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    • FrederikF Offline
      Frederik
      last edited by

      @kwistenbiebel said:

      What is the difference with Thea Render and Kerkythea in terms of quality and speed?

      Not sure why you bring this question up here... ๐Ÿ˜•
      This is an announcement about a new render application - Twilight render - which is as powerful as Kerkythea, but much easier since it works directly inside SU... ๐Ÿ˜‰

      However, to answer your question, you can't compare Thea and Kerkythea...
      Although the man behind the code is the same, Thea is build from scratch and has far more power than KT...
      Take a look at the Thea website and see some of the technical preview renders... ๐Ÿ˜‰

      Cheers
      Kim Frederik

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      • daleD Offline
        dale
        last edited by

        Sadly, appears to be windows only?

        Just monkeying around....like Monsanto

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        • K Offline
          kwistenbiebel
          last edited by

          Hi Frederick,
          I am genuinely interested to know about Twilight.
          It is not because this is a product announcement, we can't ask questions about it...or is it?

          I just want to know if Twilight is fully KT driven or if it runs and altered version.

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            Eulgrand
            last edited by

            Given Twilight is using the same render engine as KT, I think the result in terms of speed should be quite close, except that you can't close SU while rendering, which reduces available resource.
            Below is a quickie, rendered with Path Tracing - Progressive / 60 passes / 30 minutes.
            The big time saving will be in the workflow.


            quickieTwilight.jpg

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              notareal
              last edited by

              @kwistenbiebel said:

              What is the difference with Thea Render and Kerkythea in terms of quality and speed?

              This is a bit off topic. There is no such comparison available yet as Thea Render code is not optimised, but you should expect improvements in both fields. I would expect speed comparisons when public beta is launched. About quality, there are some renders at thearender.com so you might judge your self. Although those are mainly technical renders... but you should get a impression.

              But if you did mean Twilight ws KT, those should be quite similar... but it's much up to engine version and used settings. Twilight is just much much more streamlined.

              but more important...
              Congratulations of the release!

              Welcome to try [Thea Render](http://www.thearender.com/), Thea support | [kerkythea.net](http://www.kerkythea.net/) -team member

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                kwistenbiebel
                last edited by

                @notareal said:

                ...But if you did mean Twilight ws KT, those should be quite similar... but it's much up to engine version and used settings. Twilight is just much much more streamlined.
                re important...

                Yes, that's what I meant. Thanks for explaining.
                I'll be sure to try it out.

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                  avariant
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                  @chris fullmer said:

                  I'm just hoping that at some point I find the "register" button on their forums...

                  Registration is done on the front page of the website, http://www.TwilightRender.com. There should be a 'Create Account' link on the lower left side. The forum is tied into the website, so one registration works for both.

                  @dale said:

                  Sadly, appears to be windows only?

                  For now it's windows only, but we do hope to put out a Mac version as soon as possible.

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                    hobbnob
                    last edited by

                    ๐Ÿ˜ž its such a shame about the price, i doubt any sp users will even bother with the trial version because of this. anyways, i have bothered to do as such, and there is no way of recording animations. can anyone help or is this just another app with false claims?

                    My WIP Thread:Here

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                    • FrederikF Offline
                      Frederik
                      last edited by

                      @hobbnob said:

                      ๐Ÿ˜ž its such a shame about the price, i doubt any sp users will even bother with the trial version because of this.

                      I'm really not sure what you mean... ๐Ÿ˜•
                      Do you feel that 59,00 USD is expensive for such a powerfull build-in render application...??
                      Look at the alternatives... They're much more expensive and haven't got a fraction of the features Twilight Render has... ๐Ÿ˜‰

                      @hobbnob said:

                      anyways, i have bothered to do as such, and there is no way of recording animations. can anyone help or is this just another app with false claims?

                      I assume that you are doing something wrong, cause this is definitely not a false claim...!!
                      Checkout the SketchyPhysics animation: Blugarero thread at the Twilight forum and you'll see... ๐Ÿ˜‰
                      Or check out the animation thread...

                      You have the option to make:
                      Fly through rendered animations
                      Scenes where only the sun/sky is animated
                      AND (as the only render application I know of)
                      Animations using Animated objects (SkethcyPhysics)

                      Please don't try to spread such false claims, without checking things first... ๐Ÿ˜„


                      TW-anim.jpg

                      Cheers
                      Kim Frederik

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                      • PixeroP Offline
                        Pixero
                        last edited by

                        After a quick test I couldnt find where to make settings like anti alias quality and such? (Shadows were a bit grainy.)

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                          notareal
                          last edited by

                          @pixero said:

                          After a quick test I couldnt find where to make settings like anti alias quality and such? (Shadows were a bit grainy.)

                          I think there is no direct setting for AA and such, but presets are just xml files. Reasonable easy to tune, if needed.

                          Welcome to try [Thea Render](http://www.thearender.com/), Thea support | [kerkythea.net](http://www.kerkythea.net/) -team member

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                            Howard leslie
                            last edited by

                            After a quick test - A few observations / questions....

