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  • T Offline
    TIG Moderator
    last edited by 30 Nov 2009, 12:58

    Occurs in all models - even brand new ones...
    Try it, open a new model make a few simple components, copy scale etc - context-menu is OK.
    Explode one of the Instances - you now have wrongly greyed-out context-menu items !
    Undoing the explode doesn't get the menu fixed !
    Only corrected by closing SUp and reopening model.
    Happens for me consistently...

    TIG

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      thomthom
      last edited by 30 Nov 2009, 13:02

      @tig said:

      Occurs in all models - even brand new ones...
      Try it, open a new model make a few simple components, copy scale etc - context-menu is OK.
      Explode one of the Instances - you now have wrongly greyed-out context-menu items !
      Undoing the explode doesn't get the menu fixed !
      Only corrected by closing SUp and reopening model.
      Happens for me consistently...

      Can't reproduce.

      Only time I've ever seen it on my own machine - excluding repeated right-clicking - was with my Selection Toys when I made two context menu items per layer.
      It seems that the scenario where this bug crops up vary from user to user.

      Thomas Thomassen β€” SketchUp Monkey & Coding addict
      List of my plugins and link to the CookieWare fund

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        TIG Moderator
        last edited by 30 Nov 2009, 13:06

        Might be a clash of certain script combinations ?
        Haven't got to the bottom of it yet... πŸ˜’

        TIG

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        • T Offline
          thomthom
          last edited by 30 Nov 2009, 13:09

          Right-clicking will reproduce it without any plugins. But I suspect that plugins increase the chance of triggering it.

          Thomas Thomassen β€” SketchUp Monkey & Coding addict
          List of my plugins and link to the CookieWare fund

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          • F Offline
            flyashy
            last edited by 30 Nov 2009, 13:14

            Hi Tig,
            nope. didn't happen when I made copies of components and exploded one instance. In fact I went around like a madman right-clicking everything in sight too just to make sure.
            The only difference being I'd emptied my plugins directory. Just moved everything including the examples folder to a temp folder.

            I also opened up some of the fairy complex models to check if it was the complexity of the file that prompted this..nothing. No greying out.

            Could it be about scripts that have submenus in the context menu? I did not have any scripts that had submenus before this started happening.

            thanks,
            flyashy

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            • T Offline
              thomthom
              last edited by 30 Nov 2009, 13:22

              hm.. when my Selection Toys caused this it was after adding lots of menus to sub-menu in the context menu.

              flyashy: before moving the plugins, where you able to reproduce it by right-clicking then? but after clearing all plugins you can't reproduce it?

              Thomas Thomassen β€” SketchUp Monkey & Coding addict
              List of my plugins and link to the CookieWare fund

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                TIG Moderator
                last edited by 30 Nov 2009, 13:26

                Another consistently reproducible way I've found of making some context-menu items become greyed-out is caused by right-clicking...
                First I left-click pick on something to highlight it, THEN right-click for the context-menu - all its menu items appear OK.
                I do this many many times - I always get good results.
                Now without having anything highlighted I right-click over something, and it will become highlighted [although I didn't actively click onto it] and now many of the the context-menu items will be grey-out !
                However, if I THEN left-click onto that object [or any other] to highlight it first, and THEN right-click the greyed-out context-menu items magically rejuvenate themselves [unlike my previously reported 'post-explode' grey-out glitch which is irreversible unless I restart SUp and reopen the model] πŸ˜• β˜€

                Go figure...

                TIG

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                • F Offline
                  flyashy
                  last edited by 30 Nov 2009, 13:34

                  @TT,
                  erm..I didn't try the exploding instance method before moving the plugins, but yes I could right click and get the greyed out menu.
                  right now in the process of picking out the non submenu scripts and putting them back to see if the greying out happens or not..
                  lessee..

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                  • J Offline
                    jim smith
                    last edited by 30 Nov 2009, 15:20

                    I have noticed functions drop out lately, and as a user since 2002, it seems to me this has happened only since the 7.0 upgrade. It isn't often but usually after I have been working on a model for a long time,maybe 4 or 5 hours, suddenly I can't copy anything - copy only moves objects. Some other functions will gray out as well but I have not kept track of which ones. The copy drop out is the most annoying and what I have been doing is closing GSU and reopen it which seems to rejuvinate everything. I have not kept track of what triggers the drop outs, except large models, lots of left and right clicking and long sessions. I will keep notes now that I see it is not just me.

