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    • TIGT Offline
      TIG Moderator
      last edited by

      Unzip this in your Plugins folder...win32ole.zip

      TIG

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        stefx
        last edited by

        fast answer.
        good answer.
        useful answer.

        thank you very much TIG.

        stef.

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        • marvins_dadM Offline
          marvins_dad
          last edited by

          I was looking to try this out to combine 3 large files.

          but...
          http://www.sketchucation.com/forums/scf/viewtopic.php?f=57&t=7330

          Seems that the Tutorial has vaporized.

          Any ideas if there are any other locations that can give me an idea how to get around with this ruby?

          Thanks

          My Gallery

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          • TIGT Offline
            TIG Moderator
            last edited by

            XrefManagerHelpNotes.pdf

            TIG

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            • marvins_dadM Offline
              marvins_dad
              last edited by

              Thanks! πŸ‘ πŸ˜„

              My Gallery

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              • P Offline
                pulsezip
                last edited by

                Does this plugin work for sketchup 7 or 7.1 ?

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                • TIGT Offline
                  TIG Moderator
                  last edited by

                  I should work for v7/7.1/8 BUT it really does need a major overhaul... BUT there's a loooong list 😞

                  TIG

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                    prospero spring
                    last edited by

                    Hi TIG,
                    I just upgraded my SketchUp to V8 Pro but the V5.1 is not working anymore. I can get an advice to fix it?
                    Thanks,

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                    • TIGT Offline
                      TIG Moderator
                      last edited by

                      @prospero spring said:

                      Hi TIG,
                      I just upgraded my SketchUp to V8 Pro but the V5.1 is not working anymore. I can get an advice to fix it?
                      Thanks,

                      Please try running it with the Ruby Console open and post any error messages...

                      TIG

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                        prospero spring
                        last edited by

                        Hi TIG,
                        This was how the errors showed up when the loading of Xref Manager V5.1 was failed.
                        "can't convert nil into StringError Loading File XrefManager.rb"
                        Thanks for helps.
                        PS

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                        • TIGT Offline
                          TIG Moderator
                          last edited by

                          @prospero spring said:

                          Hi TIG,
                          This was how the errors showed up when the loading of Xref Manager V5.1 was failed.
                          "can't convert nil into StringError Loading File XrefManager.rb"
                          Thanks for helps.
                          PS

                          Sorry but I need the whole error message as it will have a line number in it... πŸ˜•

                          TIG

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                            prospero spring
                            last edited by

                            Hi TIG,
                            The following is the whole error message:
                            "Error Loading File pushpull_tool.rb
                            can't convert nil into StringError Loading File push_pull_vector.rb
                            can't convert nil into StringError Loading File push_pull_z.rb
                            can't convert nil into StringError Loading File quick_selection.rb
                            can't convert nil into StringError Loading File script_loader.rb
                            can't convert nil into StringError Loading File selection.rb
                            can't convert nil into StringError Loading File thicklines.rb
                            can't convert nil into StringError Loading File utilities.rb
                            can't convert nil into StringError Loading File weld.rb
                            can't convert nil into StringError Loading File XrefManager.rb[/color]
                            can't convert nil into StringError Loading File ZLoader__FredoScale.rb
                            can't convert nil into StringError Loading File ZLoader__OnSurface.rb
                            can't convert nil into StringError Loading File dynamiccomponents.rb
                            can't convert nil into StringError Loading File langhandler.rb
                            can't convert nil into StringError Loading File make_pano_pm.rb
                            can't convert nil into StringError Loading File sandboxtools.rb
                            can't convert nil into StringError Loading File SolarNorth.rb
                            can't convert nil into StringError Loading File webtextures.rb
                            can't convert nil into String"

                            I couldn't make the Ruby Console open before the error message showed up. If this is not what you were looking for, please guide me to get there.
                            Many thanks,
                            PS

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                            • TIGT Offline
                              TIG Moderator
                              last edited by

                              So it's not an XrefManager.rb problem directly, as it is a general '...nil into String Error...' occurring on many other scripts loading too.

                              I suspect that perhaps you are missing some files - e.g. sketchup.rb or perhaps langhandler.rb in the ../Tools/ folder [these should NOT be in ../Plugins/].

