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  • K Offline
    keithver
    last edited by 10 May 2010, 14:48

    Hi Tig

    I can't even get the ZIP file, let alone un-zip it
    Keith

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      Chris Fullmer
      last edited by 10 May 2010, 16:31

      Thanks Jeff! And Keith, I think TIG was replying to someone else who is having difficulties with where they put their files.

      Good luck to everyone, and a big thanks to everyone who keeps chiming in to help!

      Chris

      Lately you've been tan, suspicious for the winter.
      All my Plugins I've written

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        keithver
        last edited by 10 May 2010, 18:10

        Thanks everyone, especially Jeff for that link. I'M NOW A SHAPE BENDER!

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          jeff hammond
          last edited by 10 May 2010, 18:36

          keith.

          download here:
          [link removed]

          reply here when you get it so i can remove it from my iDisk.

          dotdotdot

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            bouzzer
            last edited by 11 May 2010, 08:35

            Hi how do I instal the plug in?

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              bouzzer
              last edited by 11 May 2010, 08:56

              Hi for some reason I cant select the line of the Red axis, can someone help me please?

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              • T Offline
                TIG Moderator
                last edited by 11 May 2010, 11:37

                @bouzzer said:

                Hi how do I instal the plug in?

                As with almost all plugins...
                Unzip the folder extracting everything as it is in the zip.
                There should be a single .rb file and a folder with some other files inside it.
                Move the single .rb and the foldert into your SUp..Plugins folder and restart SUp.
                Activate the toolbar from Views or access it from the Plugins Menu [CLF sub-menu]...

                TIG

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                  Chris Fullmer
                  last edited by 11 May 2010, 15:17

                  If you feel the plugin is installed correctly, and still can not select the red line, you might need to reset the model axis. The script only recognizes the original red axis. So try activating the select tool, then right click on the red axis and choose "Reset Axis". Then realign your items to be bent to that axis. If the option to reset axis is greyed out, then that means the axis already is correct, and the problem is something else. Good luck,

                  Chris

                  Lately you've been tan, suspicious for the winter.
                  All my Plugins I've written

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                    tom1169
                    last edited by 12 May 2010, 17:17

                    Chris,

                    I just downloaded "Component stringer" to my 7.1 Free Version and I put it in my plugins folder..
                    Inside sketchup it shows under "Plugins" menu but when I highlight the component..it doesnt do anything...?
                    Please help, does that only work on PRO...? Thank You ..
                    stringer.png

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                      Chris Fullmer
                      last edited by 12 May 2010, 19:36

                      --COMPONENT STRINGER ANSWER--

                      Hi, make sure to select the component(s) AND the lines they will be strung onto. Then run the plugin. Please see the video in the component stringer thread. I'll try to move these two posts over to the component stringer thread later too so they do not interfere with the shape bender thread.

                      http://forums.sketchucation.com/viewtopic.php?f=323&t=23616

                      Thanks,

                      Chris

                      Lately you've been tan, suspicious for the winter.
                      All my Plugins I've written

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                        valence87
                        last edited by 13 May 2010, 02:23

                        Chris, any chance of a version that lets you bend around closed loops? That would make a great plugin even better πŸ˜„

                        Cheers,
                        Valence

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                          Chris Fullmer
                          last edited by 13 May 2010, 04:20

                          I agree it would definitely make it even better. Unfortunately I just did not have the skillz to make it do that when I wrote it. When I do re-write it, that will be one of the main things to fix for sure. That and about a dozen other things. I am currently working slowly on about 5 scripts. If I could just knock them out of the way, I might finally be able to undertake re-writing this beast.

                          Chris

                          Lately you've been tan, suspicious for the winter.
                          All my Plugins I've written

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                            TeKnoel
                            last edited by 13 May 2010, 14:19

                            Great update to one of my favorite plugins! Thanks Chris

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                              Judy Nielsen
                              last edited by 14 May 2010, 13:06

                              @chris fullmer said:

                              If you feel the plugin is installed correctly, and still can not select the red line, you might need to reset the model axis. The script only recognizes the original red axis. So try activating the select tool, then right click on the red axis and choose "Reset Axis". Then realign your items to be bent to that axis. If the option to reset axis is greyed out, then that means the axis already is correct, and the problem is something else. Good luck,

                              Chris

                              I also am having a problem selecting the red line. The plug in is there and seems to be activated. I tried resetting the red axis and the option was grayed out. I tried opening a new document created a rectangle, grouped it, created a parallel line on the red axis, created a curved line parallel to the rectangle. I then selected the rectangle but can not go any further. I am working on a mac. Any ideas? I would really like to use the Shape Bender plug in. I have to create multi curved tubing.