                    "Out of clutter find simplicity,
                    from discord find harmony,
                    In the middle of difficulty lies opportunity"
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                    • EarthMoverE Offline
                      EarthMover
                      last edited by 30 Nov 2009, 17:47

                      It's been about 5 months that I've been dealing with the issue.

                      A work around without having to restart, is to select the object/group/component and then access the context (right click) menu through the Edit menu..all the way at the bottom.

                      I also find that the menu will go gray for a long while, then sometimes, it will spontaneously come back for a little while. Also, while most options are grayed out, I can always access the Selection Toys options, while nothing else works.


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                      • GaieusG Offline
                        Gaieus
                        last edited by 30 Nov 2009, 18:31

                        Seems like Thom rigged the app so that at least his plugin will work.
                        This way we can say that "see, Google, a plugin scripter can make sure his plugin does not grey out - why cannot you?"
                        πŸ˜„

                        Gai...

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                        • T Offline
                          thomthom
                          last edited by 30 Nov 2009, 18:43

                          😎

                          Thomas Thomassen β€” SketchUp Monkey & Coding addict
                          List of my plugins and link to the CookieWare fund

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                            flyashy
                            last edited by 30 Nov 2009, 19:40

                            Okay end of experiment.
                            in short,

                            Heavy file + Lots of plugins + repeated right click = grayed out menu.

                            back to a less engorged plugins directory...

                            sigh

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                              thomthom
                              last edited by 2 Dec 2009, 13:54

                              Jinx!

                              Now I got it as well with a model I worked on. But the odd thing is that Selection Toys didn't grey out. o_O

                              Thomas Thomassen β€” SketchUp Monkey & Coding addict
                              List of my plugins and link to the CookieWare fund

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                              • EscapeArtistE Offline
                                EscapeArtist
                                last edited by 3 Dec 2009, 02:55

                                I have a workaround that has worked for me without removing any plugins.

                                When your right-click menu grays out, go to EDIT > and at the very bottom of the drop-down should the item that you just selected/right-clicked. Click that, and the same options will be available as your right-click. Select what you wanted and continue. The right-click menu will be available again until the next gray-out. Repeat for each gray-out.

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                                  flyashy
                                  last edited by 3 Dec 2009, 18:08

                                  thanks escapeartist,
                                  i must try that out next time i get the jinx πŸ˜‰

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                                  • EscapeArtistE Offline
                                    EscapeArtist
                                    last edited by 19 Dec 2009, 20:18

                                    I've noticed something else. This error seems to occur after an auto-save event.

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                                    • T Offline
                                      thomthom
                                      last edited by 20 Dec 2009, 02:20

                                      @escapeartist said:

                                      I've noticed something else. This error seems to occur after an auto-save event.

                                      hmm... that should be easy to test. what happens if you disable auto-save?

                                      Thomas Thomassen β€” SketchUp Monkey & Coding addict
                                      List of my plugins and link to the CookieWare fund

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                                      • EscapeArtistE Offline
                                        EscapeArtist
                                        last edited by 20 Dec 2009, 04:30

                                        @thomthom said:

                                        @escapeartist said:

                                        I've noticed something else. This error seems to occur after an auto-save event.

                                        hmm... that should be easy to test. what happens if you disable auto-save?

                                        Sketchup crashes and I lose my work... πŸ˜† πŸ˜’

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                                          lapx
                                          last edited by 1 Dec 2011, 22:34

                                          @unknownuser said:

                                          When your right-click menu grays out, go to EDIT > and at the very bottom of the drop-down should the item that you just selected/right-clicked. Click that, and the same options will be available as your right-click. Select what you wanted and continue. The right-click menu will be available again until the next gray-out. Repeat for each gray-out.

                                          This does not work for me. Is google finding a fix for this or is there a workaround. Its becoming impossible to work! Help?

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