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    [Plugin] Hole Punching Tool

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    • TIGT Offline
      TIG Moderator
      last edited by

      As Adam said - it only appears in the right-click context-menu under the 'Hole Punching...' submenu - the options will vary depending on the current selection.

      Please read the guidance-notes before diving into the shallow water!

      ๐Ÿ˜’

      *Comme Adam a dit - Il n'apparaรฎt que dans la droite-cliquez/menu-contextuel sous le sous-menu 'Hole Punching...' -

      SVP lire les directives-notes avant de plonger dans les eaux peu profondes!*
      ๐Ÿ˜‰

      TIG

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      • B Offline
        Bertier
        last edited by

        sorry guys, too much to do too little time

        thanx again

        merci !

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        • pilouP Offline
          pilou
          last edited by

          Seems a simple face as component don't work ๐Ÿ˜ฎ

          Works with the basic "Component Puncher"! ๐Ÿ˜Ž
          (so only with no depth choice) ! ๐Ÿ˜•

          Frenchy Pilou
          Is beautiful that please without concept!
          My Little site :)

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          • TIGT Offline
            TIG Moderator
            last edited by

            @unknownuser said:

            Seems a simple face as component don't work ๐Ÿ˜ฎ

            Works with the basic "Component Puncher"! ๐Ÿ˜Ž
            (so only with no depth choice) ! ๐Ÿ˜•

            Can you post an example SKP with this problem ? ๐Ÿ˜’

            TIG

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            • pilouP Offline
              pilou
              last edited by

              sure ๐Ÿ˜„
              When you take a component disc (Gluing, cutting) from the menu /component and past it on a face of the box
              That don't works! ๐Ÿ˜ฎ
              (it's just a surface not a volume) but that's works with the old first Component Punch ๐Ÿ˜‰
              So there is something wrong in this last sophisticated version ๐Ÿ˜„
              disc.jpg


              disc.skp

              Frenchy Pilou
              Is beautiful that please without concept!
              My Little site :)

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              • TIGT Offline
                TIG Moderator
                last edited by

                Pilou ! You nitwit!
                The Component might glue BUT you hadn't given it a cutting behavior OR made its center open or transparent so when it did punch the hole you couldn't see it as it entirely covered the 'hole' - try it in Xray mode....Capture.PNG

                TIG

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                • pilouP Offline
                  pilou
                  last edited by

                  @unknownuser said:

                  OR made its center open or transparent

                  Ahhhhhh! That is very cool! ๐Ÿ‘
                  So any complex curves even not welded (without any face inside) can make a Punch!!! ๐Ÿ˜ฒ
                  No need to take a surface! โ˜€
                  That's rocks! ๐Ÿ˜Ž So your plug works like a charm ! ๐Ÿ˜Ž

                  And I have have something for the Duhduh thread ๐Ÿ˜„
                  When you have made a component with Glue, you must take it from the Menu Window/ Components! And not first from the screen! ๐Ÿ˜ณ


                  curves.jpg

                  Frenchy Pilou
                  Is beautiful that please without concept!
                  My Little site :)

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                  • U Offline
                    urs0815
                    last edited by

                    Very cool plugin ๐Ÿ‘ ๐Ÿ‘ ๐Ÿ‘

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                    • K Offline
                      kwalkerman
                      last edited by

                      Awesome Plugin!!! I thought about doing something with a similar approach, but you beat me to it!

                      Two comments:

                      1. The plugin works session to session (which is awesome) IF you open your file by double clicking on it and opening it directly. It doesn't seem to work if you open SU first, then do "file, open." Minor issue.

                      2. After punching, if you select any of the reveal faces, all of the other reveal faces are selected, but the window component remains unselected. Again, minor, but worthy of a fix.

                      3. If you create a new file by selecting "file, new", the windows are punched, but the hole doesn't move when the window is moved (same issue as #1, I think)

                      Anyway, overall AWESOME plugin. Definitely saves much time & effort.

                      --
                      Karen

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                      • TIGT Offline
                        TIG Moderator
                        last edited by

                        @kwalkerman said:

                        Awesome Plugin!!! I thought about doing something with a similar approach, but you beat me to it!

                        Two comments:

                        1. The plugin works session to session (which is awesome) IF you open your file by double clicking on it and opening it directly. It doesn't seem to work if you open SU first, then do "file, open." Minor issue.

                        2. After punching, if you select any of the reveal faces, all of the other reveal faces are selected, but the window component remains unselected. Again, minor, but worthy of a fix.

                        3. If you create a new file by selecting "file, new", the windows are punched, but the hole doesn't move when the window is moved (same issue as #1, I think)

                        Anyway, overall AWESOME plugin. Definitely saves much time & effort.

