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    • david_hD Offline
      david_h
      last edited by

      That begs the larger question. Why would you want to make a single line a component? ๐Ÿ’š

      If I make it look easy...It is probably easy

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      • GaieusG Offline
        Gaieus
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        How about creating only "dummy" or "proxy" components?

        The problem dosn't necessarily lie only here. The same goes with groups (only that there are only two ways of making them) and nowadays with SU autobreaking overlapping lines, you may wish to separate even single lines, too.

        Also, any selection that only contains a single entity (not only a line) cannot be made a component (or group) this way. If you select a sphere (with a bounding box), there's a single "surface" selected only and you right click to turn it into a group/component in vain.

        BUT if you select the sphere by triple clicking on it,it will autoselect and highlight the softened edges bounding the facets as well and there you go; you are now able to make a group/component. Note that the resulting group/component will be the same in either way you select them.

        Gai...

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        • david_hD Offline
          david_h
          last edited by

          proxies occured to me right after I posted this so . . .I stand corrected sir. ๐Ÿ˜ณ

          another D"UH moment for me.

          If I make it look easy...It is probably easy

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          • N Offline
            NewOne
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            @unknownuser said:

            That begs the larger question. Why would you want to make a single line a component? ๐Ÿ’š

            I will answer you to this the best I can:
            Let's say I want to render some big repetitive scene (50000 dummy dolls, let-s say). Sketchup doesn't support so many polygons. So I will make some 2d representation of them and the high-quality component will be replaced when exporting for render (i use maxwellrender and it supports proxy_objects) ... but SketchUp is still unresponsive ๐Ÿ˜• So what I choose? LINES !! YES ๐Ÿ˜„ if 50000 2d people are too many, 50000 lines are ok. And all that lines must be instances of the same component.
            So... that's why you would make a line component.

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            • pilouP Offline
              pilou
              last edited by

              @unknownuser said:

              Now with a single line entity, only this latter (#4) doesn't work - all the three above (#1-3) do.

              I only use the right click ๐Ÿ˜‰
              That is the real big Duhduh of my day ๐Ÿ˜†

              Frenchy Pilou
              Is beautiful that please without concept!
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              • thomthomT Offline
                thomthom
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                @unknownuser said:

                @unknownuser said:

                Now with a single line entity, only this latter (#4) doesn't work - all the three above (#1-3) do.

                I only use the right click ๐Ÿ˜‰
                That is the real big Duhduh of my day ๐Ÿ˜†

                Ditto Duh! Never occurred to me the behaviour would be inconsistent depending on where in the UI you looked.

                Thomas Thomassen โ€” SketchUp Monkey & Coding addict
                List of my plugins and link to the CookieWare fund

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                • GaieusG Offline
                  Gaieus
                  last edited by

                  Well, gentlemen, this is the grand "Duh" topic!
                  We are all "duh'hing" ๐Ÿคฃ

                  Gai...

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                  • thomthomT Offline
                    thomthom
                    last edited by

                    I believe this is one of the most useful threads on this forum.

                    Thomas Thomassen โ€” SketchUp Monkey & Coding addict
                    List of my plugins and link to the CookieWare fund

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                    • AnssiA Offline
                      Anssi
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                      My biggest "Duh" was looking at a roof tutorial made by Alan Fraser back in v. 3. days, featuring very clever uses of inferencing. Even Jim Holman from the then @Last admitted he didn't know inferencing could be used like that.

                      Anssi

                      securi adversus homines, securi adversus deos rem difficillimam adsecuti sunt, ut illis ne voto quidem opus esset

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                      • E Offline
                        Ecuadorian
                        last edited by

                        Any link to that tutorial? I still have lots of trouble with roofs... I often "cheat" using TIG's roof script, but sometimes you have to do it yourself.

