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[Plugin] Component Stringer UPDATED May 23, 2013

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  • K Offline
    kostas_designer
    last edited by 25 Nov 2009, 08:56

    Great plugin Chris!

    I was trying it while working on an industrial component, i kind of chain.
    Problem is that i cannot edit the single component because ita has a given dimension.
    So, arraying straight segments is not a problem as i can use the Copy Array Groups or Components plugin, but when it comes to follow a curve things get tough (at least for me! πŸ˜• )
    I agree that having the control of sthe spacing would be best for many applications.

    See some screenshots for explanation:


    component and path to follow


    straight arraying


    Component stringer. Components don't match properly


    plugins comparison

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    • P Offline
      plot-paris
      last edited by 25 Nov 2009, 11:33

      @kostas_designer said:

      ...having the control of the spacing would be best for many applications.
      +1

      Simon, I love your stuff. keep it coming. these show off nicely, what the plugin can do...

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      • S Offline
        simon le bon
        last edited by 26 Nov 2009, 10:50

        Hi jeff and Jakob, Thanks for nice words.. So I can be restful: I am not that sort of bat vampirising the threads I sometime feel I am πŸ˜• (my small paranoia I'm afraid.)
        http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj245/Spendauballet/generalPicts/voldragon.gif

        Hi Kostas!
        I'm sorry, I don't understand your problem (I can't see the details of your pictures!).
        Mercy for us, get a real print screen and make close ups πŸ˜‰

        @unknownuser said:

        having the control of sthe spacing would be best for many applications.
        For me the spacing in a chain is invariant so..
        May be you want to do something like that:

        http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj245/Spendauballet/SketchUp/Kostas.jpg

        If it is the case , you can apply this solution:
        Copy Array Along Path tool...have a look.

        Hi Chris,

        @chris fullmer said:

        You would like to be able to automatically select every 10th pillar in that image for example? Or every 5th pillar? Is that the idea?

        Yes You've got it!
        But I would like be able to do many other various things: may be in this exemple above > put 3 components in place of pillars every 10 pillars...
        This is the reason why I think what we need is mainly a special selecting tool with an incremental feature, (but also an array to select freely into it, and also may be a feature of aleatory choice)
        And very important to be able to do the reverse selection.

        http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj245/Spendauballet/SketchUp/compteur.jpg

        this way we can -do a first pass, delete what we want to change,

        • Do another pass with the other component and delete everything but the previous holes
          and put the two passes together.
          This way we can do the number of passes we want.
          We can also mix variant and invariant (in direction) components....

        @unknownuser said:

        That could be built into my tool, but it would only work with components placed using my tool. But it would be do-able.

        But this special feature would be simply top cool πŸ˜‰

        πŸ€“ simon

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        • P Offline
          plot-paris
          last edited by 26 Nov 2009, 11:37

          actually, that may be a good idea for a different ruby request... a selection tool, that automatically recognizes component arrays (whether distributed on an even grid or along a path...) and then lets you do various selection scenarios. ideally a dialog would pop up that let you change your selections dynamically (or, at least have an update butten, that lets you change selections without closing the dialog)...

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          • G Offline
            Gaieus
            last edited by 26 Nov 2009, 11:46

            Simon,

            I absolutely love the way you fully exploit these different (and of course, wonderful) tools and model things probably even the author didn't even dream about!

            Cheers and keep posting, please! πŸ‘

            Gai...

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            • S Offline
              simon le bon
              last edited by 27 Nov 2009, 12:42

              😳 😳 😳
              As usual I am tiring everybody with my extensions. I promise that this is the last one. You know , when I begin something I go on surrounds until I can think I have finished. May be those studies will brought some help to someone in some future πŸ˜†

              ../VARIATIONS on Helical matter..


              http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj245/Spendauballet/SketchUp/clfCompntStringer015th.jpg


              http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj245/Spendauballet/SketchUp/clfCompntStringer016th.jpg


              http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj245/Spendauballet/SketchUp/clfCompntStringer017th.jpg


              http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj245/Spendauballet/SketchUp/clfCompntStringer018th.jpg

              The main point to obtain a good result is to work firmly on the curve, in order to give it the real number of segments: individual in orientation and indentical in length

              http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj245/Spendauballet/SketchUp/clfCompntStringer019th.jpg


              http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj245/Spendauballet/SketchUp/clfCompntStringer020th.jpg

              Another variation: Triple use! of Component Stringer πŸ˜†

              http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj245/Spendauballet/SketchUp/clfCompntStringer021th.jpg


              http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj245/Spendauballet/SketchUp/clfCompntStringer022th.jpg


              http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj245/Spendauballet/SketchUp/clfCompntStringer023th.jpg

              The result isn't so beautiful 😎 Well, it is just for example

              http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj245/Spendauballet/SketchUp/clfCompntStringer024th.jpg

              simon
              
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              • S Offline
                simon le bon
                last edited by 27 Nov 2009, 13:10

