Edit group by ruby-code instead of a right mouse click

TIG

To 'edit' a group use group.entities
You add-to or erase-from the set, or transform some of its entities etc - just as you would any other entities set... i.e. like model.entities etc... and the changes occur inside the group

You could simulate the 'edit group' command - set a shortcut e.g. ' Shift+Ctrl+Alt+G' to the 'edit group' menu item and then use ' win32ole.so' to run the key-stroke(s) to make that group active and then edit its entities to make your selection and then close the group using close_active... BUT it's pretty convoluted and would be PC dependent AND why do it?

Andreas

I would like to make a cutout in a wall (group) to insert a door or window.

Andreas

MartinRinehart

@andreas said:

I would like to make a cutout in a wall (group) to insert a door or window.

Andreas

That is definitely possible. The group has an Entities collection.

Add a Rectangle to the groups Entities. Pushpull its face to the opposite side of the wall. Delete the face.

Jim

You work directly with the Group's entities, just like you would the model's entities. Having an editing context is a useful concept for people when modeling, but is not necessary when editing geometry using the Ruby API.

This sample shows how you might get to a Group's entities.


all_groups = Sketchup.active_model.entities.find_all{|e| e.class == Sketchup;;Group}
my_group = all_groups.select{|g| g.name == "My Group"}
my_entities = group.entities
my_entities.add_face(...)

TIG

When you add geometry it goes into an entities collection.
You have:-
model.entities = everything that's placed in the model
group.entities = everything that's placed in the group
definition.entities = everything that's placed in the component's definition
there is also
model.active_entities = everything that is placed in the current context - so this could be equal to the model.entities, OR if the user starts your tool whilst he is editing a group it would become the group.entities automatically.
Example - this code snippet adds a new [empty] group into the model, then it adds a line 1" tall into that group, it then adds a second [empty] group inside the first group and adds a line 10" long at the first line's end but in that new group.

model=Sketchup.active_model
group1=model.entities.add_group()
group1.entities.add_line([0,0,0],[0,0,1])
group2=group1.entities.add_group()
group2.entities.add_line([0,0,1],[10,0,1])

Run it [copy/paste the into a file in Plugins and use load"file.txt" in the Ruby Console] and see the results...
Hopefully this is helpful...

Andreas

@jim said:

You work directly with the Group's entities, just like you would the model's entities. Having an editing context is a useful concept for people when modeling, but is not necessary when editing geometry using the Ruby API.

This sample shows how you might get to a Group's entities.


> all_groups = Sketchup.active_model.entities.find_all{|e| e.class == Sketchup;;Group}
> my_group = all_groups.select{|g| g.name == "My Group"}
> my_entities = group.entities
> my_entities.add_face(...)
>

my_entities = group.entities don´t works.
I think it must be:
my_entities = my_group.entities
but that don´t works too.

Can someone help me?

Thanks
Andreas

TIG

You first get a reference to the required group, then one to its entities, and then do stuff in that entities collection...
To see if each step is working add puts my_group etc after it's defined it should then print up the group-id in the ruby console or 'nil'!
It should be my_group in your code if you want to work inside that group.
Do you have a group with that specific name ?
Obviously the .add_face(...) needs expanding so the ... is a list of at least three coplanar points!!
It WILL work...
Why not test it using my method that adds a new group to model.active_entities with
my_group=model.active_entities.add_group()
NOW you are sure to have my_group... now add the face to my_group.entities

Andreas

@tig said:

You first get a reference to the required group, then one to its entities, and then do stuff in that entities collection...
To see if each step is working add puts my_group etc after it's defined it should then print up the group-id in the ruby console or 'nil'!
It should be my_group in your code if you want to work inside that group.
Do you have a group with that specific name ?
Obviously the .add_face(...) needs expanding so the ... is a list of at least three coplanar points!!
It WILL work...
Why not test it using my method that adds a new group to model.active_entities with
my_group=model.active_entities.add_group()
NOW you are sure to have my_group... now add the face to my_group.entities

Hello TIG,

I need access to an existing group to add a face. I would like to make a cutout in a wall (existing group) to insert a door or window.

Andreas

TIG

I only suggested the making a new group method so that you might understand how it works in a test...
Did you try my 'puts' methods to report if you are actually getting the 'group' etc using your methods ?
Assuming you corrected the group >> my_group it should work IF the names match...

Andreas

@tig said:

...Assuming you corrected the group >> my_group it should work IF the names match...

It does not work.

all_groups = Sketchup.active_model.entities.find_all{|e| e.class == Sketchup;;Group}
my_group = all_groups.select{|g| g.name == "G1"}
my_entities = my_group.entities

The result is:

all_groups = Sketchup.active_model.entities.find_all{|e| e.class == Sketchup::Group}
finds several groups
=> [#Sketchup::Group:0x80db350, #Sketchup::Group:0x80db320, #Sketchup::Group:0x80db2f0, #Sketchup::Group:0x80e6768]

my_group = all_groups.select{|g| g.name == "G1"}
picks one of the groups
=> [#Sketchup::Group:0x80e6768]

my_entities = my_group.entities
gives the following error
NoMethodError: (eval):1:in get_binding': undefined method entities' for [#Sketchup::Group:0x80e6768:Array]

I don`t understand that!!!

Is there anybody who can explain it to me?

thomthom

all_groups.select{|g| g.name == "G1"} returns an array with a group - not just the group itself.

Since this line is suppose to filter out a single group we assume there will be only one item in the array and therefore extract the first item in the array.

my_group = all_groups.select{|g| g.name == "G1"}.first

So the whole lot would be:


all_groups = Sketchup.active_model.entities.find_all{|e| e.class == Sketchup;;Group}
my_group = all_groups.select{|g| g.name == "G1"}.first
my_entities = my_group.entities

Andreas

@thomthom said:

my_group = all_groups.select{|g| g.name == "G1"}.first

Thanks - that´s exactly what I need!!!

kaas

@tig said:

You could simulate the 'edit group' command - set a shortcut e.g. ' Shift+Ctrl+Alt+G' to the 'edit group' menu item and then use ' win32ole.so' to run the key-stroke(s) to make that group active..

I'd like to dig up this old thread because I'm looking for a way (a tool started by a keypress) to drill down many nested groups up to the group with the face I picked, and have that group opened to start pushpulling / modifying etc.

Normally I use the outliner to get to the right group but sometimes it's not clear and I have to double click a few times on the target face to drill down the hierarchy. I'd like to skip that double clicking by firing a tool and just pick the face.

I tried making this into a small tool. With the pickhelper I can select the picked face but the group itself isn't opened.

I also tried TIG's suggestion above in a tool but I can't find the 'edit group' command in the shortcuts so can't bind it to a keypress.

Any suggestions??

edit: turns out the shortcut list is generated dynamically. If I select a group and then open the shortcut preferences, I do get the option to assign a key.

TIG

To set up a shortcut that is context-sensitive you must be in that selection-context.
So to shortcut 'Edit Group' you first need to select a group to get that possibility in the context-menu and you must then open SketchUp's Preferences > Shortcuts and filter for 'Group'... - then set up the shortcut on that tool's command... then of course you'll need to mimic some key-presses etc in some third party code executed by Ruby - all as outlined earlier [PC only]...

PS: This 'context' issue when making shortcuts applies to many selection-sensitive commands - like Reverse and Orient, which both need a face to be selected before they appear in the context-menu list...