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    • pilouP Offline
      pilou
      last edited by

      @Jeff
      Of course yes, it's just the methodology πŸ˜‰
      In the real world you will be obliged to make all combinaisons first till find a solution and say this is the false object! πŸ˜‰
      Try it in the real world and you will see that i am right β˜€

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        remus
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        @unknownuser said:

        wait, you didn't mention what the finished puzzle should be.. do you mean start with the picture and move the stack to a different pole following your guidelines?

        Thats it, the aim is to move all the discs to another pole following the rules, so for 2 discs the solution would look like this:
        hanoi1.jpg
        hanoi2.jpg
        hanoi3.jpg
        hanoi4.jpg

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          Ecuadorian
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          @remus said:

          -a disc must always be placed on a larger disc.

          ...or directly on the base.

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            remus
            last edited by

            Updated πŸ˜„

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            • pilouP Offline
              pilou
              last edited by

              That is more interresting πŸ’š
              You can win 2 millions $ for make a "little" puzzle πŸ˜„
              But now make speedy answer : 31 12 2009 end first step of the game! ❗

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              • jeff hammondJ Offline
                jeff hammond
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                can i just answer 'it's going to take forever' ?
                that is a huge huge number that i don't really know how to write πŸ˜„

                i did find a method to obtain the answer though

                basically,
                2disc = 3 moves
                3disc = 7
                4disc = 15
                5disc = 31
                6disc = 63
                etc..

                following that sequence, 7discs = 127 then 8 = 255
                i'll try to get it better than that though.

                dotdotdot

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                  remus
                  last edited by

                  Good start jeff πŸ‘ Youve got what we in the business call a recursive solution i.e. you can find n+1 if you know n.

                  The general solution should be fairly easy to find from there.

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                    remus
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                    Your a factor of 100 out, you can make 10 moves a minute whereas i guess you took a move takes 10 minutes. Otherwise correct though πŸ‘

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                    • jeff hammondJ Offline
                      jeff hammond
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                      well, here's the answer i'm going to go with but this stuff is over my head.. i like the practical everyday logic puzzles much better πŸ˜„

                      184,467,440,737,095,516,150 minutes

                      [edit] hmm.. maybe that's 10 minutes too long? i guess you don't have to wait 10 minutes before making the very first move.

                      [edit2] oops agian.. i figured it as if you make one move every 10 minutes instead of 10 per minute..
                      so maybe it's more like
                      1,844,674,407,370,955,161 minutes...and 30seconds

                      dotdotdot

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                      • jeff hammondJ Offline
                        jeff hammond
                        last edited by

                        @remus said:

                        Your a factor of 100 out, you can make 10 moves a minute whereas i guess you took a move takes 10 minutes. Otherwise correct though πŸ‘

                        right.. i update my post as you were posting yours.

                        ok, i'm gonna go eat ice cream now πŸ˜„

                        dotdotdot

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                          remus
                          last edited by

                          Very sensible πŸ‘

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                            Daniel
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                            204 minutes

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                              remus
                              last edited by

                              howd you get that?

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                              • pilouP Offline
                                pilou
                                last edited by

                                is it not the famous HanoΓ― tower? πŸ˜‰

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                                • jeff hammondJ Offline
                                  jeff hammond
                                  last edited by

                                  fwiw, the way i figured it out was by physically doing the puzzle in sketchup with 2,3,4 & 5 discs then looking for a pattern..

                                  my results were
                                  3
                                  7
                                  15
                                  31

                                  which i realized was the same a 4,8,16,32,64,etc minus 1..
                                  then i had to find a big enough calculator to figure out the rest..

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                                  i'm sure there's a way to do this using formulas but i'm more of a hands on type πŸ˜‰

                                  similar math is applied to this question:

                                  would you rather I give you $5000 right now -or- give you a penny right now, 2 pennies tomorrow, 4 pennies the next day etc.. for an entire month?

                                  dotdotdot

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                                    Ecuadorian
                                    last edited by

                                    Only Bill Gates and a few other chaps have enough spare change to pay the amount you would owe me, Jeff ($10,737,418.23), so I prefer you give me the $5,000 today.

                                    EDIT: I mistook pennies for dollars and 5000 for 500, so I updated my post.

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                                      remus
                                      last edited by

                                      Pilou, it is indeed the towers of hanoi problem.

                                      In a similar vein there is the wheat and chessboard story: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wheat_and_chessboard_problem

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                                        jeff hammond
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                                        @ecuadorian said:

                                        Only Bill Gates and a few other chaps have enough spare change to pay the amount you would owe me, Jeff ($10,737,418.23), so I prefer you give me the $5,000 today.

                                        EDIT: I mistook pennies for dollars and 5000 for 500, so I updated my post.

                                        haha, okay Miguel.. the check is in the mail!

                                        dotdotdot

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                                          pbacot
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                                          @remus said:

                                          Well done people, its not a trick question: 2 is the correct answer as ecuadorian said (and the scales are the 1st type you posted jeff.)

                                          edit: doh, put 3 instead of 2. Corrected.

                                          Wait, thought it was 2.

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                                          • jeff hammondJ Offline
                                            jeff hammond
                                            last edited by

                                            @pbacot said:

                                            @remus said:

                                            Well done people, its not a trick question: 2 is the correct answer as ecuadorian said (and the scales are the 1st type you posted jeff.)

                                            edit: doh, put 3 instead of 2. Corrected.

                                            Wait, thought it was 2.

                                            it is two. he put three at first then corrected it to two.

                                            dotdotdot

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