                              How did you 'transfer' scripts etc between the SUp versions?

                              Does this only occur on new SKPs opening?

                              Does your file_name or file_path contain unicode characters [e.g. accents] that might trip up Ruby [teh version did change with SUp v8, but unicode support in its File.exist?() etc is still rubbish]...
                              πŸ˜•

                              TIG

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                                rv1974
                                last edited by

                                My humble wish list:
                                1.'Make into xref' would automatically create skp file in the same directory with original component's
                                name.
                                2. In-place xref editing (with saving to external file in ACAD-like manner)
                                3. Floating pallet.
                                4. Those annoying 'exiting...' messages.. Why do the kick user out of script?

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                                  cobb89
                                  last edited by

                                  will using xrefs for my model actually make it lighter...for example if I have

                                  a 14 MB model

                                  a 12 mb model of a building block

                                  If I copy paste the latter one in 14 mb one..the filesize may become...26MB
                                  will using an xref of the 12 mb one into 14 mb make the file size 18 mb or so??

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                                  • TIGT Offline
                                    TIG Moderator
                                    last edited by

                                    Xrefs in SKPs are NOT like Xrefs in DWGs.
                                    They are full inserted copies that simply know what the external SKP it came from is and if it's been updated suggested you reload it... Therefore adding SKPs into a SKP [Xref'd or not] will increase the file size.
                                    It not possible to do it in the DWG manner where the Xref is a true 'eXternal-REFerence' and the host DWG is barely affected by having it inserted...

                                    TIG

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                                      cobb89
                                      last edited by

                                      @tig said:

                                      Xrefs in SKPs are NOT like Xrefs in DWGs.
                                      They are full inserted copies that simply know what the external SKP it came from is and if it's been updated suggested you reload it... Therefore adding SKPs into a SKP [Xref'd or not] will increase the file size.
                                      It not possible to do it in the DWG manner where the Xref is a true 'eXternal-REFerence' and the host DWG is barely affected by having it inserted...

                                      so...what's the best way to keep my model lighter, apart from working in groups and layers?? ❓

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                                      • TIGT Offline
                                        TIG Moderator
                                        last edited by

                                        Using Groups and Layers won't make your SKP any 'smaller' BUT they will help you model more fluidly and also allow you to 'switch things off' thereby making it easier to navigate around your model as the 'clutter' is reduced.
                                        Using Components for repeated elements will reduce the SKP's file size, because once the definition is made each instance of it you place in the SKP adds a small amount to the SKP's size.
                                        Adding large textures to materials or large Images will inevitably increase the SKP's size and slow down navigation.
                                        Adding lots of polygons [edges with faces] will also inflate the SKP - Modeling a detailed tree with every twig and leaf will probably double the SKP's size in one step! Also never model parts you won't see [like the insides of objects] because they all add the the SKP's size AND need 'calculating' as you orbit etc...
                                        Model with Fancy Edge Styles, Fog, Shadows and Textures etc all switched 'OFF' - then use suitable preset Scene tabs to flip between the different modes as needed - you only need all of the bells-and-whistles 'ON' on when you are done and rendering [or adjusting texture UV mapping etc].
                                        Your SKP will be slowed to a crawl if you have lots of polygons casting shadows on each other and with textures 'on' etc - Sketchup has to work so much harder to decide how to display shadows etc...

                                        TIG

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                                        • GaieusG Offline
                                          Gaieus
                                          last edited by

                                          There are plugins however that can help you have your rather complex model more navigable. Have a look at Ghost Components for instance:
                                          http://forums.sketchucation.com/viewtopic.php?t=21469

                                          (Now the best would of course be if you could keep these components as ghosts all the time and they would still display their "real" complexity when making image or animation export or even for render engines...)

                                          Gai...

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                                            cobb89
                                            last edited by

                                            isn't there a better way than ghost comp? because i'm working on a housing projects and it has lot of housing units. [varying from 16 to 20 storeys high]..the site is huge, and I want to work on the site model. I was going to the site model with the xrefs of each type of units [located as separate files for each of the towers.]. I can't seem to find a good way πŸ˜’

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