                            1. Pages (Scenes) with Sections - did not appear to render as expected (Section Cut Disappeared in Rendered Version, Model was whole again - no section cut displayed).
                            2. On a large model, a couple of Layers that I thought I'd turned off in the Scene had reappeared again on the Rendered Version - anyone else notice this or was it just me ???
                              .............
                              Didn't notice it but is it possible to batch the renders ???
                              ie queue up a whole load of models / scenes and then run them overnight for example ???
                            • Maybe dump them out to Windows Task Scheduler ???

                            (I did see the option to run a single render in the background while carrying on modelling in SU).
                            .............
                            Seems quite promising though.
                            Congratulations to everyone who has been involved with producing Twilight on getting this far.

                            Regards
                            Howard L'

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                              Fletch
                              last edited by

                              hi hobbnob,
                              you will find all info you need on rendering your SketchyPhysics animations on Pages 14-15 of the user manual... and in this thread.

                              please come join us at the Twilight forum for questions on how things work, we are happy to help. ๐Ÿ˜‰
                              I do believe there will be many SP (SketchyPhysics) users who would LOVE to render their awesome work with this great plugin. This is why we worked so hard to make it possible.

                              hint: use the "animation" presets when rendering SP animations... and be sure you've followed the manual's advice for animations.

                              Please see this demo video or this demo vid... no false claims ๐Ÿ˜‰

                              Fletch
                              Twilight Render Cross-platform Plugin for SketchUp on PC or Mac

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                                Fletch
                                last edited by

                                @unknownuser said:

                                After a quick test - A few observations / questions....

                                1. Pages (Scenes) with Sections - ...
                                2. On a large model, a couple of Layers that I thought I'd turned off ...
                                  ...batch the renders ???
                                  ...Seems quite promising...Congratulations to everyone who has been involved with producing Twilight

                                Hi Howard,
                                1- SketchUp's unique ability to show a section cut does not translate to any render engine I am aware of yet... ๐Ÿ˜•
                                This issue is discussed in the user manual on page 11 topic 1, but in short, you will need to use Whaat's Zorro2 plugin to create your section and then render it with Twilight.

                                2- Please join us at the Twilight Community to ask troubleshooting probs. This is the SketchUcation forum, and I would like to respect that. But you can please send me the file at SFletcher-at-twilightrender dot com

                                3 - Batch Render works well in Twilight, via the animation panel, see the Reference Section of the Manual called "Batch Render".

                                Thanks!

                                Fletch
                                Twilight Render Cross-platform Plugin for SketchUp on PC or Mac

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                                  Fletch
                                  last edited by

                                  @pixero said:

                                  After a quick test I couldnt find where to make settings like anti alias quality and such? (Shadows were a bit grainy.)

                                  re:AA quality, the simple answer is to simply choose the "next step up" in render quality from the "Easy" settings.

                                  The long answer is here. ๐Ÿ˜‰

                                  Please feel free to ask questions like this in the Twilight Forum. I am known for being quite helpful and easy to work with ๐Ÿ˜‰ But I also realize one tends to avoid joining "yet another forum" at first... but when you're ready, you can join here. ๐Ÿ˜„

                                  Fletch
                                  Twilight Render Cross-platform Plugin for SketchUp on PC or Mac

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                                  • EarthMoverE Offline
                                    EarthMover
                                    last edited by

                                    A test render from a recent design. I really like the UI. I think it's simple, but allows you to go deeper if you'd like. I noticed no support for transparent .tif images, but .png will render fine. I also really like the ability to choose certain items in sketchup and render them as an alpha for post processing. A render region option would be nice, but I don't see it anywhere.

                                    Kim and Fletch, you guys will be getting my $59 tonight and I'll pass the word along to my sketchup using friends who don't frequent SCF. I wish you much success with the project.

                                    Also, just curious.....what will the price be after the special introductory price is done?


                                    Twilight test2.jpg

                                    3D Artist at Clearstory 3D Imaging
                                    Guide Tool at Winning With Sketchup
                                    Content Creator at Skapeup

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                                    • P Offline
                                      Pg09
                                      last edited by

                                      Hey Fletch, Frederik!

                                      Long time no see! I was surprised to see another project beside KT and Thea but i will def check it out.
                                      You guys are not involved in Thea development?

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                                      • X Offline
                                        xrok1
                                        last edited by

                                        AWSOME! i specially like the material templates.
                                        a god send for the materially challenged like me ๐Ÿ˜•
                                        ๐Ÿ‘ ๐Ÿ‘ ๐Ÿ‘

                                        โ€œThere are three classes of people: those who see. Those who see when they are shown. Those who do not see.โ€

                                        http://www.Twilightrender.com try it!

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                                        • david_hD Offline
                                          david_h
                                          last edited by

                                          Um . . .how do we know this isn't just Podium 2 in disguise?

                                          If I make it look easy...It is probably easy

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                                          • soloS Offline
                                            solo
                                            last edited by

                                            @unknownuser said:

                                            Um . . .how do we know this isn't just Podium 2 in disguise?

                                            You would have seen Sepo posting his thumbs up. ๐Ÿ˜„

                                            http://www.solos-art.com

                                            If you see a toilet in your dreams do not use it.

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