        pilou
                        last edited by 12 Oct 2010, 07:18

                        Should it only place a cpoint for overlapping edges (but does not split each other? )
                        In fact just put a CPoint at any real intersections of a selection of lines and/or circles, arc circle and /or curves
                        on faces or in the space
                        (i don't know if it's an hard work or not) 😳

                        for the existential question 😄
                        an Arc Circle A has a Cpoint CPA, xa , ya, za
                        an Arc Circle B has a Cpoint CPB xb, yb, zb

                        but of course as you can see on my previous image
                        because arc are from a same circle
                        xa = xb, ya = yb, za = zb
                        So my question what about this "double CPoint"?
                        is there 2 Cpoints or you merge it in only one?

                        Frenchy Pilou
                        Is beautiful that please without concept!
                        My Little site :)

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                          thomthom
                          last edited by 12 Oct 2010, 07:23

                          @unknownuser said:

                          In fact just put a CPoint at any real intersections of a selection of lines and/or circles, arc circle and /or curves
                          on faces or in the space

                          Where edges are split where they intersect? Or where they overlap - like they often do in SU6 and older?

                          @unknownuser said:

                          So my question what about this "double CPoint"?
                          is there 2 Cpoints or you merge it in only one?

                          Doesn't check for existing CPoints.

                          Thomas Thomassen — SketchUp Monkey & Coding addict
                          List of my plugins and link to the CookieWare fund

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                            pilou
                            last edited by 12 Oct 2010, 08:20

                            @unknownuser said:

                            Where edges are split where they intersect? Or where they overlap - like they often do in SU6 and older?

                            I don't know, on the face I suppose 😳

                            In any case we have solution to move them out the face (when existing)
                            call the plug, and re put on the face 😄

                            @unknownuser said:

                            Doesn't check for existing CPoints.

                            So there are 2CPoint overlaped
                            or they are automatical merged as one by SU as having same coordinates ?
                            (same than you draw 2 lines ovelapped)

                            Frenchy Pilou
                            Is beautiful that please without concept!
                            My Little site :)

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                              thomthom
                              last edited by 12 Oct 2010, 08:29

                              @unknownuser said:

                              @unknownuser said:

                              Where edges are split where they intersect? Or where they overlap - like they often do in SU6 and older?

                              I don't know, on the face I suppose 😳

                              Something is lost in translation here - I mean should there be a CPoint only when two edges cross each other but doesn't split each other?

                              @unknownuser said:

                              So there are 2CPoint overlaped
                              or they are automatical merged as one by SU as having same coordinates ?
                              (same than you draw 2 lines ovelapped)

                              I don't know - I haven't tested it. The plugin just adds a CPoint blindly.

                              Thomas Thomassen — SketchUp Monkey & Coding addict
                              List of my plugins and link to the CookieWare fund

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                                pilou
                                last edited by 12 Oct 2010, 08:45

                                I have just tested seems there are really 2 CPoints! 😮
                                Maybe some annoyous 😉
                                click image if scrool bar!
                                doublecpoint.jpg

                                Frenchy Pilou
                                Is beautiful that please without concept!
                                My Little site :)

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                                  TIG Moderator
                                  last edited by 12 Oct 2010, 09:14

                                  I think Pilou's issue with 'duplicated Cpoints' - i.e. at the same location in 3D space - is if they are used to place Instances later it will duplicate the Instances etc.
                                  When adding the new Cpoints it'd be relatively easy to test to see if there was a Cpoint already there.
                                  First make a collection of Cpoints in the current context [entities] and make an array of the 'position' of each one: then only add the new Cpoint if it's not already there - code-example...

                                  
                                  there=false
                                  cpoint_positions.each{|p|(there=true;break)if p==new_point}
                                  entities.add_cpoint(new_point) if not there
                                  
                                  

                                  You should still add coincident Cpoints if they are in different contexts [entities-sets]...

                                  TIG

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                                    thomthom
                                    last edited by 12 Oct 2010, 09:31

                                    Slightly trimmed variant:
                                    entities.add_cpoint(new_point) unless cpoint_positions.any?{|pt|pt==new_point}

                                    Thomas Thomassen — SketchUp Monkey & Coding addict
                                    List of my plugins and link to the CookieWare fund

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                                      pilou
                                      last edited by 18 Oct 2010, 08:37

                                      In fact that must be 6 points! 😒
                                      1 Center of circle
                                      1 Intersection of lines
                                      4 Intersection Lines Circle

                                      Here I have a lot of more 😉
                                      I have made Intersection before launch the plug Edge/edge (V 6)

                                      Edit I have found a Process
                                      General Intersection
                                      Hide Circle
                                      Call the Plug Guides Tool - Edge/edge
                                      Show Circle
                                      Select Circle
                                      Call ad Cpoint to Circle
                                      I have my six points 😎
                                      Easy for not numerous circles but for many ? 😉
                                      Ok I can use Selection Toys Circles ☀ 😉

                                      intersection.jpg

                                      Frenchy Pilou
                                      Is beautiful that please without concept!
                                      My Little site :)

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                                        thomthom
                                        last edited by 18 Oct 2010, 08:51

                                        Why do you hide and show the circle?

                                        Thomas Thomassen — SketchUp Monkey & Coding addict
                                        List of my plugins and link to the CookieWare fund

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                                          pilou
                                          last edited by 18 Oct 2010, 08:58

                                          Yes see my edit text 😉
                                          In fact that must be Selection Toys "Arcs"
                                          Hide
                                          because the interections are made before 😉

                                          Process must be
                                          Ad CP Circle(s)
                                          General Intersection
                                          Selection Toys "Arcs"
                                          Hide
                                          Add CPoint Edge /Edge
                                          Show Hidden
                                          😎

                                          When Edge / Edge Cpoints are they "Doubled" between 2 segments of a same lines or not? (like my lines above after the intersection)
                                          (at the commune extremities)
                                          Seems not! 😎 (I have verified with the outliner) ☀

                                          You have just the problem of same arc centers of my previous old post 😉

                                          Frenchy Pilou
                                          Is beautiful that please without concept!
                                          My Little site :)

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