                        -Miguel Lescano
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                        • daleD Offline
                          dale
                          last edited by

                          This isn't the tutorial mentioned above, but it's worth the watch. From Adain Chopra, SketchUp team, and author of SketchUp for Dummies.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A6WxE6oO3JU

                          Just monkeying around....like Monsanto

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                            Ecuadorian
                            last edited by

                            Just had another big "Duh!" moment... I'm working on a house development and I couldn't understand why I had to correct both the left and the right sides of the main walkway several times... Until I realized they were mirrored instances... ๐Ÿ˜ณ

                            -Miguel Lescano
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                            • M Offline
                              museummaker
                              last edited by

                              I just leaned this yesterday and I am kicking myself.

                              When selecting object I normally went with a box from upper right to lower left drawing a box around things.

                              Worked fine for months or years.

                              Try a sweep left to right going over the objects. It has a totally different feel and works like a charm, feels to me at least like it saves a lot of movement. I use a tablet, not sure if has quite the feel with a mouse but it works, try it if you haven't.

                              This thread is great, and so are all you good people on the forum. I learn something everyday I look here.

                              Thank you for all,

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                              • B Offline
                                BTM
                                last edited by

                                Some of my first "d'uh" moments when learning about the middle button thing: when using the middle button, hold SHIFT to pan, or hold OPTION to allow the camera to tilt.

                                also a "d'uh" moment from long ago: holding OPTION when moving an object, push/pulling an object, or rotating an object, to duplicate it.

                                note: these are for mac. Buttons might be different on windows.

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                                  BTM
                                  last edited by

                                  @unknownuser said:

                                  I just leaned this yesterday and I am kicking myself.

                                  When selecting object I normally went with a box from upper right to lower left drawing a box around things.

                                  Worked fine for months or years.

                                  Try a sweep left to right going over the objects. It has a totally different feel and works like a charm, feels to me at least like it saves a lot of movement. I use a tablet, not sure if has quite the feel with a mouse but it works, try it if you haven't.

                                  This thread is great, and so are all you good people on the forum. I learn something everyday I look here.

                                  Thank you for all,

                                  Right to left selects anything in or touching the selection box, left to right only selects things in the selection box. Is that what you meant? Because it works the opposite way you described for me. Right to left is useful for cleaning up lines after an intersection I find.

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                                  • T Offline
                                    Teezer
                                    last edited by

                                    I found out today that the rotate tool does the same thing that the move tool does when you hit the Ctrl key. It puts a plus sign next to the cursor and copies the rotated object, leaving the original in place.

                                    Not that I have an immediate use for this -- I just hit it by accident, and there it was... ๐Ÿ˜†

                                    Real life is just another website, albeit a rather boring one.

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                                    • B Offline
                                      BTM
                                      last edited by

                                      @teezer said:

                                      I found out today that the rotate tool does the same thing that the move tool does when you hit the Ctrl key. It puts a plus sign next to the cursor and copies the rotated object, leaving the original in place.

                                      Not that I have an immediate use for this -- I just hit it by accident, and there it was... ๐Ÿ˜†

                                      @unknownuser said:

                                      also a "d'uh" moment from long ago: holding OPTION when moving an object, push/pulling an object, or rotating an object, to duplicate it.

                                      note: these are for mac. Buttons might be different on windows.

                                      I've had plenty of uses for it, my current WIP is 4-way symmetrical, and that makes it easier to place everything in the same place in all directions.

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                                      • david_hD Offline
                                        david_h
                                        last edited by

                                        Try it for Polar Arrays . . .it's loads of fun! But. . .Im sure you knew that! ๐Ÿ’š


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                                        If I make it look easy...It is probably easy

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                                        • B Offline
                                          BTM
                                          last edited by

                                          A new "D'uh" for me: holding shift while using the smoove tool: smooves from normals.
                                          wow....jpg

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                                          • thomthomT Offline
                                            thomthom
                                            last edited by

                                            @unknownuser said:

                                            A new "D'uh" for me: holding shift while using the smoove tool: smooves from normals.

                                            What??? Duh!!!

                                            Thomas Thomassen โ€” SketchUp Monkey & Coding addict
                                            List of my plugins and link to the CookieWare fund

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