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    • juan974J Offline
      juan974
      last edited by

      hello,
      in help : 2DtoolsHelp.htm, the freehand icon is not the good one
      i ll try this plugin at work

      Juan974 (reunion island)

      juan974 (Réunion island)
      website : http://sketchucation.com/click.php?url=http://www.tarn.us

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      • TIGT Offline
        TIG Moderator
        last edited by

        Here's v4.1 http://forums.sketchucation.com/viewtopic.php?p=185760#p185760
        There are minor corrections to the Help htm images etc...

        TIG

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        • TIGT Offline
          TIG Moderator
          last edited by

          Here's v4.2 http://forums.sketchucation.com/viewtopic.php?p=185760#p185760
          No changes to the main 'workings'... Just some minor changes to a few strings in Adjust/LineStyle/Tidyup and their lingvo files that weren't translating properly.

          TIG

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            dedmin
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            Thanks, TIG! Seems You slept well ☀ ☀

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            • juan974J Offline
              juan974
              last edited by

              hello tig,
              great plugin,

              • but line weight are locked in inch and i m drawing in millimeter, it s possible to have for example a 0.1 weight of the unit you use?
              • pattern works fine
              • drawing on selected plane could be fine too, on rotated plane, or select the plane with 3 points

              i m thinking to not renew my autocad lt licence.

              big thank you

              Juan974 (reunion island)

              juan974 (Réunion island)
              website : http://sketchucation.com/click.php?url=http://www.tarn.us

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              • TIGT Offline
                TIG Moderator
                last edited by

                @juan974 said:

                hello tig,
                great plugin,

                • but line weight are locked in inch and i m drawing in millimeter, it s possible to have for example a 0.1 weight of the unit you use?
                • pattern works fine
                • drawing on selected plane could be fine too, on rotated plane, or select the plane with 3 points
                  i m thinking to not renew my autocad lt licence.
                  big thank you
                  Juan974 (reunion island)

                I took the decision to set the line widths in fractions and multiples of an inch because lines only need 'relative' proportional thicknesses...
                After all 1/4"=~6mm 1/2"=~12mm 1"=~1", 2"=~50mm 4"=~100mm etc
                I originally had a set in mm to mimic the old 'Rotring' pens mm thickness 0.13,0.18,0.25,0.35,0.50,0.75,1.0,1.5,2.0,3.0,4.0,6.0,8.0 etc with x10 and x100 versions, but I eventually thought not to do it ...
                IF there is enough pressure to introduce a 'mm' version I can do it [with a bit of tweaking] - it's easy to find the model's units and set to " or mm...
                [Yo tomé la decisión de fijar el ancho de las líneas en las fracciones y múltiplos de las pulgadas ['inches'], porque sólo las líneas necesidad de espesores proporcional relativa ...
                Después de todo 1/4"=~6mm 1/2"=~12mm 1"=~1", 2"=~50mm 4"=~100mm, etc
                Originalmente tenía una serie en mm para imitar las viejas plumas 'Rotring' en 'mm' 0.13,0.18,0.25,0.35,0.50,0.75,1.0,1.5,2.0,3.0,4.0,6.0,8.0 etc con las versiones x10 y x100, pero finalmente he decidido no hacerlo...
                Si no hay suficiente presión para introducir una versión de 'mm' puedo hacerlo [con un poco de ajustar] - es fácil encontrar unidades del modelo y se puso a las pulgadas o 'mm'...]

                TIG

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                • PixeroP Offline
                  Pixero
                  last edited by

                  Millimeters please. I have no idea on how inches and fractions and multiples work. Using that would be purge guess work for me.

                  Heavy pressure here. 💚

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                  • TIGT Offline
                    TIG Moderator
                    last edited by

                    Here's v4.3 http://forums.sketchucation.com/viewtopic.php?p=185760#p185760

                    The 2D Line-Style Dialog now has Inch OR mm Widths displayed, depending on the Model's Units being Imperial or Metric. The Help htm files have also been updated to suit.

                    TIG

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                    • BepB Offline
                      Bep
                      last edited by

                      Damm Tig your fast!!!! 👍 👍 👍

                      Bep

                      "History is written by the winners"

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                      • juan974J Offline
                        juan974
                        last edited by

                        i try last version, for line weight i can t go under 1 mm because of the size of the screen, so i try whit the arrow key, same problem, i ll try on office tomorrow ...

                        juan974 (Réunion island)
                        website : http://sketchucation.com/click.php?url=http://www.tarn.us

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                        • juan974J Offline
                          juan974
                          last edited by

                          hello,
                          i can't go under 1 mm for line weight ...


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                          juan974 (Réunion island)
                          website : http://sketchucation.com/click.php?url=http://www.tarn.us

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                          • TIGT Offline
                            TIG Moderator
                            last edited by

                            Juan974

                            You can't make a line under 1mm wide because that's the minimum size in metric that's set in the script !
                            For imperial it's 0.05" == 1.27mm = even worse !!!

                            A line 1mm wide doesn't display very well at most expected 'scalings' of the view anyway - that's why there are no narrower options... why'd want a line that's so thin it's barely visible as it's often < 1 pixel ?