                              Thanks for any help.

                              Judy

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                                August
                                last edited by 15 May 2010, 07:16

                                @judy nielsen said:

                                [... I then selected the rectangle but can not go any further. ...

                                Just to be redundant, just in case:

                                Select the group containing the rectangle, then select the Shape Bender tool.

                                Then select the Guide Line, then the Target Line.

                                I hope this helps.

                                β€œAn idea, like a ghost, must be spoken to a little before it will explain itself.”
                                [floatr:v1mcbde2]-- Charles Dickens[/floatr:v1mcbde2]

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                                  Chris Fullmer
                                  last edited by 15 May 2010, 14:49

                                  Also you can upload your test model to the forum here and we can look at it and see if there is anything wrong with the set up. Once we determine if the model is correct, we can troubleshoot the rest of the script πŸ˜„

                                  Chris

                                  Lately you've been tan, suspicious for the winter.
                                  All my Plugins I've written

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                                    Judy Nielsen
                                    last edited by 17 May 2010, 16:48

                                    @chris fullmer said:

                                    Also you can upload your test model to the forum here and we can look at it and see if there is anything wrong with the set up. Once we determine if the model is correct, we can troubleshoot the rest of the script πŸ˜„

                                    Chris

                                    I have tried all I can think of. Attached it a sample file.

                                    Thanks

                                    Judy


                                    this is a simple test to see if my set up is ok.

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                                      August
                                      last edited by 18 May 2010, 00:01

                                      @judy nielsen said:

                                      ... Attached is a sample file.

                                      I have opened your file and at first I thought there is an extra edge at the top near edge of your rectangle group, outside the group. But it turns out that you have two identical groups on top of each other.

                                      Two components selected

                                      But that shouldn't matter. Either you have just one of those selected when you activate the tool or the tool should give you an error message.

                                      An error when two components are selected

                                      After activating the tool you get a cursor with a horizontal line and a prompt at the bottom of the window telling you to select the Guide Line. After you select the Guide Line, the cursor changes to have a bent line and the Start and End of the Guide Line are identified.

                                      The tool shows you the Start and End of the Guide Line

                                      Click the Target Curve and the tool computes for a little while and then shows you the mapping of it's proposed bend. Sometimes this is not right. The arrow keys let you change mapping modes.

                                      When you select the Target Curve, the tool (eventually) responds

                                      There are some important points to notice in this this mapping:

                                      • The number of segments that the Source Group is devided into is the number of segments of the Target Curve.
                                      • The distance between the Guide Line and the Source Group will be the same as the distance between the Target Curve and the Result Group.
                                      • The mapping from the Guide Line to the Source Group is done perpendicular to the Red axis.

                                      Press Enter to accept the Proposed Bend.

                                      When you accept the proposed result, it becomes part of your model

                                      You said you were trying to create multiple bends in tubing. (I presume the various Follow Me tools, the original SU version and the Ruby enhancements, are not working for you for some reason.) Here is what happens if the Guide Line is shorter than the Source Group:

                                      The Guide Lines can be shorter than the Source Group ...
                                      I think that's a very tubing-like bend.

                                      If the Guide Line is longer than the Source Group, you get this kind of thing:

                                      ... or the Guide Line can be longer.
                                      I have used this when I was wrapping text around a circle to allow a little space between words.

                                      This was all done in your model file. I didn't even remove the extra component.

                                      If this is not working for you, please let us know EXACTLY what is happening for you. Can you get the error message as in the second image above?

                                      I hope this helps,
                                      August

                                      β€œAn idea, like a ghost, must be spoken to a little before it will explain itself.”
                                      [floatr:v1mcbde2]-- Charles Dickens[/floatr:v1mcbde2]

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                                        Judy Nielsen
                                        last edited by 18 May 2010, 12:40

                                        Thanks for the response. I am not getting the error message in the second step nor am I getting the cursor with a horizontal line and a prompt at the bottom of the window telling me to select the Guide Line. All I get after selecting the component to bent is the cursor pointer. I can't select any thing. I have to reselect the selection tool to get out of shape bender. Are you working on a Mac or pc? I am working on a Mac.
                                        Thanks

                                        Judy

                                        @august said:

                                        @judy nielsen said:

                                        ... Attached is a sample file.

