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    • jeff hammondJ Offline
      jeff hammond
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      i guess my biggest gripe with mac vs pc (as an example.. this actually applies to all corporations etc) is that technological progress is hampered by these wars and we the users/consumers are the ones suffering And footing the bill.. and then we sit around arguing about the scraps πŸ˜„

      i'd like to elaborate my thoughts more but i just don't have the time to do so right now.

      that said, apple has become the epitome of this anti progress.. (well maybe not THE epitome.. i guess that would be the oil companies)

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      • Chris FullmerC Offline
        Chris Fullmer
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        All too true. Except I would add banks in their with the oil companies. Seems like we work hard to earn our money. They work hard to figure out devilish ways to skim off the top of our money. bleh.

        Anyhow, I suppose this whole Mac vs PC business is why so many people are in love with Linux?

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        • FrederikF Offline
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          @mike lucey said:

          Still, they look nice πŸ˜„

          Sure they do...
          And they are able to run Win 95... πŸ˜†


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          • soloS Offline
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            πŸ˜• πŸ˜’

            I bet it's just an image.

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            • K Offline
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              @solo said:

              :? πŸ˜’

              I bet it's just an image.

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              • honoluludesktopH Offline
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                Hardware and software is inseparable. However WinPCs are commodities, whereas an OSXPc is a boutique computer. Both are priced accordingly. I wounder if Apples, as boutique products, can exist without PCs, or remain a boutique item if they had a substantial market share. Like makers of other boutique products, Vuitton, Channel, Rolex, etc., they aggressively protect their "brand" name. That $10,000.00 hand bag is made of better fabric, but like razor blades, the cost of its materials is a negligible part of its perceived value. Carrying one however, provides status and style.

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                • Jean LemireJ Offline
                  Jean Lemire
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                  Hi folks.

                  I have used Apple computers since the Apple II era. I bought one in 1978.

                  After that, I bought a Mac every 10 years (yes ... ten). One in 1987, one in 1997 and my last one in 2007.

                  My motto is : find the computer that will run the software that you need and that will do it well, be easy to learn. In short, an efficient combination of software and hardware.

                  At work, I was able to use Macs from 1987 to 1997. After that, I was forced to switch to PCs. I adapted, and still do every day since I use a PC at work and a Mac at home.

                  There are not that many differences.

                  The PC works well and crash sometimes (about once or twice a week). I have to reboot and wait about 10 minutes (yes ... ten) for all the security scans and whatnot stuff to be loaded before I can resume work. Maybe this four years old machine is good for retirement.

                  The Mac don't crash often although I installed a few gadgets here and there. In fact, it don't crash. Applications quit sometime untexpectedly. Only a very few and only rarely. I just restart the application. No need to reboot. And, If I need to reboot, it takes 40 seconds on snow Leopard (10.6.3) or 20 seconds on a barebone Tiger (10.4.11) installed on my external hard drive.

                  This machine simply do what I tell it to do, period.

                  Guess which computer I prefer ?

                  It is not because of the name, it is because of the efficiency.

                  Similar to SketchUp efficiency.

                  For me, an efficient tool is a tool that don't interpose itself between me and the job I want to do.

                  Just ideas.

                  Jean (Johnny) Lemire from Repentigny, Quebec, Canada.

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                  • Mike LuceyM Offline
                    Mike Lucey
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                    Well said Jean ..... as per usual πŸ˜‰

                    For me, Macs have saved me quite a bit of money over the past 4 years in the fact that I have only once had to call to a service guy and this cost nothing! On average when I was using PC / Win I had to employ a service guy at least two or three times a year at average of €120 per visit. the equates to €120 x 3 x 4 = €1400! Putting that figure along with what my current 3 year old machine is worth on a trade-in (€1000 - 1200) will get me a new MacBook Pro.

                    I think the reason I had so many serious unrecoverable crashes is because I am always loading, checking out and unloading new programs. I still check out new stuff just as much but with no ill effects to the Mac.

                    Jean mentions efficiency as being the key to success. I think the fact that Macs and their OS have been put together and fine tuned by a single company must be the key to producing a reliable machine. This being the case I can also understand and partially agree with the 'closed shop' company policy of Apple.

                    Mike (apphole) πŸ˜„

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                      @mike lucey said:

                      Well said Jean ..... as per usual πŸ˜‰

                      I think the reason I had so many serious unrecoverable crashes is because I am always loading, checking out and unloading new programs. I still check out new stuff just as much but with no ill effects to the Mac.

                      Mike (apphole) πŸ˜„

                      that's because you can't get half the programs for mac, to check out. πŸ˜†
                      you apphole! ❗

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                      • TIGT Offline
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                        Even the virus writers don't support the Mac OS 🀣

                        Seriously though folks, I started in Unix, migrated to Mac OS [I used to be an 'expert AppleScripter'] then to PC et al - I know it's the wrong way round πŸ˜’

                        It's a bit like the current election fiasco in the UK... each has their good points and each their bad, we need a coalition, but with the Lib-Dems as Linux , Lab/Con as Mac/PC or perhaps vice versa ? It ain't goin' to happen soon..... 😲

                        TIG

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                        • jeff hammondJ Offline
                          jeff hammond
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                          @tig said:

                          Even the virus writers don't support the Mac OS 🀣

                          shhhhh!

                          that's what i'm sort of nervous about with apple making this huge business leap.. i'd hate for them to get too popular!
                          πŸ˜„

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                          • soloS Offline
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                            LOL, I was reading some comments of Apple users when learning that one can mod the ipad to run Windows, one guy's remark was " Oh crap! ipad has a virus" 🀣

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                            • AnssiA Offline
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                              What do people do to make their computers crash? I have not seen a bluescreen for years. I knew how to make my old Windows NT PC crash (opening a text file from an external UDF rewritable CD drive did the trick) but since then I have not seen a software-induced crash. Failing hardware can cause crashes, but in that respect PCs and Macs seem to be equal.

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                              • P Offline
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                                @anssi said:

                                What do people do to make their computers crash? I have not seen a bluescreen for years. I knew how to make my old Windows NT PC crash (opening a text file from an external UDF rewritable CD drive did the trick) but since then I have not seen a software-induced crash. Failing hardware can cause crashes, but in that respect PCs and Macs seem to be equal.

                                Anssi

                                Good question - I haven't had software crash ever that I recall, just hardware problems.

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                                • Mike LuceyM Offline
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                                  In my case from what I remember, the problems occurred when I removed the programs. It often happened that files that should not be have taken out were.

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                                    @khai said:

                                    @solo said:

                                    :? πŸ˜’

                                    I bet it's just an image.

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                                    • Mike LuceyM Offline
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                                      I see Adobe is taking an interesting approach to Apple's decision to dump them πŸ˜„

                                      http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/13/adobe-targets-apple-in-ad-campaign-launched-today-publishes-ope/


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                                      • soloS Offline
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                                        It gets worse for Apple.

                                        http://www.bitterwallet.com/a-bad-day-for-apple-as-they-get-sued-and-people-kill-themselves/29459

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                                        • soloS Offline
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                                          HTC Fires Back, Sues Apple
                                          Taiwanese phone maker says Apple has violated five patents, asks to ban sales of the iPhone, iPad, and iPod.

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                                          • Mike LuceyM Offline
                                            Mike Lucey
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                                            That's what happens when a company climes up the ladder. There are lot of others trying to pull the down. Whatever about the patent cases, the suicides are terrible. Maybe its about time Apple stated manufacturing their products in the USA!

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