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    • GaieusG Offline
      Gaieus
      last edited by

      Ok, true, Wodan, thanks. But without projecting that geometry (i.e. a "real cube") is it not possible then?

      Gai...

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      • TIGT Offline
        TIG Moderator
        last edited by

        💭
        You mean a 30/60 ISOMETRIC view ? Or a 30/30 ?
        I think Didier did something on that...
        Searching - will post back... 😒

        This is an Isometric Style that adds an isometric paper underlay that might help get a view right...
        http://forums.sketchucation.com/viewtopic.php?p=121278#p121278

        An AXONOMETRIC view has no the axes at 30/60 or 45/45 degrees ?

        TIG

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        • Wo3DanW Offline
          Wo3Dan
          last edited by

          Hi Gaieus,

          I don't understand your question. Are you having problems with the model?

          Printing (Front) to scale is possible, resulting in 30/60-axonometric view. With or without the line cube visible.
          In fact the lines making up the block A are there only for informative reasons. It could have been anything, as long as there is at least one entity, preferably on a turned of layer. The same for component B. And as long as you do have the distorted component B with A in it.

          Place your model in A and it will show in a correct axonometry. One that you can print to scale.

          As for projections, I only mentioned it in case someone wants to write a script. It would be nice to include a projection option too.

          Note that rotating your model inside A by 90 drgrees will give you the correct axonometric view from the side, still in SU's Front view...etc.

          So what is not correct with this technique?

          Wo3Dan

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          • GaieusG Offline
            Gaieus
            last edited by

            I did not say it is not correct, did I?
            What I meant was that you need to "distort" the geometry to get this view - unless I completely oversaw something.

            Gai...

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            • Wo3DanW Offline
              Wo3Dan
              last edited by

              @gaieus said:

              I did not say it is not correct, did I?
              What I meant was that you need to "distort" the geometry to get this view - unless I completely oversaw something.

              That's why I said I did not understand. But forget about it.

              %(#0000FF)[Yes and no. You only do it once. In fact I already just did it for you or for whoever needs it, for all future models.
              From now on SU distorts your (any) model that you place inside A. In a split second. To a proper 30/60 axonometry.]

              If you open SU twice you can even work with copy and paste in place to speed things up without the bother of working near/in component A.
              That's why it would be handy to convert the whole (simple) procedure into aa script to have an extra standard view: 30/60 axonometry.

              For now, save the file as a template for future use

              How about you writing the plugin+button for us? 😄

              Wo3Dan

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              • GaieusG Offline
                Gaieus
                last edited by

                Come on, Wodan! You know I cannot script!
                😄

                But indeed, if this is only like a snap as you say, good idea for a plugin. 👍

                (Any takers?)

                Gai...

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                • Wo3DanW Offline
                  Wo3Dan
                  last edited by

                  @tig said:

                  This will do it......

                  Thanks TIG. And you didn't even take a break for coffee? Amazing how you guys put these things together!!! All my attempts to grasp ruby have been without success so far. Gaieus, we are in the same corner.

                  Now let's see if I can get it to work to see what it does to my PC.

                  Wo3Dan

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                  • TIGT Offline
                    TIG Moderator
                    last edited by

                    Remember that after setting the axo or iso view you can only zoom in/out and pan, orbiting will mess up the view.
                    So it's a good idea to set the axo or iso then pan/zoom to the required view and save it as a Scene tab. Then you can mess around orbiting etc to make the model, but return to the axo or iso view by clicking its Scene tab...
                    ☀

                    TIG

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                    • TIGT Offline
                      TIG Moderator
                      last edited by