                Dear Gaieus
                http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj245/Spendauballet/generalPicts/matrix-03.gif

                Your so kind words 😳 me!! πŸ˜„

                @unknownuser said:

                and then lets you do various selection scenarios. ideally a dialog would pop up that let you change your selections dynamically
                +1

                EscapeArtist (Jeff) shows with his Dna

                http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj245/Spendauballet/SketchUp/EscapeArtist_dna.jpg

                A very cool other use of what I have in mind with this possible selecting tool:
                Using sequences of the same component colored differently. In the particular case of a dna, the possibility of selecting elements into an array of data would be probably the most useful..

                http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj245/Spendauballet/generalPicts/grenouilenenuphar.gif
                simon

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                • S Offline
                  simon le bon
                  last edited by 27 Nov 2009, 15:01

                  Hi Chris, Hi SketchY fellows,
                  I'm following Component Stringer Study.

                  Chains are now so easy to produce πŸ‘ πŸ‘ πŸ˜‰

                  "Component rotation" = 90Β° ; Fredoscale by Center

                  http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj245/Spendauballet/SketchUp/clfCompntStringer010th.jpg

                  Helical study:

                  See Http for some explanation:
                  A PoorFlatEllipsoidIndian Bowl


                  http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj245/Spendauballet/SketchUp/clfCompntStringer011th.jpg

                  The joints are not welding perfectly, but if we need a good welding, we can use this one as a gauge..

                  "Scaling Uniform"; "Component Rotation" 15Β°

                  http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj245/Spendauballet/SketchUp/clfCompntStringer012th.jpg

                  Double use of Component Stringer πŸ˜‰ πŸ˜†
                  (With a smart use of "Total Rotation" 15Β°

                  [flash=500,405:2xup4in2]http://www.youtube.com/v/CEPRPA1TqwY[/flash:2xup4in2]

                  +++Making a straight line as it was a curve in order to use it as the "path" to copy components on.

                  1. a reverse line is added to our line (or else, our line is right clic and divided by minimum two) in order to apply "Weld" because Weld need at least two elements to be applied..

                  2)This welded line is now (Bezier curves installed) right clic converted to segmented polyline.
                  3)Now apply "Component Stringer" on this "straight curve" πŸ˜† "Scaling Stretch" ; "Component Rotation" 15Β° (in case -15Β° ❗ )

                  http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj245/Spendauballet/SketchUp/clfCompntStringer013th.jpg

                  Same action on a Bezier Curve

                  http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj245/Spendauballet/SketchUp/clfCompntStringer014th.jpg

                  *simon

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                  • Bob JamesB Offline
                    Bob James
                    last edited by 30 Nov 2009, 16:02

                    Simon, there's no other word for you but awesome πŸ‘

                    i7-4930K 3.4Ghz, 2x GTX780 6GB, 32GB DDR3-1600 ECC, OCZ Vertex 4 500GB, WD Black 3TB, 32TB NAS, 4x 27" Monitors, SpaceMouse Pro, X-keys XK-60

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                    • CarrozzaC Offline
                      Carrozza
                      last edited by 30 Nov 2009, 21:32

                      Men, this plugin with help of fantasy and skills (like Simon') are a killer combo!

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                      • Chris FullmerC Offline
                        Chris Fullmer
                        last edited by 30 Nov 2009, 22:36

                        Hey, looks great Simon. I love the way you dig in and study the plugins. I think its helpful for users to see how they can be used, and its helpful for me to see how people are trying to use these scripts. Helps think of new workflow improvements.

                        In fact, the next version of componet stringer lets you select more than 1 component. And it gives you the option of random placement of all selected, or ordered. So the reandom placement will help in the palisade example you just showed. It would make it quicker to place random boards.

                        The next version will also support series of non-connected edges (I think I already hinted at that earlier) and also supports closed loop selections of lines. It also includes a great little tool to reverse the direction components are "strung". I'm trying to get it all put together for one big release soon.

                        Also, I'm thining about the offset placement possibilities. I'm trying to figure out how that should be implemented. If anyone has any thoughts on how they want to see that work, I'd be interseted in hearing it.

                        Chris

                        Lately you've been tan, suspicious for the winter.
                        All my Plugins I've written

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                        • S Offline
                          simon le bon
                          last edited by 1 Dec 2009, 08:49

                          Thank you Bob & Carrozza ! your encouragement warms my heart..

                          The following is probably the last idea that I wanted to develop With Component Stringer.
                          I dedicate it to our so nice fellow and great author, Chris.

                          It is his:"TOTAL CHRIS FULLMER RANDOM PALISADE"
                          (because made about totally with a set of his own tools πŸ˜‰ )

                          How to produce a palisade constituted with random singular boards!!

                          My idea is to copy palisade's boards along a path constituted by a random segmented curve Using ComponentStringer/Stretch mode.


