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    • GaieusG Offline
      Gaieus
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      I'll also test it out in Kerky and IDX Renditioner and such - it'd be good to safely know when and how it can be used.

      As for more "puzzles" - well, there might be others as well (and I also like taking part in others' puzzles) so everybody feel encouraged! After all, this is not ONLY a help forum! 😄

      Gai...

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        Ecuadorian
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        sigh....
        For a minute I thought SketchUp had finally evolved into Super-ArchiCAD.

        (And I left a dumb comment in the Youtube video 😳 )

        -Miguel Lescano
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        • GaieusG Offline
          Gaieus
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          Never mind - I'd sell them if I could, believe me! 😄

          Gai...

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          • thomthomT Offline
            thomthom
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            This is how it renders in V-Ray straight from the box. Same as you get in SU.

            I wonder if I can make a plugin which can iterate over the windows and find there they intersect on the other wall face and insert an cut-through opening in the correct place. And also link the extra opening to the proper window component so if you mode or scale it, it will sync automatically. That would be a solution which would minimize the amount of work.


            vray.png

            Thomas Thomassen — SketchUp Monkey & Coding addict
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              xrok1
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              so, it was a riddle after all. 😎

              “There are three classes of people: those who see. Those who see when they are shown. Those who do not see.”

              http://www.Twilightrender.com try it!

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              • broomstickB Offline
                broomstick
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                @ecuadorian said:

                sigh....
                For a minute I thought SketchUp had finally evolved into Super-ArchiCAD.

                (And I left a dumb comment in the Youtube video 😳 )

                Me too, me too..

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                • GaieusG Offline
                  Gaieus
                  last edited by

                  @xrok1 said:

                  so, it was a riddle after all. 😎

                  Okay, if you meant "riddle" like that, it was. 😄
                  Yet it's straight SU modelling as "workarounds" in SU are considered "normal strategy"

                  Gai...

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                  • thomthomT Offline
                    thomthom
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                    I'm getting pretty close to generating a cutout component on parallel faces to cutout components. Got to find a good way to manage and keep track of them.

                    Though, this Solid Front Face - Transparent Backface method can prove it self quite useful for presentations where you want some kind of X-Ray effect at times.

                    Thomas Thomassen — SketchUp Monkey & Coding addict
                    List of my plugins and link to the CookieWare fund

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                    • GaieusG Offline
                      Gaieus
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                      @thomthom said:

                      Though, this Solid Front Face - Transparent Backface method can prove it self quite useful for presentations

                      True, just imagine a case when you quickly need to change different openings to present ideas to a client. If you are careful enough, they will never realise that these windows don't actually cut that inside face.

                      Gai...

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                        thomthom
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                        Not only that, but you can fake section cuts in custom shapes... 😉

                        Thomas Thomassen — SketchUp Monkey & Coding addict
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                          sepo
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                          Nice one Gaieus. It renders OK in Podium as well.

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                          • GaieusG Offline
                            Gaieus
                            last edited by

                            Thanks Sid.

                            I don't think it's very original (i.e. I am sure that only reinvented the wheel). It's obvious that there is no "real" solution for double cutting components so for different purposes we can use different workarounds (or their combinations).

                            Gai...

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                              NewOne
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                              Is there a possibility to identify where edges of a component intersect with faces of other component? Because if it is, then on that face can be added vertexes inside the component on intersection coordinates, then add lines. Finally delete the inner created face. In this way, the component cuts trough how many faces it intersects.


                              2009-03-15_234230.jpg

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                                sepo
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                                Gaieus

                                Still very good workarround if you are still designing. Saves a lot of time. 👍

                                Thomthom
                                "I'm getting pretty close to generating a cutout component on parallel faces to cutout components. Got to find a good way to manage and keep track of them."
                                That sounds like very good news.

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                                  thomthom
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                                  @sepo said:

                                  Thomthom
                                  "I'm getting pretty close to generating a cutout component on parallel faces to cutout components. Got to find a good way to manage and keep track of them."
                                  That sounds like very good news.

                                  Generating the opposite cutouts where easy. Trying to keep track of them all and ensure that all new components placed also cuts double is more work.

                                  Thomas Thomassen — SketchUp Monkey & Coding addict
                                  List of my plugins and link to the CookieWare fund

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                                    sceyefeye
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                                    you guys are giving me a headache just thinking about this

                                    could have sworn that Renderplus or one of those tools had a multi-line wall, just trying to think where I imagined I saw it

                                    what amazes me is that google haven't co-opted a lot of these scripts as "standard" functionality. I sometimes wonder if there is a reluctance to make google too powerful (I know the idea of sketchup is to be simple) but everywhere I turn people are not using it for "simple"

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                                      Gaieus
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                                      @sceyefeye said:

                                      ...I sometimes wonder if there is a reluctance to make google too powerful (I know the idea of sketchup is to be simple) but everywhere I turn people are not using it for "simple"

                                      I wouldn't necessarily like Google to adopt many things. Plugins are for that. The reason is that SU is used by so many people for so many purposes that all these functions cannot be adapted.

                                      So currently some use this plugin while others use that plugin. This is much better this way IMO. Google should be focussing on improving the core product (as several of the members here keep expressing it) and AFAIK in SU 7 it was already essentially improved since plugins can work MUCH faster now than before.

                                      Gai...

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                                        Ecuadorian
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                                        Google SketchUp's development team seem to follow the KISS Principle:
                                        http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/KISS_principle

                                        -Miguel Lescano
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                                          thomthom
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                                          I do like the plugin method of making applications. Look at Firefox. It's the plugin that makes it. That people can adapt it to fit as they like. But it sure would be nice if there where more things exposed in the SU API. For SU8 I'd be satisfied if it was purely a stability and bugfix release for the core engine but with more things exposed to the API. Improving it as a platform, not as application.

                                          Thomas Thomassen — SketchUp Monkey & Coding addict
                                          List of my plugins and link to the CookieWare fund

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                                            wmanning
                                            last edited by

                                            Gai, the double-cut can be done with a single dynamic component. This hole in the wall came from Scott Lininger... It isn't a "proper" window, but is designed to apply a hole in the center of the wall segment. You can scale the wall thicker, thinner, wider, taller and it always cuts properly! It's a good example for a nested dynamic component. (Rendered with IDX Renditioner.)

                                            William


                                            Hole2.jpg


                                            Hole2.skp

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