                      This will do it

                      ### 2010 (c) TIG
                      ### paste code into a file in Plugins folder as 'axo+iso.rb'
                      ### sets camera to 30/60 axonometric view and zooms extents
                      require 'sketchup.rb'
                      ###
                      def axo3060
                        model=Sketchup.active_model
                        view=model.active_view
                        camera=view.camera
                        eye=Geom;;Point3d.new(-25.3259,-5.00502,463.851)
                        target=Geom;;Point3d.new(10.9614,15.9032,41.225)
                        up=Geom;;Vector3d.new(0.862238,0.496811,0.0986113)
                        perspective=false
                        newcamera=Sketchup;;Camera.new(eye,target,up,perspective)
                        view.camera=newcamera
                        Sketchup.send_action("viewZoomExtents;")
                      end
                      ### sets camera to 30/30 isometric view and zooms extents
                      def iso3030
                        model=Sketchup.active_model
                        view=model.active_view
                        camera=view.camera
                        eye=Geom;;Point3d.new(-219.18,-239.658,258.471)
                        target=Geom;;Point3d.new(72.869,52.1777,-23.5562)
                        up=Geom;;Vector3d.new(0.398992, 0.398701, 0.825738)
                        perspective=false
                        newcamera=Sketchup;;Camera.new(eye,target,up,perspective)
                        view.camera=newcamera
                        Sketchup.send_action("viewZoomExtents;")
                      end
                      ###
                      ###
                      

                      To use it type axo3060 in the Ruby Console - it sets the camera and zooms extents...
                      The axes are set at 30/60 degrees [G/R], perspective is 'off' and the verticals [B] are vertical...
                      OR type iso3030 in the Ruby Console and the axes are set at 30/30 degrees [G/R] etc...
                      🤓

                      TIG

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                      • GaieusG Offline
                        Gaieus
                        last edited by

                        👍
                        Tanks TIG - and of course, Wodan, too.

                        Gai...

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                        • david_hD Offline
                          david_h
                          last edited by

                          I didn't realize he was asking for Axonometric. I thought it was just a standard 30 /60 perspective. My bad.

                          If I make it look easy...It is probably easy

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                          • TIGT Offline
                            TIG Moderator
                            last edited by

                            @unknownuser said:

                            I didn't realize he was asking for Axonometric. I thought it was just a standard 30 /60 perspective. My bad.

                            IF he did then your method is dead easy... just draw guide or line parallel to a side and rotate it 60 degrees... stand you camera on the line and everything is as you showed... 🤓

                            TIG

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                            • D Offline
                              d_r_i_x
                              last edited by

                              i've been looking for something like this for quite some time now. Works a treat.
                              Would it also be possible to have it show a 45 45 axonometric view?

                              http://www.proceduralstrategies.net

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                              • TIGT Offline
                                TIG Moderator
                                last edited by

                                @d_r_i_x said:

                                i've been looking for something like this for quite some time now. Works a treat.
                                Would it also be possible to have it show a 45 45 axonometric view?

                                It would be axo4545 and also axo6030 - however they are the end of a list right now... 😞

                                TIG

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                                • E Offline
                                  elaohu
                                  last edited by

                                  in addition to what i mentioned, the ruby file by Tif, the red and green lines are right, but the vertical blue line is wrong (the view is wrong), but i dont know how to fix that???? anybody??
                                  just need to change the vertical view in axo like the one in iso in the code, but i dont know how

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                                  • E Offline
                                    elaohu
                                    last edited by

                                    i download TIF's ruby code, it works perfect for the green and red axis, but

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                                    • honoluludesktopH Offline
                                      honoluludesktop
                                      last edited by

                                      Latecomers wild guess. Do you need SU to be in "parallel projection view"?

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                                      • TIGT Offline
                                        TIG Moderator
                                        last edited by

                                        @elaohu said:

                                        in addition to what i mentioned, the ruby file by Tif, the red and green lines are right, but the vertical blue line is wrong (the view is wrong), but i dont know how to fix that???? anybody??
                                        just need to change the vertical view in axo like the one in iso in the code, but i dont know how

                                        Please explain how it is 'wrong' - a screen-shot could help... 😕

                                        TIG

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                                        • S Offline
                                          smhbrv
                                          last edited by

                                          I did it. Thank you 😄
                                          But Only, axo3060 and iso3030 view ?
                                          Can we make more choice ?
                                          Axo4545 etc... ?

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