                          http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj245/Spendauballet/SketchUp/clf_CompString_025th.jpg


                          http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj245/Spendauballet/SketchUp/clf_CompString_026th.jpg


                          http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj245/Spendauballet/SketchUp/clf_CompString_027th.jpg


                          http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj245/Spendauballet/SketchUp/clf_CompString_028th.jpg

                          Using ShapeBender this way: same length for the curve and for the grouped segmented line, the resulting ShapeBender Component keep closely the same lengths of segments inside the curve than those of the segmented line πŸ˜‰ πŸ˜‰
                          [Plugin] Shape Bender Beta v0.51

                          http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj245/Spendauballet/SketchUp/clf_CompString_029th.jpg

                          [Plugin] Select Lines by Length
                          Jim_Selection Memory

                          http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj245/Spendauballet/SketchUp/clf_CompString_030th.jpg


                          http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj245/Spendauballet/SketchUp/clf_CompString_031th.jpg


                          http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj245/Spendauballet/SketchUp/clf_CompString_032th.jpg


                          http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj245/Spendauballet/SketchUp/clf_CompString_033th.jpg

                          We delete 3/4 component for each segment( artistically if possible 🀣 )

                          http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj245/Spendauballet/SketchUp/clf_CompString_034th.jpg

                          Et voila votre jolie pallissade β˜€

                          http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj245/Spendauballet/SketchUp/clf_CompString_035th.jpg

                          Dear Chris,dear all,
                          with my very friendship..
                          πŸ˜„ simon.

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                          • S Offline
                            simon le bon
                            last edited by 1 Dec 2009, 08:51

                            .. πŸ‘ β˜€

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                            • pilouP Offline
                              pilou
                              last edited by 1 Dec 2009, 09:41

                              Suggestion
                              A rotation (s) of object on it own axis?
                              A scale of object?

                              Frenchy Pilou
                              Is beautiful that please without concept!
                              My Little site :)

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                              • P Offline
                                plot-paris
                                last edited by 1 Dec 2009, 17:20

                                wow, Chris. thats sounds like a reason (or several for that matter) to be excited about the next release... πŸŽ‰

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                                • H Offline
                                  hsjzyangbin
                                  last edited by 20 Dec 2009, 09:29

                                  Hi,Chris,I wish your 'Component Stringer'and TIG'S "GROW.RB" combine together


                                  ww.png

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                                  • mitcorbM Offline
                                    mitcorb
                                    last edited by 15 Jan 2010, 02:43

                                    Chris:
                                    When using the uniform scale parameter, does the script start out with a set multiple? I am guessing say 1.5 x the scale of the component? and then the factor is applied to each subsequent component instance?
                                    If this is so, would there be a user changeable scale factor parameter in the future?
                                    By the way, this is a nice tool and I appreciate your sharing it.

                                    I take the slow, deliberate approach in my aimless wandering.

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                                    • Chris FullmerC Offline
                                      Chris Fullmer
                                      last edited by 15 Jan 2010, 05:49

                                      Hmm, good idea. That is not the way it works, but it would be fairly easy to implement (I think). No guarantees how fast I'll get it done, but I'll try to put this feature in the mext release.

                                      Chris

                                      Lately you've been tan, suspicious for the winter.
                                      All my Plugins I've written

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                                      • JClementsJ Offline
                                        JClements
                                        last edited by 30 Jan 2010, 22:56

                                        In the attached I have component which I have attempted to string along a path in an orientation similar to that of the component. I've played with changing the component's axis but can't seem to get it right by only changing the component axis (rotating the component and then reseting its axis can work).

                                        Chris, what is the secret? Your video mentions setting the blue axis but what of the red and green and at what corner of the component?

                                        Signed, all strung out.
                                        John


                                        STRINGER - What are the rules to getting component oriented on path correctly.skp

                                        John | Illustrator | Beaverton, Oregon

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                                        • Chris FullmerC Offline
                                          Chris Fullmer
                                          last edited by 31 Jan 2010, 17:42

                                          Hi John, I set is up so that the blue axis in the component lines itseful up with the line spegment it is being placed on in the path. That is as much as I control directly in the script. The x and y axes are determined through what SU calls "an arbitrary axis rule." Digging into this, it appears that once I set the blue axis, SU forces the component's red axis to lie flat on the x,y plane. Then the component orients itself so that the green axis is pointing in a positive direction (always pointing slightly upard, or completely upward if the path being followed is flat on the ground).

                                          So, if your path is flat, then the blue will follow the segment it is to stetch over. And the green will point upwards in the model's blue direction.

                                          But once your path gets off the flat x,y plane, the it gets a little trickier to guess how the pices will orient themselves.

                                          Sorry thats not much help,

                                          Chris

                                          Lately you've been tan, suspicious for the winter.
                                          All my Plugins I've written

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