                                        I have opened your file and at first I thought there is an extra edge at the top near edge of your rectangle group, outside the group. But it turns out that you have two identical groups on top of each other.

                                        [attachment=6:2f1c1pv9]<!-- ia6 -->Judy Bender_sample 00.PNG<!-- ia6 -->[/attachment:2f1c1pv9]

                                        But that shouldn't matter. Either you have just one of those selected when you activate the tool or the tool should give you an error message.

                                        [attachment=5:2f1c1pv9]<!-- ia5 -->Judy Bender_sample 01.PNG<!-- ia5 -->[/attachment:2f1c1pv9]

                                        After activating the tool you get a cursor with a horizontal line and a prompt at the bottom of the window telling you to select the Guide Line. After you select the Guide Line, the cursor changes to have a bent line and the Start and End of the Guide Line are identified.

                                        [attachment=4:2f1c1pv9]<!-- ia4 -->Judy Bender_sample 02.PNG<!-- ia4 -->[/attachment:2f1c1pv9]

                                        Click the Target Curve and the tool computes for a little while and then shows you the mapping of it's proposed bend. Sometimes this is not right. The arrow keys let you change mapping modes.

                                        [attachment=3:2f1c1pv9]<!-- ia3 -->Judy Bender_sample 03.PNG<!-- ia3 -->[/attachment:2f1c1pv9]

                                        There are some important points to notice in this this mapping:

                                        • The number of segments that the Source Group is devided into is the number of segments of the Target Curve.
                                        • The distance between the Guide Line and the Source Group will be the same as the distance between the Target Curve and the Result Group.
                                        • The mapping from the Guide Line to the Source Group is done perpendicular to the Red axis.

                                        Press Enter to accept the Proposed Bend.

                                        [attachment=2:2f1c1pv9]<!-- ia2 -->Judy Bender_sample 04.PNG<!-- ia2 -->[/attachment:2f1c1pv9]

                                        You said you were trying to create multiple bends in tubing. (I presume the various Follow Me tools, the original SU version and the Ruby enhancements, are not working for you for some reason.) Here is what happens if the Guide Line is shorter than the Source Group:

                                        [attachment=1:2f1c1pv9]<!-- ia1 -->Judy Bender_sample 05.PNG<!-- ia1 -->[/attachment:2f1c1pv9]
                                        I think that's a very tubing-like bend.

                                        If the Guide Line is longer than the Source Group, you get this kind of thing:

                                        [attachment=0:2f1c1pv9]<!-- ia0 -->Judy Bender_sample 06.PNG<!-- ia0 -->[/attachment:2f1c1pv9]
                                        I have used this when I was wrapping text around a circle to allow a little space between words.

                                        This was all done in your model file. I didn't even remove the extra component.

                                        If this is not working for you, please let us know EXACTLY what is happening for you. Can you get the error message as in the second image above?

                                        I hope this helps,
                                        August

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                                          August
                                          last edited by 18 May 2010, 20:59

                                          @judy nielsen said:

                                          I am not getting the error message in the second step

                                          Let's start there. If you can't get there, the tool is not working.

                                          Do you have the Shape Bender button in your Toolbar?

                                          Shape Bender Button.PNG
                                          If not, the script is not loading properly and we need to go back to the script installation.

                                          If you do have the tool button, try clicking it with nothing selected. Do you get the error message?

                                          Try deliberately selecting two objects, then click the tool button. Do you get the error message?

                                          If you have the tool button but cannot get error messages, something is wrong.

                                          Sorry this is a slow process, but I cannot look over your shoulder. I hope it is as simple as a glitch somewhere in the sequence:
                                          What you are doing >> What you are writing >> What I am reading >> What I am imagining

                                          August

                                          β€œAn idea, like a ghost, must be spoken to a little before it will explain itself.”
                                          [floatr:v1mcbde2]-- Charles Dickens[/floatr:v1mcbde2]

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