                        Karen

                        1. This is because the way the observers run / work - it is fixable - thanks for bringing it up.
                        2. This one IS deliberate - if you want to adjust the reveals without affecting the punching-component - e.g. make the reveals splayed by adding a temp face and scaling it.
                        3. This issue IS similar to 1., and again it's because of the way the observers run / work - and again it's fixable... ๐Ÿค“

                        TIG

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                        • TIGT Offline
                          TIG Moderator
                          last edited by

                          Here's v1.3 http://forums.sketchucation.com/viewtopic.php?p=271170#p271170
                          A new AppObserver has been added to keep the 'hole_punch' observers firing when a model is 'from menu' as 'open' or 'new'.

                          TIG

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                          • GaieusG Offline
                            Gaieus
                            last edited by

                            TIG, this is an awesome plugin!

                            I've had my quite easy routines to do this but of course, such a useful addition is always welcome (and of course, the transition part of it - when you move all the necessary parts together - is the greatest part of it)!

                            Thank you very-very much! ๐Ÿ‘ ๐Ÿ‘ ๐Ÿ‘

                            Gai...

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                            • K Offline
                              kwalkerman
                              last edited by

                              TIG,

                              #2 makes sense. Thanks for updating the plugin with an app observer. Definitely an awesome tool.

                              --
                              Karen

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                              • GaieusG Offline
                                Gaieus
                                last edited by

                                TIG,

                                I have some minor issues (although of course it can easily be fixed and I guess fixing the plugin itself would need some completely different approach you are using now...)

                                See the attached screenshot of the same window from the front and from the back. The front has a "frame" which will obviously make the cutting face larger than the inside, "tunnel" part.

                                If the plugin's method (which I guess) is to duplicate the front cutting shape on the back, there is a hole around my tunnel (I can fix this manually by offsetting the outer edges out and filling that gap while hiding the surrounding edges).

                                Can the plugin be somewhat effortlessly modified so that it tries to detect such a hole and heals it somehow? See example model attached, too.

                                Another question; when copying the window along a face, SU seems to handle all the components together (like a single entity). So if I Move-Copy an instance and then want to go on doing with other instances, all the existing ones move along. Why is that?


                                Punch hole.png


                                Punch hole.skp

                                Gai...

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                                • TIGT Offline
                                  TIG Moderator
                                  last edited by

                                  Gai

                                  The simple answer is 'No' !
                                  It detects the intersection of the component and the face it's glued onto - i.e. it uses the component's cutting-hole as the punched holes edges.
                                  If the component itself has some internal faces to it then there will be no 'gaps'.
                                  If the component is effectively an outer 'frame' placed onto the wall with an inner hole then you need to set the 'frame' forward by 1mm and the hole-cutting parts at z=0, so that the whole frame no longer lies on the wall and so it does not cut it...
                                  Here's an example...Capture.PNG So the solution is in the design of your hole-cutting-components not the hole-punching tool itself ๐Ÿค“

                                  TIG

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                                  • GaieusG Offline
                                    Gaieus
                                    last edited by

                                    Okay TIG, thanks. Yes, I know the solution - was just wondering if there was an easy way to modify the plugin. If not then I will have to modify my workflow of course - no problem with that at all.
                                    ๐Ÿ˜‰

                                    And the other question?

                                    @gaieus said:

                                    Another question; when copying the window along a face, SU seems to handle all the components together (like a single entity). So if I Move-Copy an instance and then want to go on doing with other instances, all the existing ones move along. Why is that?

                                    Gai...

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                                    • TIGT Offline
                                      TIG Moderator
                                      last edited by

                                      It's in the guidance notes...
                                      If you copy a pre-punched hole [and it's reveals] the links get twisted because the original component is linked to all of the reveal copies and the instance can't then cut the face.
                                      If you want to copy a pre-punched component you must 'un-punch' it first [i.e. delete the internal hole/reveals], then copy the component instance, and then select it and its copies, and then punch the holes again... ๐Ÿค“

                                      TIG

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                                      • GaieusG Offline
                                        Gaieus
                                        last edited by

                                        Okay,. thanks (and I know - RTFM) Sorry. I will do so.
                                        ๐Ÿ‘

                                        Gai...

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                                        • K Offline
                                          kwalkerman
                                          last edited by

                                          TIG,

                                          one option for Gaieus' suggestion is to add a Tools Observer, if a punching component is in the selection, the move tool is active, and the tool goes to 'copy' mode, then un-select the linked components and copy only the hole punching component... or would this mess with some other functionality with the tool??? It would be handy though.

                                          Again, awesome plugin. I've been waiting for something like this for a looooong time.

                                          Thanks again,

                                          --
                                          Karen

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                                          • P Offline
                                            Phil Rader AIA
                                            last edited by

                                            FLABERGASTED...This is Awesome...What a time saver this will be.

                                            http://www.philrader.com

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