[Plugin][$] Vertex Tools

shura · 20 Jul 2010, 23:32

Woohoo! Thomas, this is a fantastic modelling tool! I feel so lucky watching this wonderful software growing in your hands. Gizmo control? how cool is THAT?
btw, nice to hear your voice again
best
alex

xrok1 · 21 Jul 2010, 00:38

Thom, what address do you send your email from? maybe the domain name is in my blocked sender list for some reason. i still havn't recieved.

honoluludesktop · 21 Jul 2010, 00:52

Thom, How difficult would it be to use portions of your algorithm to redraw a selected mesh with 50% less faces? We could use a simple plugin to do this. I have a pair of shoes I like to include in my scenes to be rendered that have more faces then the model itself. If I could select the mesh that I needed reduced, even if the change is by every other vertex, I could reduce the mesh to something manageable.

xrok1 · 21 Jul 2010, 01:14

are you talking about a cage or proxy mesh? or opposite of subdivision?

honoluludesktop · 21 Jul 2010, 01:57

What is a cage or a proxy mesh?

xrok1 · 21 Jul 2010, 02:23

like in SDS where you edit a high poly mesh with a low poly mesh (cage) around it.

here is an example: you manipulate the outer mesh to effect the inner one.

xrok1 · 21 Jul 2010, 04:42

this is better than i could have dreamed! it works with SDS!!!!!!!!!!!!

SDS WITH SOFT SELECTION!

Arc · 21 Jul 2010, 06:08

I made a little video tut, but I don'n know how to instert ping video in post?
http://www.screencast.com/t/OTlkZWRjMT

[flash=800,600:29tenr79]http://content.screencast.com/users/xwtao/folders/Jing/media/9c408fd9-078e-401b-bb07-fe845dfd7e86/2010-07-21_vertextools.swf&blurover=false[/flash:29tenr79]

honoluludesktop · 21 Jul 2010, 07:54

Not sure I get it, but it seems like what I suggested is a simple reversal of subdivide. May be not so simple?

thomthom · 21 Jul 2010, 08:57

@shura said:

Woohoo! Thomas, this is a fantastic modelling tool! I feel so lucky watching this wonderful software growing in your hands. Gizmo control? how cool is THAT?
btw, nice to hear your voice again
best
alex

Hi Alex! Thank you very much!
Hope you are doing well. Give me a shout if you should find yourself in Trondheim again!

thomthom · 21 Jul 2010, 09:01

@honoluludesktop said:

Thom, How difficult would it be to use portions of your algorithm to redraw a selected mesh with 50% less faces? We could use a simple plugin to do this. I have a pair of shoes I like to include in my scenes to be rendered that have more faces then the model itself. If I could select the mesh that I needed reduced, even if the change is by every other vertex, I could reduce the mesh to something manageable.

It would be difficult, yes. I have only implemented a polyline simplifier in one of my plugins - but that was just porting an algorithm I found. I have no idea on how to simplify a whole mesh.

But didn't Fredo or Whaat do something like this in one of their plugins?

thomthom · 21 Jul 2010, 09:08

@arc said:

I made a little video tut, but I don'n know how to instert ping video in post?
http://www.screencast.com/t/OTlkZWRjMT

Thanks Arc! Really fun to see it used by others!

(I embedded the video for you. Had to dig into the HTML source of that link you gave to find the .swf reference. Jing is awkward like that.)

pilou · 21 Jul 2010, 09:12

@unknownuser said:

I have no idea on how to simplify a whole mesh.

Plugin Polyreducer by Whaat

honoluludesktop · 21 Jul 2010, 09:27

@thomthom said:

@honoluludesktop said:

Thom, How difficult would it be to use portions of your algorithm to redraw a selected mesh with 50% less faces? We could use a simple plugin to do this. I have a pair of shoes I like to include in my scenes to be rendered that have more faces then the model itself. If I could select the mesh that I needed reduced, even if the change is by every other vertex, I could reduce the mesh to something manageable.

It would be difficult, yes. I have only implemented a polyline simplifier in one of my plugins - but that was just porting an algorithm I found. I have no idea on how to simplify a whole mesh.

But didn't Fredo or Whaat do something like this in one of their plugins?

Can someone point me to a link? The ones I tried hung or didn't do mesh, don't recall the names.

pilou · 21 Jul 2010, 13:29

The plug Polyreducer by Whaat above your post don't make the trick?

honoluludesktop · 21 Jul 2010, 13:43

Maybe I am doing something wrong, here is the model.

Shoes01 high heels.skp

Pixero · 21 Jul 2010, 17:02

Looks great Thomas. Will get it ASAP.

By the way, now that your done with the vertex tool could you start thinking about a UV tool with planar and cubic mapping?

thomthom · 21 Jul 2010, 17:23

@pixero said:

By the way, now that your done with the vertex tool could you start thinking about a UV tool with planar and cubic mapping?

Yes - UV experimenting is on the schedule. I had some success with a quick mockup for planar mapping - basically projecting. Need to experiment with how cubic will be done and what kind of UI is needed.
Also looking into a way to lock UV mapping co-ordinates - something that would be useful as a standalone plugin and as a feature of others, such as Vertex Tools.

Gaieus · 21 Jul 2010, 17:58

@thomthom said:

Also looking into a way to lock UV mapping co-ordinates - something that would be useful as a standalone plugin and as a feature of others, such as Vertex Tools.

Yup, and Fredo scale (bending), Shape bender and all. I want to be able to create arches without any hassle.

pilou · 21 Jul 2010, 20:52

@Honolulu
Whith your shoe that curious, after Polyreduce, number of entities is increasing!
I works with only one shoes, save at the end of a process of poly reduce 50%
Relaunch, poly reduce 50% etc... 6 times!
At the end I have more entities than the beginning!

Shoes01medium6.zip