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    Dragoonprogramming
    last edited by 10 Oct 2010, 17:56

    Hello everyone!

    I have finaly decided that I should bite the bullet and buy the full version of a renderer...
    I want some advice on which one to get... Post your favorite renderer!
    I am currently using the Render [in] engine for sketchup
    I want your opinion of each renderer
    I also want to know what the pro's and con's of each render engine.
    This would realy help!

    Thanks,
    Taylor

    "...And if he says that one more time i'll punch him right in the throat" - Armstrong and Getty
    My website http://dragoonprogramming.weebly.com/

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      solo
      last edited by 10 Oct 2010, 18:10

      https://assets.clubsonline.com.au/assets/console/gallery/images/try%20before%20you%20buy.jpg

      http://www.solos-art.com

      If you see a toilet in your dreams do not use it.

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        Rich O Brien Moderator
        last edited by 10 Oct 2010, 18:12

        Ditto

        Download the free D'oh Book for SketchUp ๐Ÿ“–

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          Dragoonprogramming
          last edited by 10 Oct 2010, 18:50

          wow okay....

          yeah kinda figured that...

          "...And if he says that one more time i'll punch him right in the throat" - Armstrong and Getty
          My website http://dragoonprogramming.weebly.com/

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            solo
            last edited by 10 Oct 2010, 18:54

            Taylor,

            Firstly why do you want to render?
            What do you want to render?
            Is it for profit or hobby?
            What is your current experiance with rendering?

            http://www.solos-art.com

            If you see a toilet in your dreams do not use it.

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              Dragoonprogramming
              last edited by 11 Oct 2010, 03:39

              1.mostly um... just to get a better visual of my models (things from pr to npr)
              2.everything from houses to furniture to devices (a mix of models)
              3.A mix of both
              4.currently I have used podium and render [in]
              Also my budget is alittle over $100

              "...And if he says that one more time i'll punch him right in the throat" - Armstrong and Getty
              My website http://dragoonprogramming.weebly.com/

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                puck
                last edited by 11 Oct 2010, 09:21

                Sounds like twilight would be a good option. It's a really high quality final product, painless to set up and pretty quick. Loads of materials available to download and applying them is simple.

                The trial will give you a good idea of the quality you can expect but I don't think anyone here would say it's bad at all.

                Puck

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                  kate-art
                  last edited by 11 Oct 2010, 13:04

                  Why not try Shaderlight? There's a free 14 day trial of the Pro version but you can continue to use it with restricted lighting and resolution for as long as you like! If you're new to rendering, Shaderlight is ideal as it renders interactively. I won't bore you with a list of features here - just take a look at the video demo! http://artvps.com/content/shaderlight/sketchup/what-is-shaderlight

                  Shaderlight delivers interactive, photorealistic rendering to Google SketchUp. Download it for FREE at http://www.shaderlight.com

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                    Dragoonprogramming
                    last edited by 11 Oct 2010, 15:30

                    hmmm.
                    twighlight refuses to open on my computer so probably not that....
                    ill try shaderlight though...
                    anyone else?

                    "...And if he says that one more time i'll punch him right in the throat" - Armstrong and Getty
                    My website http://dragoonprogramming.weebly.com/

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                      Vicspa
                      last edited by 11 Oct 2010, 15:34

                      Try kerkythea, (free), Right now I'm looking toward Thea render.
                      But try them all first.

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                        gascat
                        last edited by 12 Oct 2010, 03:30

                        I use Podium at work and and I purchased Twilight to use at at home.

                        I'm finding Podium gives great results with interiors but Twilight with exteriors.

                        Just my thought.

                        cheers...Wayne

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                          Mary_1.0
                          last edited by 13 Oct 2010, 06:15

                          Twilight's great, especially if you want to do animations and videos. For example, I used a model of the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame building that's in the SketchUp Warehouse, rendered it with Twilight, and made this video. Enjoy!

                          [flash=480,385:1ypofy0k]http://www.youtube.com/v/3I345cW-7zM[/flash:1ypofy0k]

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                            jason_maranto
                            last edited by 13 Oct 2010, 15:10

                            This is well outside your budget but I thought I'd throw it out there anyway becasue they are running a promo right now: Maxwell Render http://www.maxwellrender.com/

                            Pro's:

                            1. Incredible Quality.
                            2. Outstanding Sketchup plugin that is getting better all the time.
                            3. Stand-alone "studio" application for working with assets from multiple softwares and high poly assets that Sketchup can't handle.
                            4. Free plugins for many 3D apps so you can take it with you from program to program.

                            Con's:

                            1. Price
                            2. Requires Sketchup Pro

                            Here's a link to some tutorial videos to give you an idea of how it works:

                            http://think.maxwellrender.com/first10steps.php?categoryFS=15

                            Best,
                            Jason.

                            I create video tutorial series about several 2D & 3D graphics programs.

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                              remus
                              last edited by 13 Oct 2010, 15:28

                              @jason_maranto said:

                              1. Requires Sketchup Pro

                              Didnt realise that, any ideas why thats the case?

                              Sorry for the off topic post Dragoon ๐Ÿ˜„

                              http://remusrendering.wordpress.com/

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                                jason_maranto
                                last edited by 13 Oct 2010, 15:51

                                My understanding is the Maxwell exporter makes use of the C++ API in Sketchup Pro for mega fast exports to render... Ruby exports can take 10 times longer (or more) for the same scene. Since Maxwell is definitely a "high-end" renderer it seems reasonable to think that the user-base is mostly professionals where time wasted waiting for exports to render would be too costly to tolerate.

                                Best,
                                Jason.

                                I create video tutorial series about several 2D & 3D graphics programs.

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                                  remus
                                  last edited by 13 Oct 2010, 16:14

                                  Im pretty sure thats not a pro only feature, can only be a good thing though.

                                  http://remusrendering.wordpress.com/

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                                    jason_maranto
                                    last edited by 13 Oct 2010, 16:32

                                    According to what little info I can find on the subject the C++ SDK is a Pro version only feature.

                                    Best,
                                    Jason.

                                    I create video tutorial series about several 2D & 3D graphics programs.

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                                      notareal
                                      last edited by 13 Oct 2010, 16:42

                                      @dragoonprogramming said:

                                      hmmm.
                                      twighlight refuses to open on my computer so probably not that....
                                      ill try shaderlight though...
                                      anyone else?

                                      I don't recall that twilight itself have particular issues, maybe some other ruby is interfering. If you are on low budget, take a look on Kerkythea (Twilight uses same engine) or maybe luxrender, both are free. Thea Render might also fit in your budget (promotional pricing during beta phase) - it a step upwards with a full studio and interactive rendering.

                                      Welcome to try [Thea Render](http://www.thearender.com/), Thea support | [kerkythea.net](http://www.kerkythea.net/) -team member

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                                        jason_maranto
                                        last edited by 13 Oct 2010, 16:53

                                        No doubt -- Thea would be my first choice if I wasn't using/couldn't afford Maxwell.

                                        Best,
                                        Jason.

                                        I create video tutorial series about several 2D & 3D graphics programs.

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                                          remus
                                          last edited by 13 Oct 2010, 17:34

                                          Doesnt mention anything about being pro-specific here: http://code.google.com/apis/sketchup/docs/downloadsdksubmit.html

                                          http://remusrendering.wordpress.com/

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