                            If you want thinner options then open and edit the 2DLineStyle.rb Ruby file in NotePad and find the two places where there a list of possible metric widths and add yours at the start - say 0.5... so
                            ["1|2|4|5|8|10|20...
                            becomes
                            ["0.5|1|2|4|5|8|10|20...
                            or whatever thinner line settings you want...
                            From there on in you'll have lines that are so thin you won't be able see them ! ☀

                            TIG

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                            • brookefoxB Offline
                              brookefox
                              last edited by

                              Since I haven't found a smarter way, I spent a long while tracing raster contours into a model and found the Z set and line tool to be good friends in that context.

                              Two items: 1. it would be nice to have a step-back, undo the last segment (only) that could be invoked without exiting the routine, and 2. that curious unwanted mini-segment that keeps inserting itself on occasion while drawing a series of connected 2d lines, perhaps that result of something I'm doing but such is not apparent.

                              ~ Brooke

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                              • TIGT Offline
                                TIG Moderator
                                last edited by

                                @brookefox said:

                                Since I haven't found a smarter way, I spent a long while tracing raster contours into a model and found the Z set and line tool to be good friends in that context.
                                Two items: 1. it would be nice to have a step-back, undo the last segment (only) that could be invoked without exiting the routine, and 2. that curious unwanted mini-segment that keeps inserting itself on occasion while drawing a series of connected 2d lines, perhaps that result of something I'm doing but such is not apparent.

                                No need for such manually intensive work?
                                A quick way to make one "contour line" is to make a very large flat rectangular face, much bigger than the terrain, and then group it.
                                Move it in the Z so it's at the right height for the contour - perhaps drawing some guide lines to help.
                                Now edit the face-group and select the face, right-click and choose 'Intersect with Model'.
                                The intersecting terrain will now make lines on the face.
                                You can edit the unneeded perimeter of the rectangle and any other faces.
                                Now you have a group containing the contour lines without having to draw any of it.
                                Explode the group to add the contour onto the terrain... BUT it might be best if it's kept separate...
                                It can be even easier - my ContourMaker.rb script does all of this automatically for you, making a set of contours at given heights above the Z=0... all collected inside one group: note that the terrain needs to be a group itself that is pre-selected, to do this...
                                I take it you are referring to the Freehand Tool in the glitch report - try the Line Tool [Polyline] instead...

                                TIG

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                                • brookefoxB Offline
                                  brookefox
                                  last edited by

                                  I'm not sure why you couldn't make those suggestions before I revealed my ignorance.., but thanks very much for them. I'm going to have to do some of that job over just for the joy of feeling the depth of it.

                                  Alas, I was going from an imported JPG with 2d contours and creating a 3d model (I need a vectorizer). I think your tips assumed I was wanting to generate 2d contours from a 3d model.

                                  @unknownuser said:

                                  I take it you are referring to the Freehand Tool in the glitch report - try the Line Tool [Polyline] instead...
                                  I was not clear here either: I was using the 2d line tool (which is the pline tool?) as I assumed the freehand would be more memory hungry, esp when the contours being created were 'sandboxed.'

                                  ~ Brooke

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                                  • I Offline
                                    IAGDint
                                    last edited by

                                    THANKS!
                                    Will try out this rb.

                                    Merry Christmas to all!

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                                    • R Offline
                                      rpaul
                                      last edited by

                                      I seem to be having a problem with the line style tool. If I draw 2d lines or a 2d circle and then try to apply a line style, I get some line artifacts that are part of the group. The style width was set to 5 in the attached jpg, but I get these artifacts with other settings as well. Any workaround to this issue? It is not a display issue as the extraneous line segments are real.2D_Lines.jpg

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                                      • M Offline
                                        madhav
                                        last edited by

                                        Thank you very much. Will be handy for quick details inside sketchup.

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                                        • TIGT Offline
                                          TIG Moderator
                                          last edited by

                                          @rpaul said:

                                          I seem to be having a problem with the line style tool. If I draw 2d lines or a 2d circle and then try to apply a line style, I get some line artifacts that are part of the group. The style width was set to 5 in the attached jpg, but I get these artifacts with other settings as well. Any workaround to this issue? It is not a display issue as the extraneous line segments are real.
                                          This is the first report of this. I cannot reproduce it. Please give details of your setup e.g. PC, Vista, version of SUp etc... If possible can you send me a problem skp [by PM] so I can see if it's reproducible and work out what to do to stop it...

                                          TIG

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                                          • A Offline
                                            amo
                                            last edited by

                                            I have made a hatch using the PATT_AR-BRSTD file. I named it PATT_AR-HRDWD, I modified the file in Photoshop and saved it. When I use it to hatch a face it looks to be compressed to the size of the PATT_AR-BRSTD. I have the new PATT_AR-HRDWD file attached. I would like to use this as a hatch since it is a wood floor hatch. Any help on why it is compressed in size when used in Sketchup would be greatly appreciated.


                                            PATT_AR-HRDWD.jpg

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